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Post by abdunnur on Aug 14, 2017 20:25:09 GMT
Love is powerful upon the soul; the deepest hate cannot be likened to its passion. Love can lift a soul to altitudes of experience never dreamt of; or love can drive a soul into despair so deep no light can penetrate. Love's grief can provoke a soul to abandon life, to sacrifice all and everything they are, upon that altar.
The soul when complete is the expression of love, when incomplete expresses only parts of the emotional spectrum, and suffering is either suffered or inflicted.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 14, 2017 21:01:32 GMT
Love is construction. Hate is destruction (deconstruction).
Love is positive. Hate is negative.
But then again, standing above emotions overall is better than either of them. Construction should be because it is the only developmental way. One should be doing everything in their lives according to logic. Logic is the key and should stand above emotions and emotions are driven by the instinct. (Human) Emotions are not necessarily evil, but they cause a person to behave like a weak being. On the other than, one may care for others without involving emotions. Care for the surrounding world has nothing to do with emotionality. The sound and healthy being does work for the betterment of everything in intelligent ways. The logical person who yet cares deeply for others can be the warmest of persons despite that their unemotional presence may deceive.
Excuse me if I was ruining your thread.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by cerulean on Aug 15, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
Are you refering to Love as in Rumi's Love ? i.e the love of nothing and therefore the love of everything, the love of All, it's equivalent to being One with God. The other love is the love of people and things and is temporary, an illusion.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 4:59:33 GMT
So emotion which is the very substance of the soul in your opionion is evil and should be removed Immanuel, what would be left if you have no emotion?
An empty shell of psychopathic indifference and contempt
A non-entity of soullessness, existing only perceptually, as substance would no longer exist?
Where did you get the idea emotion is evil and should be stripped away, what are you besides emotion Immanuel?
Emotion is the substance reason the shepherd. Take truth without emotion truth would be of no value, it would be psychopathic truth, known as lies to an empath. Empathic love is without attachment, and always attained upon an unyielding love of truth. You must become ‘soðsagu’, which is the act, the very essence of speaking the truth.
The consciousness or soul is a powerful emotional force, it can chain itself, cage itself, torture itself, it can plunge into the very depths of depravity, perversion, and misery, or it can take you to the highest love, ecstasy and joy, it’s such a great power that you must learn to use it. It’s such a great power it takes total commitment to learn wisdom and equity in its expression. The soul is infinite in so many ways, the beauty of the soul, is in its song, your soul refuses to expand into the infinity of love and thought when stagnant, to nourish the thoughts and experiences of creation; to deny emotion is to deny the magnificence and beauty of your soul, so belittle and dishonour itself, it is a tragedy without comparison, this tragedy is compounded because all souls are connected in a fluid ocean of consciousness that springs eternal, our energy of thought flows through, between and within all souls; to deny emotion is to deny yourself the song that would make you dance within a state of ‘rasasvada’, the condition of bliss in the absence of all thoughts, the quiet minds harmony.
Love is not limited or divided it applies in shared perceptual reality and within the inner mind, love of nothing and of everything is the same as everything is built of nothing.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 5:20:05 GMT
Love is pure emotion, just as white light is the unification of all the spectrum, love is the unification of all emotion. For example if we look at egotism, the habit of valuing everything only in reference to one's personal interest, this denies love therefore to vanquish egotism is an excellent goal, not the suppression of emotional expression. There is power in self-sacrifice, it’s a prevailing expression of love, it’s a willingness to give something or everything you have in exchange for another soul, by setting other souls before yourself you lift your own soul in an act of true unity. It’s the willingness to risk the loss of the world (whirled) for the love of other souls.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 5:26:13 GMT
There is only one soul, one consciousness, one life, that one is infinite in expression, yet is one totality, that one totality is fractured infinitely, and each fracture is again and again infinitely fractured. Yet there is only one totality. Love is the glue that holds those fractures together. It is the light of consciousness.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 7:32:14 GMT
Please read a dictionary concerning emotion. Consciousness (the soul) is not equal to emotion. Emotions are received by the soul from the body and it is when you are listening to feelings. Expressed emotions are when you decide to listen to the body.
