History of the Hebrews/Jews Aug 28, 2017 7:44:08 GMT via mobile
Post by Immanuel on Aug 28, 2017 7:44:08 GMT
Yes, I am aware of these abbreviations. My point was based on the quote from wiki, which states that it was the lingua franca across the Middle East, North Africa, Horn of Africa during ancient times. My concern was the fact that classic Arabic described on the page states that it was the same Arabic, which is in Qur’an as we know it, but, at the same time, it says ‘during ancient times’, which was confusing to me. Post-AD does not sound as ‘ancient’ to me, since 600 AD is what official history believe is the original of Qur’anic revelation.
Depends on your perspective. If you are into the Acheamenid or Egyptian Pharaohean eras, then the rise of Islam and those events are not so distant and thus less ancient. Time is relative however, so it entirely depends on your own premises.
Can you please provide link to your studies? I did not see them on the forums, or did not search well enough. I would like to see also.
It is possible to see such references in the Random Rant section of the forum where I discussed it.
I will make a slight shift. What is your opinion on the story of Moses when he wandered for 40 years in desert with Jews who were previously enslaved in Egypt? To me it sounds as if this period of time could have been used as a mechanism to turn people into a generation (such as one generation during the period of 40 years) of sheep, instead of liberating them. In other words, this period of wandering around the desert was used to make people blindly follow the prophet, otherwise what was the point of this journey? Was Moses a righteous and spiritual person to your belief, compared to Yeshua?
The true happenings surrounding Moses happened differently. First of all, Moses did not kill a man, and Moses was a Commander of the army, and his prophetic wisdom became a threat to the Pharaohean establishment. When Moses challenged the religious assembly then he reached a huge barrier and they even plotted against him so he had to flee.
Moses is a person who has been blackmailed by many stories and made seem less spiritual than he was.
Moses did return to the Pharaohean community and gained many followers, after he was communicated to by the 'High Community' and after reaching the spiritual man called Jethro who helped him sponsor his mental development. By the 'High Community' he learned that "The one who is is who is" (la elah ela ellah) or "I am who I am", so this is the teaching he conveyed to the 'Children of Israel' and showed Pharaoh had none of those characteristics required kind of undermining his authority and for a time Moses and Pharaoh coexisted with their respective assemblies until a date when Moses deemed there would be no more followers. War emerged and Moses brought the people away.
But, Moses brought the people from the Americas to Africa, today's Marocco and then continued into the Saharan deserts for many (forty means also many) years. Those who did not continue with Moses settled along the way and this is another reason el and la exists in Spanish. And eventually they came to Egypt (which is not Mesr) but they were going to Philistines (today's Palestine) but did not dare go there, so they built the community in Egypt instead. This is why there are pyramids in both America and Egypt.
That is the authentic version of historical happenings.