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Post by Immanuel on Oct 13, 2017 7:20:45 GMT
Hello,
First of all I would like to write that this is nothing like an enforced law of any kind but general guidelines for an 'efficient living' through this life. For the unaccustomed reader I recommend reading other threads on this forum in order to understand without misconception as this writing is about something which could be regarded as "unnatural" and perhaps nonsense, although I tell you that is tragic ignorance of the truth and this is an efficient way of finding the key towards mental ascension.
Here is a list of the most important parameters for someone who wishes to excel mentally, I will explain each of them too later.
1. Logic 2. Suppressed emotion - Not to be confused with no empathy 3. Suppressed instinctive reaction - Virtually the same as above
[Plus Judgment - Read subsequent posts]
This is something to strive for; it may seem almost magical that it enables mental growth, but the bodily (detrimental) effect does diminish the mind and cutting off and refusing its effect through willpower does focus the mind and making it free to grow in spite of the bodily interference. Emotions do disturb mental growth even if it might be hard to understand and since psychology is something hard to outright prove it is required to actually test the hypothesis oneself and this is why I encourage everyone who reads the information on this forum to test what is written themselves without just rejecting it outright and I assure you it will yield positive results.
Denying the body influence on the mind cuts its grip over your person and as you reinforce the strategy above you will sense you can resist emotional and instinctive outbursts and the ability comes to you gradually. It is basically because you help/support the mind's integrity to become stronger. Your true identity does not involve emotion or instinctive reaction and to the mind this behavior is not natural, but you express it because you are weak and you are deluded your identity is with the body. Since you can prove if you put your mind to it that you can be better than a "lowly human", it indirectly proves there is something remarkable in the link between body and mind.
To be continued...
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 20, 2017 14:52:22 GMT
This is something I wrote earlier to someone in private and now make available to the general public as it does not contain any personal information and this is useful for just about anyone.
The list which I often relay to people here and there, i.e. this one:
1. Hierarchy 2. Materialism 3. Vanity 4. Absorption 5. Self-preservation 6. Domination 7. Promiscuity 8. Greed 9. Falseness 10. Jealousy
This list is a more scientific approach to the 'Ten Commandments' when speaking about the autonomous (Satan) driving towards each and every one of them. It is the philosophical background to the 'Ten Commandments' which gives hints to what should be avoided instinctively in life above it being merely a zealous law. Let me explain, if you have not understood yet:
1. What prevents a person from taking an individual superiority of mind as an independent being is hierarchical alignment, i.e. it is the "sheep mentality" basically even if one is imagining they are at the top of the hierarchy (the false one).
2. The human body loves things, it is in the genetic programming and the instinct drives a human to surround themselves with items and it is a real hoarder. Even a ring on the finger, an unnecessarily brandy smartphone, fashionable clothing, collectible items are included in this part of the "law". This is what the misinterpreted line "do not take any graven images and worship them" means, the graven images are simply what you have in mind of images to idolize, even a football team can be an idol and included in this part of the "law".
3. When you are not focused on the commands ("words") of 'Those Who Are Being' (Elohim) then you are indulged in vanity, so this obviously preoccupies the mind when the time could be spent on more fruitful activities. This is highly related with the below commandment and a good solution is to keep the Sabbateh (Sabbath) to prevent vain behavior and activities.
4. Humans through the instinct are prone to become preoccupied by daily activities, i.e. they work hard with their in reality meaningless career or they are absorbed using all their spare time playing video games, watching television/movies, socializing etc. The commandment/directive's remedy to this is to frequently contemplate and this is the real meaning of Sabbateh (Sabbath), it is time you reserve for contemplation and the more time you reserve the better and it is NOT a ritual as in religious belief, the seven day believed basis is due to misunderstanding of the usage of a word that can either mean seven or several, reflect upon the similarity between SEVEn and SEVEral in English, yes, the words are similar but not yet the same and the old "law" said "maintain a frequent contemplation" although the line in the "law" only spoke of "Uphold the Sabbateh". The word and number for seven in itself is a great mystery and recurs in many mysterious writings of old. It could be explained that several is more than one and up to seven, i.e. Sabbateh should be performed at least once every seven days, but any day is fine. It means Sabbateh could be performed many times throughout a week if one feels that is good for oneself as the "timer" resets each time one does it. Personally I hold a ritual-like (habitual) Sabbateh each night I go to bed where I list each commandment and then evaluate if I did succumb to one of them during the day and this is done just for brainstorming and I also contemplate on what I can do not to get in the situation where I sin again. It is arguably best to keep Sabbateh as often as possible.
5. The human is by its bodily nature inclined towards members of those they associate themselves with in life and less caring about outsiders and those socially different with according to them strange practices and this includes outright criminals in society and the absolute measure of having overcome the instinct is caring for a person with asocial and psychopathic behavior, or let us call it "problematic behavior" and/or those who have a "broken spirit". They need a physician not an executioner, they are victims of the world and require assistance and a show that people care about them. Someone treated with hostility when being hostile is not going to change their behavior, they need to see that an alternative lifestyle is available and attainable by them and see the benefits of it. Many criminals are criminal because they do it because of jealousy towards the society, they see the world as wholly evil and no good and their domination feels good instinctively, e.g. when they rob a bank, rob a person, rape a woman and so their behavior is reinforced and it does not change unless they see an alternative and that the alternative is true and viable. Being harsh, judging and even executing these people does not change anything except being rid of them for the time being even if they return for the concept of reincarnation is true so they spawn in another body and grow up into another criminal again elsewhere, so our judging behavior is the breeding ground for future criminals. A broken spirit is not solved by making them appear elsewhere, their broken spirit must be remedied. Sufficiently broken spirits are reborn as handicapped, such as people with Down's Syndrome and there you have an explanation for handicapped people in the world, their mind is so chaotic it has no place in a sound body. Adolf Hitler may exist in the world spawned in a body with Down's Syndrome and also the man has gotten his "punishment" indirectly by the world itself, so you have no reason to judge anyone in the world to a punishment. The world solves the "punishment" by itself. The decaying of the Seed of Man does have conscious changes in the perception of an individual while attached to a body to the point the person may be totally handicapped. The decaying of the mind/seed does also happen while you are alive in a body and the body does contribute to this decay. This is why you see so many apparently worthless beings in the world, they are all victims of it and it is not for you to hate them but to care for them, they are victimized without realizing it. Making them realize is the best thing you can do, but the realization must be according to their ability so you cannot go from Alpha (Alef) to Omega at once, i.e. it is futile to tell them about becoming angels when they cannot even live as independent Beings. This is what you have had the last thousands of years to evolve according to the setup of plans while guidance has subtly been there all along.