And the wise person is drawing a distinction between their consciousness (the spirit/soul) and body/flesh.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by cerulean on Aug 16, 2017 8:58:00 GMT
abdunnurConsciousness is the point of stability of each person, it's the inner peace, it's the wise and the incorruptible. Emotions are so instable.. People follow their emotions. Very few listen to their consciousness.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 9:07:21 GMT
I don't know what you are talking about, all is consciousness Immanuel, the body is simply a perceptual form of consciousness, we are a single consciousness as we share the same perception of reality, you seem to think in a very confused way, that the body is somehow relevant, the mind exists in perception, death for example is simple perceptual reality altered, what do you think the soul is, you are the soul, the consciousness is the soul, it is in dichotomy, 99.999% emotion and the remainder reasoning, reasoning is a skill that almost no one takes any time to master and so life after life they squander themselves, even degenerating in to religious minded zombies with zero hope of achieving anything beyond stagnation.
You have a hatred of emotion it seems, when in every state of consciousness you are in some form of emotional tension, that emotional tension is determined through the beliefs and reasoning skills of the soul, this is why the same situation results in a variety of out comes depending upon who is involved, every soul shpherds their emotions with the beliefs they have been indoctrinated with or beliefs they have established through reasoning.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 9:15:41 GMT
The journey is to master the self.
The mask of religion feigns morality, virtue and equity, through the fictions of religion the pious extort, deceive, manipulate and confuse, masked in their pious performance they are the most usurious, because they will not only steal all you will surrender in life for the loan of their wily wisdom, but through the loan of such wisdom inhibit all efforts to master either reason or emotion, and in so doing, take all hope of fulfilling any purpose, or gain any benefits, when the perception of life transcends.
Breaking the chain of inherited suffering is not easy, because if the pain has always been in your life, how could you recognise its existence as anything but a natural state. An angry mind would need to overcome their anger with sympathy; a contemptuous mind with compassion, a cruel and unpleasant mind with kindness. Greeting grimaces with smiles, and anger with calm, is an expression of emotional mastery. Forgive and forget about finding fault to punish or seek vengeance, instead establish relief. Love is the only weapon a soul should use pre-emptively.
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Post by cerulean on Aug 16, 2017 9:44:15 GMT
Throwing water on fire is something very obvious. But to be able to see and think freely one will have to separate him/herself from those emotions, in order to not become bias, corrupted, weak, vulnerable.
Consciousness. It will then make you do the right thing in a harmonic way, facing anger with calm, forgiving, and all that you said.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 10:10:25 GMT
You cannot seperate yourself from emotion, you can only express a different emotion to one that would be destructive, negative or unhelpful, for example a psychopath is dichotomically the opposite of an empath they are 99.999% free of emotion, and so to murder, steal, lie for a psychopath is nothing at all, this is the reason in war the great heroes who are the best murderers are always psychopaths.
You as an empath are perpetually expressing an emotional state, you cannot remove your nature, you are emotional, to remove that would remove the soul and make you a psychopath, how could that be desireable?
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 16:24:46 GMT
You should know what I am talking about if you involve logic.
The body is its own organism separate from the mind or your consciousness so to say. You are in control of the body, to a varying degree however depending on your level of independent thought, an independence from bodily influence.
For example, if you let yourself be angry, this is usually not entirely your decision to become angry but your body's pressure on the mind is too intense. Your mind is not necessarily weak enough to become angry if the being of the soul has become ripe enough to withstand emotional pressure from the body. But emotions are not stemming from the mind and the nature of the spirit of the soul is emotionless. The more integrated with the body you are, i.e how unseparated of the spirit and body, the less resistance you have towards the phenomenon, it is a kind of bodily assimilation. For those of us who have realized a remedy to the situation know that a distance to the body will help the soul grow.
This is not hatred towards anything, but awareness of something which is not truly from your self (your soul). The soul is a distinct entity compared to the body, but the soul is bound to it in a way which may confuse people into accepting it as an integral part of who they are. But this binding is only temporary and the same body will never be used again.
Your belief may be that emotions or instincts is a natural part of who you are even including your soul and then I understand your resistance to what is being taught here, since "we" see that the soul is an entirely different phenomenon compared to the primate body, Homo sapiens. In it all, we consider the body to be an "innocent" biologically engineered and slightly enhanced species of primate with a forced-attributed superior soul seed. Without the consciousness of the soul, this primate would be far less sophisticated than than it is. Without intending to be derogatory towards undeveloped souls, people who are in a lesser developed stage, are acting mostly according to the species' instinct. Those who built up the spirit of their soul have a growing consciousness and this superiority will eventually express itself in many ways. To most efficiently grow the spirit, one should literally "refrain from being an animal in thinking and deed".