So on a bottom line, avoid kinship and getting into such patterns of the instinct and care for each citizen equally. It does not say "love them", this is nothing you should do, but you should not abandon anyone. If the crazy fool who murdered a dozen people needs food, you give the food to him and you do not beat him half to death and you do not frown at him but you should be unemotional to the fact about who he is. If you can, you help him and the best would be if the person would receive mental help some way. Personally I emulate friendship around me, but I am not treating them any particular way than I treat others and if my own biological son would be wrong and another one's son would be right, I would take the other person's son's party. If a parent cannot take another person's son's party, then they are suffering from the instinct mentioned here. The worst case scenario would be if my wife was raped, this is like conceived to raise anger and by the instinct of self-preservation I would set out to kill the "son of a bitch" who raped my wife and so it sponsors my domination instinct and even if I had subdued the rapist by neutralizing him, I may continue to kick and beat him until death comes to him, but if I can control myself I do neutralize him with as little violence as I can and then hand him over to the authorities and I wish for him to ever recover from his broken mind, i.e. I still care about him. Understanding why people are the way they are is very important for building up empathy for the world around you.
This part of the "law" may be difficult to explain, but it is very simple actually. It has to do with you forming groups in your mind and treating them differently and it is all due to the instinct of belonging. This instinct is reinforcing the stupid behavior of so-called football hooliganism which is completely illogical to a sound mind but to the victims of the instinct they do not understand it. The instinct drives them towards the behavior. The directive is so simple as to tell: "Treat your neighbor as yourself" and Eysua complemented it by saying: "Care also for your enemy" while the original Mosaic saying said "Be wary of your enemy" or even distance yourself from your enemy. Eysua's concept is an elaboration of the ancient decree and with many hundreds of years between the two and thus also with developmental potential between the two. Also, the revelation comes with "milestones" according to the progression and it was supposed that people should work on this by using their own intelligence and functionality of the mind over the centuries. Today, in the 21st century A.D., the era of unclear/ambiguous (waraye) revelation is supposed to come to an end and the Manifestation (Quran) is supposed to reveal every detail, every sign of your origin and your situation on Earth and explain exactly what the directives are about. Now it only takes believing in what has been revealed and this is going to be the major problem for people. Is the love of this world stronger than their own sense of what is right and wrong, i.e. their logic? A sufficiently evolved mind can understand this through reflection as only logic is required and given exact information and knowledge, they know everything "black on white" and there is no further knowledge seeking required and it is all about action.
6. The human is inclined towards dominant behavior and this is, as the other things mentioned here, instinctive. Without even reflecting upon it and why, most people in the world watch violent movies and other literature and they may enjoy MMA fights and they feel a thrill when the person they identify themselves with win and knock out the opponent. The behavior is bizarrely related to sexuality and in many cases the domination instinct is connected to sexuality and there can be a sexual stimulation by domination and this is why warriors in a war my rape women victims because in the heat of domination and battle they find it much dominant to enter the woman. It is a tragic reality. For the one who wishes to evolve at maximum, they should not even play games to win even if seemingly peaceful ones as the instinct to win/dominate is the evil/relevant thing here.
7. The sex drive hardly needs any further comment due to what I have already told you. It is innate in each body. It becomes worst when the mind is thirsting for it.
8. Greed is something which most people have even if they do not understand it. Stealing and exploiting comes as a result when the greed overcomes the sense of right and wrong. Like the other instincts, this is interrelated with such as the instinct to dominate and then one may exploit people and due to self-preservation they may be insensitive/careless and greed may lead a person to sexually interact with someone who is not their partner which is a kind of exploitation too.
9. The human has an instinct/tendency to lie in order to achieve their agenda. Even if a person does not wish to do it they may lie. Sometimes it even becomes compulsory, but many times a person lies without conscious input in order to avoid consequences and many would lie in a court of law in order to avoid punishment or inflict a punishment upon someone they do not like. This is an instinct related to the other instincts as most are interrelated and a human may lie to achieve domination for example in a court of law and they may lie due to jealousy. Even random animals may apply deception in order to trick their victims and it is a natural instinct, e.g. they may play weaker than they are or that they are retreating etc. In a human the behavior is bad due to the creature's potential danger.
10. This barely needs any further explanation. Jealousy is very common in people and it is sufficient to wish to have what others have. Jealousy has therefore a very low threshold and merely wishing to have what your friend has is jealousy per this directive. Breaking this directive is extremely easy. It is hard to accept it, but most people are jealous all the time. Only way of overcoming this is to reinforce the integrity of Being, understanding and be in control of yourself. E.g. if you find that others are rich and you want to be rich, this is jealousy, why become rich, because this is a sign of success and social status? You want to become successful in a career because you envy someone else, this is violating this directive, it may be looking up to someone else among your elderly family members, to walk in their footsteps and do what they did. These are vain goals and you do them because seek to be what others are, but actually you are like a sheep. Once again I say, if you only have ONE worldly wish you share with others because you envy/seek with them you are breaking this directive. The original commandment line is very forth-telling actually saying a whole great deal of what I wrote: "Do not covet your neighbor's ... matters".
You see it is easier to sin than you may have imagined, many people around the Earth sin every day without even realizing they sin. To say one does not sin is ignorance usually. It is so sensitive that if you even play a game versus someone you are sinning. If you are attracted to a woman you are sinning. You want to get (worldly) rich, fine you are sinning. You want a successful career, you are a sinner. Even a very devout religious person who thinks they are so pure and better than all the sinners around them does sin without realizing it and they sinned even when they started to think they are so much better than the rest and I am sure they break the directives continuously throughout their everyday. Most important thing is to become aware that you sin and what is the cause of it and accept the fact that your sinning is wrongdoing and not religious extremism but for the fact that is reinforces the Bodily versus Mental reality. If one does know the underlying cause, the bodily and its included Satan (autonomy), it is much easier to have a working remedy for themselves and it does not seem like religious extremism anymore, and it is the simple fact to them then.
So now I can tell you, you are a to-be-angel, you are in an environment of development with certain challenges to overcome and you are a unique individual if you let yourself to be. The only one who determines who you should become is yourself, you decide yourself and it is your delusion which prevents you from it. You are like an experimental seed, often replanted multiple times, in order to see the performance in order to see if it is something to have. Heck man, even NAFS equals Seed basically, it means by 'Innate Letter Meanings' "Integrity Forth Spirit". If the language speaks of NAFSKUM, it says "the seed of yours" and the seed is your person, who you are, or more about who you can become as a seed can grow so can you. You can evolve your person into something better. You are not a plaything of a god, you must overcome that delusion and you can be like the master, because you have the same potential, this is the seed of who you are, of the pure spirit. When it reaches this level of discussion it is advanced, but it is not so hard to understand and it is actually very simple.
When you are more inclined on Naas ([Integrity Be Spirit]) than Jinn ([Outer Integrity]), this is when you may become "b'esm allah al-rahman al-raheem" "with/by a definition/feature an absolutely complete Being", for "commendable is the Being one who learns to evolve" (Al-hamed laleh rabb al-'alamiyn). There are no silly gods, my dear friend, only a community of Beings which seek out new life, even if their methods may seem cruel to us, but in fact it is people themselves in the world who cause the mayhem because they cannot understand they are in an animal with an innate driving force (Ruh). You can even befriend those who people consider god(s), it is no big deal, but they will not let you cheat by giving you an unfair advantage, you need to use your mind and ability. If you impress on the Elohim/Allahem be sure you are still held in high esteem and closely monitored, but this is also a reason not to let them down by not showing them the maximum of your performance. They know overcoming the challenge they themselves produced is indeed commendable so you are not looked down upon as a lowly being but your willpower and integrity as a Being is saluted and you are an interesting choice to incorporate into Elohim/Allehem. In this regard, this world is like a very hard game with deception you must anticipate and solve and while the game seems to be about everyday living and all features of the Earth as they are, like the Sims (the game), there is a purpose beyond all that and hidden so that it seems as if the game is about living as a person in a world and doing what it is inclined to do. You need to push those innate desires as far from your mental consciousness as you can and refuse to believe this is all there is to your life and allow yourself to be something more, something the "game designer" intended to be its little secret game and which is a whole great deal harder because the little personal desires of the avatar in the game world pops up in the mind constantly and start autonomously without conscious consent (much like in the game the Sims). Be like people can play in the Sims, and take control over the idiotic/senseless wishes of that avatar, pop them away and play the avatar to perfection with the secret game mission seeking out what is considered paranormal and supernatural. So basically, refuse to be a mental slave but force the release of the control and be absolutely present in the consciousness and a strong-willed Being. Consider your mind like a seed which can grow by making the right choices but which chokes on thistles.
Okay. This writing took me some hours of the day so I hope it was not in vain, I dislike when I do something inefficient/ineffective. I hope you understand this is knowledge and not mere rambling.
The source of this information is not myself, but it is established information of old which I elaborate upon and to which Abraham was the first one to lay the foundation of, i.e. to be sound (or M-Selam), and Muse (Moses) helped with a remedy for in order to be sound which was a list of "commandments" or directives which combat Satan which Satan is actually the body's instinct and not some supernatural phenomenon, and Eysua (Jesus) proclaimed is not the least you should do but you should be looking upon the behavior which leads to breaking the very commandments, and now I, Amenuyel, proclaim the full manifest (Quran) for you to listen to and hearken unto if you are intelligent enough to understand I am authoritative concerning this and do elaborate on an authentic source and with appropriate comments on it.