This is in contradiction to many people who live out their lives thinking this is "only natural" and this is an intelligence test and the reality is that getting involved in activities which trespass even slightly on each commandment which was given to Moses (Musa) means hampering development of the own soul.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 16:52:39 GMT
You cannot seperate yourself from emotion, you can only express a different emotion to one that would be destructive, negative or unhelpful, for example a psychopath is dichotomically the opposite of an empath they are 99.999% free of emotion, and so to murder, steal, lie for a psychopath is nothing at all, this is the reason in war the great heroes who are the best murderers are always psychopaths. You as an empath are perpetually expressing an emotional state, you cannot remove your nature, you are emotional, to remove that would remove the soul and make you a psychopath, how could that be desireable? Emotions are generated by how the body is reacting to various stimuli based on your control over it and just as an animal pet you can train it to be more resilient to stress parameters. You can control the animal's instinctive pattern by exercising a strong command over it. Therefore it is important to be aware of the fact that mind and body are two different factors in one. Many people may think they must resist something, e.g. a certain sugary food, but the instinctive emotion is so strong that the mental defense fails to hinder them from eating it and so they eat while they should not and they still know it is wrong but they do it anyway because of the pleasure effect, a bodily reinforcement. An animal, e.g. a dog would do the same, they would take of a sugary food and eat and eat until their body signals they are not hungry or they feel ill, and this will repeat itself every time those sweets are offered again until the dog has become fat and unhealthy. The dog has no defense against the engrossing, but a human may have and this is thanks to their mind and mental strength. The human has something which the dog has not. Emotions are instinctive feelings that you receive in your window towards the Earth including your senses which are like sensors. The thoughts of your mind are then intercepted and interfered by the animal body's primitive desires (instincts) and this is what is Satan in sectarian religions. Those of whom you speak, psychopaths, are degenerate souls which have had too much of what the instinct is offering and they are what the species is fundamentally. Read this list which I echo on a very regular basis of what the human is without the soul. Desire for: 1. Hierarchy 2. Materialism 3. Vanity 4. Obsession 5. Self-preservation of kin 6. Domination 7. Greed 8. Promiscuity 9. Exaggeration 10. Jealousy Those are the major ten instincts of the human body and those you call psychopaths are basically driven to 100% by them. They are living full of emotions but they have no soul to relate to them and deem what is intelligent. A psychopath is full of emotion, but they are also not in control and they are basically dead on soul level. Curing a psychopath of their current condition is almost impossible because their spirit has decayed so much and it would take leading them unto something which nurtures their soul. But I told you in a previous post to check the meaning of emotion. Emotion is a feeling generated by the body. And you must learn to differentiate between that and the consciousness of the mind. Those who develop their minds can form empathic thoughts towards people without it coming from the body, they can control the body to generate empathic emotions, and for example like Jesus said: "Care also for your enemies". Without intellectual development it would virtually be impossible to care for someone who hurts you because the instinct yells for you to seek revenge. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 18:32:39 GMT
The body is purely a perceptual form, as all material reality is, only consciousness exists, thought is the totality of what is perceived as material. I've seen you posted reply elsewhere with your list topped with hierarchy, hierarchy is the problem, and Islam originally presented a guide to the removal of hierarchy, and so riba, as they are bed fellows. You seem focused on the psychopathic, when you, I'm guessing, are not a psychopath, that list is not correct at all for an empath. We as empaths desire almost none of that list innately, only through nurture do empaths indulge these psychopathic compulsions. The main reason for that is the complete loss of community, we are communal creatures, as we are a single consciousness fractured, to deny community; a denial imposed through hierarchy, which presently causes suffering, depression, stress, isolation, poverty, ignorance and so on; withers the soul. www.dictionary.com/browse/emotion?s=tsDictionary definition of the word "Emotion" : an affective state of consciousness in which joy, sorrow, fear, hate, or the like, is experienced, as distinguished from cognitive and volitional states of consciousness. Punishment is not empathic it is psychopathic so a nurture response, and it does not work for either the wronged or the wrong doer, even when the wrong doer is caught and "punished" as they claim. The correct way is empathic and is to establish relief for the wronged and the wrong doer alike, as to punish does niether.
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Post by cerulean on Aug 16, 2017 20:02:53 GMT
You seem stuck between your definiton of empath and psychopath.
To separate yourself from emotion, means to separate that "Thinking man inside you" from the influence of emotions. Because that influence can cause you to twist the truth (e.g favor your loved ones), to side with what you inconsciously desire, or think that what you enjoy is right (just because you enjoy it) etc etc.