Disclaimer: And this information does not have to do with the sect Islam on Earth which is the product of Paganism and deluded clergymen and scholars. The usage of terms associated with Islam is reserved for explanatory reasons only and I distance myself from the sect and as you can see I try to use English equivalents. The true concept has its roots in Semitic mysticism, but the deluded religious beliefs around the Earth has nothing to do with it and are more or less Paganism 2.0. with a deluded one god concept instead of many, with a god which is very worldly/bodily/fleshly and is just a projection of lowly humans' inner desires and fantasies. When you browse this forum it is not Islam, the sect, you discover but something else and is leading to something much better.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 29, 2017 18:21:16 GMT
Judgment And about judging things in general. "Judgment is your ability to process information, most precisely be logical in forming the true account of something or verify an account which is already true until you know. Judgement has nothing to do with affecting your attitude towards people, but for you to act out (primitively) on those you hold a negative opinion of it takes emotions."The discussion derailed into discussing human justice systems and how they work which was never even the intention and the discussion was supposed to surround the definition of judgment. Judging others is not about condemning them and it is just to form a true account and there is nothing wrong in judging people for who they are. This account is entirely objective if the judgment is performed through logic and any emotional bias is not the process's fault and so if you judge someone this is for who the person is, this is the account of the person you have. An example is; if you are going to help someone with some personal problem you are going to have to judge them, more precisely judge how they live their lives and offer a solution. This means you assess what their life involves and through your judgment you offer them something which will help them, this is sound judgment. Judgment alone DOES NOT decide a punishment nor does judgment have anything to do with condemnation of anyone person or any such emotional outburst. If your judgment decides a punishment for a person this is your own believed system of how something should work and it is your judgment, but it does not necessitate your judgment is sound nor a logical one, nor does it mean judging others is wrong. Without judgment in life you get nowhere, you have to judge throughout your whole life and the more sound the better and you may want to help others too and then you may need to use your judgment in order to help them. This means you may judge them and if no one ever used judgment on others society would get nowhere. Also you would not provide any assistance to those who need it for you do not care to judge what kind of improvements people would need around you. Some people associate judgment with condemning people and justice systems who deliver punishments and it leads to an emotional affection and in the recent case into an entirely different kind of discussion about human justice systems. Condemnation as a result of judgment is totally unrelated to mere first judgment and there basically are three logical options as a result to judgment, of which one of them is very bad, the second is bad but sometimes necessary and the third is good if applied successfully. The three logical courses of action are as follows: - Condemnation
- Ignoring
- Seeking a means of a remedy
The courts of law in human societies tend to favor the first alternative and in rare cases the third option. Condemnation means passing a verdict of a punishment and in courts of law it includes various psychological or physical torturing. If it is not in a court of law but you judge in everyday life and you condemn it means you may become hostile towards the person, speak badly of the person in order to hurt psychologically and even physically hurt the person by justifying the person deserves to be hurt physically, and it all depends on how much emotion you put into the condemnation, but the condemnation is rooted in emotion utterly. Ignoring means you simply ignore the person for their faults. Ignoring people your judgment considers inferior, ignorant and/or deluded is better than condemnation and it may be wise to remain ignoring while "seeking a means of a remedy" and improving your judgment further. Judgment is something which may change as conditions may change and the wise person's judgment shall always be open to change. Seeking a means of a remedy is the best alternative of the three and it means that after your judgment you seek to in some way help the person you consider inferior, ignorant and/or deluded, but it may not always be possible to offer a remedy without due judgment and after thinking a lot. Ignoring is the much better than condemnation in the meantime and it means you just rest your case and accept the person with all their faults and treat the person well until you can offer a remedy. In several cases, your good general treatment may be the only remedy they need so the problem may solve itself, but many times people cannot change before they change their way of thinking and this is when you through your judgment need to offer an alternative way of thinking. This is the remedy. BUT, judgment per term is ONLY building an account of something or someone and the actually taken action is something else and we can call it bad judgment to condemn. This is something everyone must understand without emotional affection including the person who got emotional with me, while I was not emotional to that person. Bad judgment is also building an incorrect account of something by accepting dubious sources as facts which are not logically consistent. Logic is everything to a person's sound judgment and the highest possible level of logic will lead into gaining the most accurate accounts. I can agree that to badly judge a person is bad and that has nothing to do with it being wrong to judge anyone, but it is important to always have a SOUND JUDGMENT. Judging is something we do throughout our entire lives and it is simply logical and you cannot make a good decision without judging first. Bad decisions is when you have not been judging well first and that means you have not applied sound logic. Instead, we can speak of prejudices when we discuss this topic, a prejudiced thought is to already have an account of something without even judging first, it is even clear by the worst itself i.e. PRE-judiced meaning one takes a preconceived account of someone and holds a faulty opinion of them which is not (at all) based on judgment. If you research about someone, knowing them perhaps even asking them yourself and you still think they are with errors, then you have judged and it is okay for you to hold the thought of them you have and your account of them is not prejudiced but based on facts. What you do towards them at that point is then the next level of judgment; condemnation, ignoring or seeking a means of a remedy, i.e. after you judge leading to your account of them you may judge how to behave towards them and it is not related at all towards the initial assessment of who they are. This is equal to when a judge at a human court of law has heard all witnesses including the culprit and the defending lawyer and also heard what the jury has to say is an appropriate course of action, usually condemnation but in rare cases some kind of treatment and I AM NOT SAYING I AGREE NOR DISAGREE WITH HOW HUMAN COURTS WORK AND THIS IS AN ANALOGY. The result of all the witnesses' testimonies has made the judge assess the situation and form an as accurate account of the scene of crime and the NEXT STEP at a human court is finding a legal consequence, i.e. the first step is exactly what the definition of judgment is: "Judgment is your ability to process information, most precisely be logical in forming the true account of something or verify an account which is already true until you know. Judgement has nothing to do with affecting your attitude towards people, but for you to act out (primitively) on those you hold a negative opinion of it takes emotions."Delivering a consequence to the person is also judgment, I agree, but it is the next mental step and here you can judge what is sound or bad judgment. And the steps are, once again: Condemnation Ignoring Seeking a means of a remedy I hope this will solve any misinterpretation that may have occurred with those I have discussed with and you understand my logic and that my judgment is sound. Read twice. And put away emotions and be logical. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 29, 2017 18:36:12 GMT
Never turn yourselves emotional and "throw things to disaster" in which you may regret when you come to your senses. Always remain on your highest possible level of logic and in control of yourself, always looking at things objectively including with the thought patterns in assessing situations lest you may misinterpret something and erroneously burst out in an emotional response which response cannot be justified if applying sound judgment and understanding it properly. Logical thinking is to always have mental processes which search for a context in everything at the best objective aspect of the matter at hand, not holding any preconceived ideas about what the discussion is involving and instead of generating aggression and thinking your faulty thought process is the right judgment, you may simply ask if you understood the other part properly and tell them why their logic is flawed if that is what you think and if their response is more logical than yours then you should accept it, but not asking for clarification and judging someone erroneously is not logical, it means your account was generated with bias.
Whenever you judge you must do so carefully and with reflection and take the time your current state of mind requires to fully assess the situation properly. Emotions do decrease the mental capacity and worsens the judgment and makes it very easy to pass a prejudiced judgment.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 29, 2017 19:10:28 GMT
So let me expand on the list of the first post of this thread in order to accumulate the wisdom which has been conceived through reflection: - Judgment
- Logic
- Suppressed emotion - Not to be confused with no empathy/lifelessness
- Suppressed instinctive reaction - Virtually the same as above
You will be judging throughout your entire life and denying this is right is ignorance and without judging in the best interest of everyone in consideration is showing you suffer from a phenomenon in psychology which is called "the bystander syndrome", it means you follow the second choice of the possible courses of actions on judgment and it indicates lifelessness just as much as condemnation, you expect someone else to "seek a means of a remedy". - Condemnation
- Ignoring
- Seeking a means of a remedy
You should judge, judge as much as you like, it is good to judge, but you should have a sound judgment and your judgment should not be resulting in a prejudiced and/or faulty account of something and your judgment should not lead into condemnation. Judging is assessing the account of just about everything, there is nothing wrong with it and if your judgment is based on logical facts it is absolutely in your right to judge. The more you judge and therefore gain an account of, a picture of how it is, the more knowledgeable and wise you become, and condemnation/reacting negatively about an account of someone which is showing an inferior, ignorant and/or deluded person is not immediately the mental process of judgment's fault but it is more about logical decision-making or not, and the condemning one does not harbor a sound judgment, however this does not make the process of judging wrong. Now that I added Judgment to the list, which is a wise addition and something which should have been in the list from the beginning, we must relate it to logic. Without sound logic your judgment will falter and it is a prerequisite to have sound judgment. Logic means finding the most underlying root/cause to everything and if you are logical it means your thinking patterns search through the whole context and you dig as deep as you can and are not satisfied until you know the whole reason behind something. Logic is reason. When you search for the logic of something by using logic, you look at the precursor to the current step and its precursor and the next before that etc, you are not content before you come to the conclusion why you even exist and when you have that deep knowledge of logic then you have the answer to life and absolutely everything is logical to you. When your logic is well established in you then you are perfectly suited to judge, you should not be afraid of judging and you will not because logic leads to confidence. The enemies of logic are emotions and instinctive reaction, so beware of those and you will remain sound and qualify to both logic and judgment. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Nov 9, 2017 23:19:37 GMT
Logic
Let me try to explain logic. It appears people may not know exactly what logic is.
Logic is basically a science discussing consequence, based on experience (empirical evidence) and prediction (probability) based on the evidence. The word logic is derived from Greek logike and it is used in the famous English suffix -logy to speak about the science of a particular area, e.g. psychology, biology, ornithology etc. But logic is only the -logy part alone and it means "the science of", basically "the nature of" and it is the nature of a specific subject and its processes you talk about its logic. The nature of something is looking down its root from where it came, it is why logic is looking at the process of anything on which you talk about its logic. Not sure if I manage to get the point across.
I will try to continue with something in order for you to understand, if you do not already.
The discussing the functionality of the universe or Earth is discussing its logic. Logic is the objective study of its processes no matter what about the Earth you are discussing. If you are accurately referring to one of its processes, you are putting forth a logical argument. If you are wrong, you are illogical in your argument, because there is a flaw in the processes you tried to describe and was incorrect. Logic is objective, it is always scientifically exacting and there is no room of subjectivity. Emotions have nothing to do here, emotions may often lead to illogical conclusions.
I have been criticized and told logic is not as powerful as I want to make it look like, but the objections are wrong. Logic is so valuable to a developmental living it is worth putting as one of its fundamental pillars and applying in your everyday life.
Logic is a help in analytical thinking, theorizing and when you have still not found empirical evidence, logic's famous term probability is a powerful tool. When you use probability you seek the option which basically sounds most plausible and which has the highest probability of being true and you focus your efforts on exploring that which is most logical.
If you are wise, you "brainstorm" with as many variables as possible and then use deductive reasoning in order to find the most logically consistent alternative and you look deeper into the matter and search for the root of something and not just what your eyes can see, i.e. you seek an answer to what process leads to the next and what leads to the next after that etc.
An example of logic is:
Someone say sex is instinctive. An instinct is something which pushes you to do it. Therefore the sex drive is autonomously pushing you towards it. The logic may say the human is an animal, but still not because a human can compared to an animal also resist it. Logic finds a conflict of two entities, one body and one mind/consciousness, one which just drives on towards the activity much like an animal, while there is another which may control the course of action. Logic has already separated the mind/spirit from the body/flesh, and you can see how powerful logic is in analyzing data and constructing hypotheses.
This is logic. It is just a powerful tool in analytical thinking.
Another example:
Quran has mysterious lonely letters introducing many chapters. Analyzing. In several of the chapters the letter or letters are followed by a conjunction. Logic tells the letters are supposed to be part of the context. Furthermore, logic tells the letter(s) is/are likely supposed to be understood to carry a meaning of their own. The logic here tells there is a high probability the letters of the language are supposed to convey a kind of innate letter meaning (ILM) i.e. that each letters actually means something in the language and not only here. The logic hence tells logic, and logic says the author of the book deliberately put the letters there to catch the attention of a perceptive reader and lead him/her into thinking whether the letters may actually be a key into learning the secret of the fundamental structure of this language.
Very basic logic:
What leads to killing? Anger leads to violence and violence may lead to killing. Anger is caused by emotional instability. Emotional instability is caused by the body and the body is driven autonomously by something called the instinct. The instinct is a feature of an animal, conclusion the human is at least partially an animal.
Why can the human then do something to resist it? Logic tells the human has a consciousness, a mind, which no other animal has and which projects a feeling of self-awareness and supremacy over other animals. Logic gets not immediately further here without obtainable facts, human scientists have a theory and that is evolution, which contains many flaws with logic such as what is the spark of intelligence, motivation to drive evolution forward and if there is a big bang, what even initiated it. For human science to work it requires logic, and there is no logic in saying big bang just happened without a conscious motivation for it. A mind, an intelligence, must be behind the universe and driving evolution forward. Logic tells one or more mind(s) is behind the universe as we know it, or the universe has an innate background intelligence which is like a world soul. Logic has concluded there must be a supernatural (above nature) explanation to existence, logic which is a scientist's best friend. Human science tells through quantum mechanics that the world is projected energy from an seemingly nonexistent origin, it just is. Logic tells the world is just raw energy projecting the reality as we know it.