A psychopath doesn't think properly. He does what he does out of twisted emotions and there are no reasoning in his mind to stop him. Just like a perverted person, e.g a pedophile.
You need to unchain your mind from what puts pressure on it (and that is not a coincidence) in order to be able to see the reality. Otherwise you could be just following your wishful thinking.
It's called Detachment, self-negation, Nirvana, or just to "Burn in the flame of God". And this is a religious wisdom find in many religious doctrines although completely ignored because people follow their self, their self that feels and is easily corrupted.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 20:18:44 GMT
You are wasting your time in the pointless folly of wanting to remove emotion, it is impossible to remove the soul if you have one, everything is in a state of dichotomy, psychopathy is the dichotomic state of empathy, psychopaths are born soulless, they are only perceptual forms as they are dichotomous to the souled.
Therefore a psychopath thinks exactly as is their nature, their thinking is not that of a souled empath, but it is not faulty thinking from their point of view, only seems so when you compare it to the thinking of an empath.
The only way to easily expand your consciousness is by existing in true community, and that presently does not exist. Religions will not help in anyway at that endeavor. Emotion must be mastered through the development of reasoned belief, community is essential to that objective.
We ideally should not focus on the foolishness of religions but on the elements of consciousness itself.
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Post by cerulean on Aug 16, 2017 20:34:55 GMT
You call it "Emotion must be mastered" I call it "To detach your true you from your false you". You're being picky about your vocabulary here, however your reasoning is deeply flawed since you think that "love", a mere instable emotion, is the key to master your other emotions. While the excess of love itself will lead to dependence to that emotion/ obsession. This is a fact.
Furthermore, your emotions DO NOT THINK. YOU think. So to be able to THINK PROPERLY one needs to make sure that there are no OUTSIDE FACTORS influencing your THINKING. Hence why, you detach yourself (= To detach your thinking), but first you need to realize the illusion you're in. (By thinking again, not emotions)
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
The body is purely a perceptual form, as all material reality is, only consciousness exists, thought is the totality of what is perceived as material. I've seen you posted reply elsewhere with your list topped with hierarchy, hierarchy is the problem, and Islam originally presented a guide to the removal of hierarchy, and so riba, as they are bed fellows. It is not exactly my list but the list of Moses (Musa). Desire to place oneself on a hierarchical "ladder" is part of the instinct (Satan) and leads people to vainly believe in a deity while belittling themselves because their limited minds cannot think properly beyond what they can see. The point in it all is not to diminish the self but rather the opposite and this is where religions are out on thin ice claiming one should submit their mind and soul including intelligence to the superior being. But what if the superior being is actually testing the intelligence of the subject in question? Actually, it is your right to an independent mind which is at stake and you are allowed to have your own being, a real you, a real identity. You seem focused on the psychopathic, when you, I'm guessing, are not a psychopath, that list is not correct at all for an empath. We as empaths desire almost none of that list innately, only through nurture do empaths indulge these psychopathic compulsions. The main reason for that is the complete loss of community, we are communal creatures, as we are a single consciousness fractured, to deny community; a denial imposed through hierarchy, which presently causes suffering, depression, stress, isolation, poverty, ignorance and so on; withers the soul. You have to distinguish between an emotion and empathy because while sharing the etymological root the meaning in modern English is quite different. I have written to you twice now regarding a lexical definition for "emotion" and it seems you have not yet cared to analyze it. Because you seem reluctant to do so I bring in an extract from 'Longman's Dictionary of Contemporary English': e‧mo‧tion W3 / ɪməʊʃ ə n $ ɪmoʊ- / noun [ uncountable and countable ]
a strong human feeling such as love, hate, or anger : Her voice was full of emotion . conflicting/mixed emotions Sara listened with mixed emotions. She was good at hiding her emotions . Kim received the news without showing any visible sign of emotion .
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adjectives strong/intense Issues such as abortion arouse strong emotions. | The emotion was so intense that she spent most of the movie in tears. powerful (= having a very strong effect on someone ) Grief is a very powerful emotion. deep (= strongly felt, but not always expressed ) He had never revealed these deep emotions to anyone. painful (= one that is difficult to deal with ) Painful emotions, stored away in the patient’s memory, can suddenly come flooding back. overwhelming (= a very strong emotion that you feel suddenly ) She was filled with an overwhelming emotion of relief. a positive emotion (= love, happiness, hope etc ) Try to focus on your positive emotions. a negative emotion (= anger, fear, hate etc ) It’s not easy learning how to deal with negative emotions. mixed/conflicting emotions (= a mixture of very different feelings ) She had mixed emotions about seeing him again. pent-up emotions (= emotions that someone feels but does not express ) Crying can release pent-up emotions. great emotion She sings with great emotion. real emotion (= very strong emotion ) There was real emotion in his voice. raw emotion (= strong emotions that someone shows openly and does not control ) The crowd responded to his words with raw emotion. human emotions the expression of human emotions through music and poetry
verbs show emotion He didn’t show any emotion when I told him I was pregnant. express an emotion (= show or talk about ) He had always found it difficult to express his emotions. feel/experience an emotion Seeing him with his new wife, she felt emotions that she did not want to feel again. hide your emotions ( also conceal your emotions formal ) Laura could not hide her emotions, or pretend to feel something she did not. stir up people’s emotions (= deliberately try to make people have strong feelings ) His speech roused the crowd and stirred up their emotions.
phrases be full of emotion (= showing or feeling strong emotions, especially sadness ) When she spoke, Nellie’s voice was full of emotion. be overcome with emotion (= feel an emotion so strongly that you cannot behave normally ) As soon as I heard that song, I was overcome with emotion. be choked with emotion (= feel so much emotion that you cannot speak normally ) Mr Ford’s voice was choked with emotion as he addressed the mourners. be devoid of emotion formal (= not showing or feeling any emotion ) I find his books completely devoid of emotion. a display/expression of emotion (= an emotion that is shown clearly openly ) Such open displays of emotion made him feel uncomfortable. a sign of emotion He showed no sign of emotion as the guilty verdict was read out. a hint/trace/flicker of emotion (= a very small sign that someone feels an emotion ) I thought I saw a flicker of emotion in his eyes. a wave/flood/surge/rush of emotion (= a sudden very strong emotion ) A great surge of emotion swept through her when she learnt that he was safe. the depth of an emotion (= how strong an emotion is ) She was surprised by the depth of her emotions. lack of emotion George’s apparent lack of emotion was too much to bear.
Empathy is the ability to understand other people's feelings and problems. I agree a psychopath cannot understand this and therefore a psychopath is not empathic. However, a psychopath can express emotions since he/she can become angry, happy, sad etc, but the person cannot relate to how other people feel because they are mentally numb as the spirit of their soul is broken. The psychopath does all the Satan's wishes because the spirit of their soul is broken and they function not much different from an animal, but the psychopath can express emotions however they are only centered on the psychopath itself. The psychopath does add in all of the Ten Commandments' trespasses at any time because there is no resistance existent in the person anymore and therefore the person appears evil to people. The psychopath therefore, contrary to your arguments, is actually more emotional than ordinary people who still have their integrity left because they do not resist anything that is thrown at them of the list of instincts. They are; on top of the hierarchy, materialism, vanity, obsession, self-preservation, domination, promiscuity, greed, exaggeration and jealousy, on all of its extremities because the soul is driven for all at once as it barely has any soul strength left in it. Their intense drive for the lure of the instincts is so great that there is no room for empathy, which you probably can understand, if you consider they go in all out on every single instinct. They may even murder someone to get what they want. Despite that you say you do not fall for any of the instincts, even slightly, I doubt you are immune and if you are then I congratulate you. But I think this is like when people condemn a woman of adultery in Jesus' time and when Jesus asks the one without sin to throw the stone everyone just silently goes away without a word. The reason why everyone goes away is because they adhered to the Ten Commandments very much and they would have broken commandment number 9 if they would have thrown the stone and had committed a sin sometime in their life. It was probably too embarrassing to admit it loud so everyone just silently withdrew instead. I am truly impressed if you have never: 1. Wanted a particular place in society 2. Wanted an item vainly 3. Done things vainly 4. Been vainly obsessed with something 5. Thought of yourself over others 6. Ever wanted to win a game 7. Looked upon a person of the opposite sex with desire 8. Been greedy 9. Exaggerated something / Carried false testimony (about the condition of something) 10. Been jealous Please respond and remember that if this is not true and you cannot admit it and yet claim you have not faltered in your life, you break one of the commandments of the decree of Moses simply by returning your false answer. Be honest. A very common thing which the majority of humans on Earth fall for frequently is seeking to win, i.e. dominate. If you have sought to dominate someone any time throughout your life you have sinned. I cannot lie, I have sinned trying to win while I was not as wise as today, but I have tried to reform. Today the grand majority of people seek to dominate more than I. I do not even play games where I am to dominate. Essentially correct. You need to help those alike you and those who are enemies/opposed you. The perpetrator may require immobilization (limited freedom) however before their mind is working properly, as you cannot let a person with a dysfunctional mind roam freely. However, the caregivers must not treat the person badly because of what he/she has done and the action takes towards the person should be treatment and not punishment. Yet you have a problem relating your talk about empathy to emotions which is talking about different matters. Emotions are only as you said; "an affective state of consciousness in which joy, sorrow, fear, hate, or the like, is experienced...", and this is not much dissimilar to what I have said. Emotions are causing an affective state of consciousness, they affect the mind. Effectively, a psychopath has emotions, but they are not empathic, as I wrote earlier in a very elaborate way of conveying what I intended to say in hope you can comprehend. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 21:31:55 GMT
You clearly are not reading the posts, I gave the dictionary definition of emotion as you seem not to have access to a dictionary and seem to ber inventing definitions, empathy is the psychological identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another, it is putting yourself in sympathetic emotional synch, empathy is an emotional reaction.