Based on so many indications it is illogical to believe there is no supernatural phenomenon beyond the immediate reality. It is ironical that logic can be used to refute human beliefs of no supernatural phenomenon, something beyond the immediate reality. A The term of -theism is bad, but if to use atheism as an example, being an atheist is belief and nothing else. They have no proof to argue against you if you believe in a supernatural being. However, logical probability tells that it is more probable that there is a supernatural being than that there is not, so hence theists are logical. If there are overwhelming arguments for everything taught by this forum to be true, it is illogical by people not to embrace its teachings, because it is better to always follow what is more logical, even if it is a hypothesis based on logic. The point here is that you get your hypothesis confirmed after you have tried it and died successfully, but logic tells it is a more sound way and has the probability on its side.
However, the forum teaches something which is empirically testable and can hence be experienced and that is developmental living and growing the mind and it further brings circumstantial evidence. It makes the hypothesis a wise choice. Psychological changes which can be measured are valid as evidence, even for scientific purposes. If the mind can grow to totally "crush" the instinctive nature of the body, it shows the human is more than an animal.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Nov 12, 2017 9:30:10 GMT
In order for people not to misunderstand this subject, let me brainstorm definitions concerning it:
Logic is:
Logic is in everyday life practically a tool to analyze event/process chains either according to available data or through prediction based on available data. It is used to assemble knowledge together and also requires sound judgment, judgment which is void of both emotions and instincts.
And it involves:
Analytical thinking Process exploration Knowledge of how something works - This is what "the logic of" means
In everyday life, a sound person should focus on logical thinking i.e. fact-based reflection and together with a good judgment this is a winning concept. However, in order to not be biased intellectually it is required to set the instinct and emotion aside. This is hard, but not impossible and it is empirically testable, you can test it yourself and if you cannot it means you do not have sufficient faith and determination.
In fact, it is the instinct and emotion which causes a person not to excel together with hasted judgment and flawed logic. Focusing on what I teach of careful judgment and logical thinking plus suppression of the instinct and the accompanying emotions, will improve your character and your control.
It is not an exaggeration that your life should involve intensive analytical thinking, the more you analyze the better and you should analyze things to pieces, but always leave what you feel about things aside, you should face things in an unemotional way even if it is a difficult matter you are facing including something which is emotionally challenging.
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Post by Immanuel on Nov 15, 2017 21:39:39 GMT
Willpower
Willpower is the ability to be in control. Among the other important pillars of developmental living willpower is equally, if not even more, important as them.
The instinct of our bodies is relentless in seeking our submission to it and a very tough determination is required in order to progress. In order to truly evolve and become the Being you are meant to be, you will need to convince yourself maximum willpower is the only way. You may lose many struggles with the body along the way and it is important for you to never accept its won influence over you and always strive to build up a better resistance.
Your willpower is basically measured in how much of a Being you are, it determines your integrity as an independent individual. Success in demonstrating this will increase your consciousness and the two go hand in hand.
This is true because mind and body are two different phenomena and focusing your willpower on suppressing the animal you will bring forth what is basically hidden in you, a kind of mind seed of a higher origin, which can evolve into a really potent Being and such is the hidden purpose of this world. That you are this so-called Homo sapiens is just a deception and what you are made to believe, this is something that you have to realize for yourself. This realization is something you can sense eventually, but you must start somewhere and give it an honest try.
Exercising your ability to govern and making conscious determinations in commanding your body to be something more than a primitive animal, does gradually evolve your mind and you will notice you can withstand more stimuli, you can eventually stand up against the instinct and decide how the body is going to react or if it is going to react at all. Along the journey you will notice the difference between body and mind, for when your mind is coming about then you can literally feel the body's frustration in not getting what it wants when you with your mind do control it and the difference between them is very distinguishable then. You can feel a roaring heat from within even if you are not displaying any emotion and this is a good sign, but most developed you are when your masterful influence on it causes it to be completely tranquil under external provocation.
The body will fall for these things:
Hierarchical alignment Materialism Vanity Absorption into matters Self-preservation of self and kin Domination Sexual habits Greed Falsehood Jealousy
This is in the nature of the animal we are subjected to and finding ourselves within. The instinctive desires is something to steer clear of. And to manage this you need willpower, you need to gather strength of the mind in resisting this primitive animal. You need to take this matter seriously. You need to accept the fact that the body is not what you have to be. You can master the body and stand firmly above it and in that practically be a superhuman.
Let us work on the list again:
1. Willpower - The power of the mind - The focus on Being someone 2. Judgment 3. Logic 4. Suppression of the instinct and the instinctive emotions
The willpower you practice by deciding to go against what you normally do, because of the autonomous driving of the body. There are many examples. One is by deciding to not be angry when you normally do. Another is to not seek to win (dominate) while you normally do. Yet another is to focus on buying things that you really need and not because you like vanity. Last one is, do not covet your friend's fancy stuff just for the sake of having it.
This is actually pretty simple and not full of strange rituals and you can start at any time. You only need to convince yourself there is something in these sayings of mine and that they actually come from a genuine source of authority.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 15, 2018 20:22:08 GMT
BE IN CONTROL
BE NOT CONTROLLED (by automated behavior, others)
Important to the pillars I have told of.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 16, 2018 19:06:05 GMT
It feels like I am only posting large walls of text which no one finds any interest in, but if there is even one I feel obligated to continue. I also have so much to tell yet limited on how to formulate myself and I do not want to be misunderstood. Sometimes I feel full of inspiration knowing what to write, but oftentimes it is about the opposite side, despite that I know what you should know. I might be a poor lecturer, a person who stands and just grinds on about some subject without interaction with the students, it seems I am the kind of person who finds difficulty teaching when there is no particular word exchange and questioning taking place.
It may be that I lose many potential prospects due to these cumbersome walls of text with no direction. This thread was intended to be a streamlined attempt at directing and summarizing the essential pillars of what there is to know about development, yet I sense I fail at it, and never came to accomplish what I sought to do.
I have little excitement in holding the leader role or being the important one, and it seems people expect me to help them forward with whatever they need to accomplish in life. I have sensed people look for a step by step manual, with every kind of detail about what they must do but life is too ambiguous to follow any such manual. Some people may consider me wise and/or have hopes for me, seeing me as some kind of savior, but in fact I am not particularly driven by this and people may have to take part themselves and be so to say collaborators. Then there is also people who consider me like a someone with delusions of grandeur, that I have desires to be recognized as "the mighty prophet of Immanuel" for my own vanity or wishing to feel important, they even insult me for it. If they only knew how much I have to strive in order to even motivate myself to even do what this Immanuel should do, they might reconsider their opinion, it is not like I deceive anyone in order to be recognized as a particular rank.
My greatest issue, from my honest confession, what troubles me the most is how tired I am, tired of humans, tired of living, the etching tiredness has grown over the years and it does not have to do with the clinical condition of being depressed. I fight with myself not looking with disdain every single time I see a human who acts mentally lifelessly. This disdain is verging on arrogance, but it also wears me down. I see victims around me, I see lifeless subjects and I see few people who even have any kind of developmental direction, and sometimes I see people who I think have potential of people who seek me but who later become averse because I do not change my knowledge according to their opinions and beliefs.
But I also see some light in the darkness, certain people who come here, who are very subtle and quiet, but who wonder what has happened and why the project seems to remain the same after months of inactivity. They give me some sense of purpose and willingness to help, while some people only call this an impulse of my own vanity to be recognized as someone special. I am sad to tell I am easily tired, worn out and may be easily affected, helpless people is the worst kind of discouragement to me.
So this post turned out to be a big wall of text again, but perhaps someone has the patience to read it through.
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Post by rekkd on Aug 16, 2018 22:39:19 GMT
So much useful information here! Almost impossible to implement..... sadly
I’m so sick of life too Immanuel, you are not alone. I feel so sick of living in this meaningless life!! Everyday we suffer and people think it’s a gift, life is a gift.
Sometimes I wish I would die, but I’m worried I might come back to this hell. Develop is the anwer? Wish it was easier done than said.
Your wall of texts have changed my life so keep at it, I check the forum almost daily, however, I’m not much of a writer myself. Thus, I dont write much and just ask specific questions when I am looking for answers.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 8:51:15 GMT
I try to keep it somewhat substantial when I write my walls of text, but it is obviously easy to not reach where you aimed and be too ambitious. Not every person appreciates a heavy amount of text to read. I try to do my best to paragraph the text as good as I can.
Make a gradual effort to implement what is required to progress. It is not impossible, but keeping to thinking something is impossible will make it impossible and one has to some extent given up already. The goal is to take control over one's mind and this is surely not impossible, it only requires devotion and knowing and having confidence it is possible. By this time I have repeated what has to be done like a parrot but the solution is plain abstinence, abstinence from the calls of the animalistic instinct. The main list as parroted is this:
1. Group identity 2. Stereotypes 3. Vanity 4. Preoccupation (with worldly matters) 5. Care for oneself and the closest of kin and nationality 6. Domination 7. Sexual thinking / mating 8. Greed - Acquire things dubiously 9. Exaggeration of reality - Erroneous depiction (to get advantages / cheating by beautifying the truth) 10. Want to have what your neighbor has - Typical phenomenon in society, to get the equal what your neighbor has - a rally for status within the group
This is the philosophical background for the classical Ten Commandments below:
1. Adhere/be devoted to Yeheweh Elahem - meaning "To Be One (of) Those Who Are Being" 2. Do not take an image/model and be devoted to it - image/model = something similar to a stereotype if translating it better, this is the image it refers to 3. Do not take the call to a Being/an existence (or Those Who Are Being) in vain 4. Keep the Sabbateh - meaning contemplation, being in reflection/puzzlement 5. Care for your neighbor as your own 6. Do not dominate/subdue (traditionally a mistranslation of a word given to mean kill) 7. Do not commit sexual excess (Eysua's interpretation: "do not even look upon a woman with desire") - The adultery translation is poor, it refers to instinctive sexual attraction overall avoidance in order not to trigger the instinct which has a dousing effect on the mind and control - requires quite drastic countermeasures by a person who seeks to uphold it because this instinct is strong 8. Do not aquire by dubious means - to exploit rules or no rules to acquire things is the same as stealing - it is referring to the instinct of greed 9. Do not carry false testimony - i.e. do not misrepresent the true account of anything including who you are or what you got 10. Do not covet your neighbor's... things, status, job et cetera - Got to do with the instinct of pursuing what others have of perceived success
As you can see, food and drink intake is not accounted for by the Ten Commandments and it is not. Excessive intake goes under the vanity heading, and obviously a vain, unnecessary intake is driven by the instinct. Logic applies to food and the body will be unhealthy by an excessive intake.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 11:22:20 GMT
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 14:49:18 GMT
Hello Immannuel, Hello Rekkd, and Hello to everyone who might be reading. I would also add that a developed Being would act to other human beings, with kindness and care/empathy/understanding-tinking, because as we know from the Genesis God breathed of his spirit into ADAM. And by logical thinking, every human that The Developed Being faces in his life, be it a Spaniard, Swede, Nigerian, Russian etc. All of them have the spirit of God within them. So my question is would anyone who believes in God/Creator, punch God? Yell at God? Get angry at God? Be impatient with God? Be arrogant with God? That's why Iasaus said : But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. The word that translates as Brother in this verse is the following : ἀδελφός, Transliteration: adelphos. In strong lexicon it means the following: 1.) a brother (whether born of the same two parents, or only of the same father or the same mother). 2.) having the same national ancestor, belonging to the same people, countryman. 3.) an associate in employment or office. And many other, but the same messages are that it means people who are bound together, and ultimately all people are ADAM(part of the same porject/experiment), so they are bound together by their creation and their mission. What very, very interesting is that according to the website www.blueletterbible.org, this word is from the root word ἄλφα (G1) (as a connective particle) and delphus (the womb). And I would guess people hwew know about the quote "I am the Alpha and Omega" from the book of revelation, which is said to be a quote uttered by Christ/God himself, which is at least believed in Christianity. Which again, might imply that the follow human beings share the same spirit, soul origin , The God.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 17:27:31 GMT
Hello,
Actually, what I think concerning alpha and omega is that its intended meaning is like saying "the beginning and the end" as in the Greek alphabet alpha is the first letter and omega the last. Whatever Eysua intended with the saying, if it even was his words since he spoke Aramaic, might be hidden within a poor translation.