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 21:37:07 GMT
I made a distinction between reasoning and emotion, in every state of consciousness you are expressing some emotional response, and emotion is the dominant aspect of every soul, belief whether true or false engenders certain emotional responses to given situations and these emotional responses themselves effect the reasoning of the individual, therefore belief is the element that is most releveant, master reasoning to establish true beliefs to in turn master emotion.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 22:08:25 GMT
You clearly are not reading the posts, I gave the dictionary definition of emotion as you seem not to have access to a dictionary and seem to ber inventing definitions, empathy is the psychological identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another, it is putting yourself in sympathetic emotional synch, empathy is an emotional reaction. Of course I have access to a dictionary and I even gave you a longer extract. What the words mean is easy though: Emotions - Affective impulses coming to your mind which may affect you with happiness, sadness etc. Empathy - The ability to be able to relate to the emotions of others I do not understand what you are fighting about. Everything is crystal clear and according to logic. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2017 22:19:08 GMT
I made a distinction between reasoning and emotion, in every state of consciousness you are expressing some emotional response, and emotion is the dominant aspect of every soul, belief whether true or false engenders certain emotional responses to given situations and these emotional responses themselves effect the reasoning of the individual, therefore belief is the element that is most releveant, master reasoning to establish true beliefs to in turn master emotion. I am trying to say that emotions may cause pressure on your mind to a certain response. As you may have read earlier, I tend to use the word "instinct" usually and not emotion. in‧stinct / ɪnstɪŋkt / noun [ uncountable and countable ] a natural tendency to behave in a particular way or a natural ability to know something, which is not learned → intuition instinct for Animals have a natural instinct for survival. instinct to do something the human instinct to form relationships by instinct Birds build nests by instinct. sexual/maternal/survival instinct Her instinct told her that something was wrong. sb’s first instinct (= what someone feels like doing first when something happens ) His first instinct was to rush back to Isobel. This is something which I, with right, speak badly about and that should be understood the proper light. But when emotions hammer on the mind, then the instinct may get a grip over the judgment and one does act according to instinct. Emotions are dangerous and one should be wary of emotions as they reinforce the instinctive tendency. I am not saying one cannot express emotions, but one should exercise control over them. This should not affect your judgment. It appears however that we go by each other frequently in discussion here and due to different aspects of the same issue there is a misinterpretation. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by abdunnur on Aug 16, 2017 22:48:02 GMT
The innate exists in you from birth, originating in or arising from the intellect or the constitution of the mind, rather than learned through experience, while instinct is a natural intuitive power. Both are possessed; instinct is a base state, so creates a compulsion toward certain behaviour like fight or flight, satisfying hunger, lust, thirst; etcetera. While the innate is a higher state, which creates an inclination towards certain higher behaviours, such as virtues or being moral. So all instinct is innate but not all that is innate is instinct.
It seems I am talking to myself on these threads, I give reasoned responses and get a repetition of the same dogmatic views. I'll leave you to your forum, enjoy, peace.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2017 12:21:33 GMT
Yet we basically say the same thing. What I wished to get across to you is that the soul and the body are two different aspects of your self.
Over and over again I am telling you that your soul is of a higher origin and it is placed in an animal, a primate with instincts of its own and that is not dogmatic but it is a fact. We have to work from that premise.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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