Interestingly the Greeks call the first letter Alpha which is very similar to the Alef of Semitic languages. Through the Innate Letter Meanings (ILM) we know the letter stands for "be", the symbol of being.
Perhaps coincidental, but عد ('ad) means add, what is added unto. Apparently, the English addition, add, may stem from Semitic languages. It means to count or account for something. Mostly used as "consider" (or add up, make consensus of) in the book called Quran I am working on.
There is a (mind) seed in each human, but it does not necessarily mean it is developed into something. But they are always nothing other than what you were yourself.
Domination, bad treatment, is generally driven by the instinct.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 17:57:05 GMT
So, Immanuel, You want to say that bad treatment and domination can be driven by something other than homo-sapien-instincts? If it so then, if that's the case the domination and bad treatment is allowed because it is not driven by instinctual thinking?
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 18:11:05 GMT
What I mean is, you can decide consciously to be dominant as a thinking process based on a judgment of logic, but generally dominance is something driven by the instinct. Each person can do just about anything, it is like a sandbox. However, the ulterior motive of most humans is drawn from an instinctive source.
But an action can be based on mental processes entirely independent of instinctive influence and from thoughts. There is always a risk to act based on assessment as the situation is not always as it seems and hence one has to be perfectly logical to the thinking. Humans can and should judge for themselves with their judgment, this is part of helping one to develop, but every thought must be based on sound logic, and the instinct should be kept out including the emotions that may reveal themselves from it.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 18:16:08 GMT
So it is not like if one wants to associate himself with God, that must be a pacifist. So if for example one bases his choice 100% due to logic, even if the choice will harm others than it is ok? So the end justifies the means? Just like this earth reality which is filled with suffering, pain and other "unpleasant" experiences, however, the end (in this case the production of independent total Beings) justifies this earths existence?
So if one, for example, decides to sleep with someone knowing that by doing this one can get a well-paid job for example, and by getting this well-paid job one can feed his/her children properly and give them a good education (a more stable life), than it is ok to do that?
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 18:22:07 GMT
In addition, can it also mean that some individuals who are notoriously recognized as "evil/bad", might be 3 heads ahead, in terms of their Beings-development? Even if from the "eyes" of the homo-sapiens animal, it is cruel, unfair, manipulative and etc.
Also, it seems like the homo-sapiens do not like when one individual starts to gain confidence and development in themselves, these people get called arrogant/selfish/egoistic/cold, less human so to speak by the masses. This leads to another phenomenon, where when this realized being shows his/her superiority, the masses try to make this person stay "humble", however, the paradox being, is that the same masses are ok in worshipping God, where they make themselves inferior.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 18:29:15 GMT
And example of dominance based on decision-making is the co-traveler of Muse, who decides to lecture the young man whose parents are sad to see him so unruly. This is a situation when one of the Ten Commandments is violated for an anticipated result which is "the lesser of two evils".
This behavior is then frown upon by Muse who inflexibly follows the Ten Commandments while the co-traveler answers: "Did I not tell you that you would not have any patience with me?"
Basically what the lesson teaches is to have a sound judgment, not slavishly follow rules. And it teaches that everything is not always as it seems and there can be underlying reasons to matters.
The Ten Commandments or directives are not zealous laws but guidelines against what Satan i.e. the instinct drives a person to. And if to cross the territory shared by the beastly instinct one has to be careful and always think twice or even thrice.
For example, before you rush in and discipline someone's child you need to anticipate what effect it will have and if the action is effective at all. And you need to reflect upon what to say and how to act. And in the end, especially if it does not work and you meet resistance, the instinct should not kick in and make you act aggressively due to the instinct of defeating which often is charged by someone's taunting. When someone is taunting it is harder for a human to let go and to use the mind because the flow of hormones may cloud your thinking. A sign of progress is when you can use your mind clearly in a heated situation and control it.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 18:43:59 GMT
An example of logic is; one person is about to kill 100 humans and you can beat the person so that he does not manage to do so and then you did violate the commandment, but it was perfectly valid to do it. But oftentimes it is questionable whether to interfere in human instinctive living, like the dead are fighting the dead, it is usually best to just stay outside of what humans are up to unless your action may have any lasting effect.
David did subdue Goliath and David followed the Ten Commandments.
Summary is, the Ten Commandments are not meant to make a person a pacifist. And they are not part of a zealous law.
But one has to always reflect on whether their action has any meaningful impact on the timeline.
You should not become angry as anger gives the emotion to dominate and so the source trigger of domination is anger. This is why Eysua says that you should not even be angry with your brother lest fight with him. Anger has already triggered the instinct which then leads on to thoughts of domination which then often gives an outburst of anger. This is why I tend to say one should not be emotional. But it does not mean you cannot feel happy or feel sorrow, but no emotion should cloud your thinking.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 18:55:18 GMT
Is a well-paid job not vanity? The thought of feeding his children is activation of the 5th commandent's relevance. And you do it so that you can have the same status as other people of what they have so you also fail at the tenth commandment. You fail at the first and the second commandment of being part of the community in a stereotype. Your idea fails at several commandments simultaneously.
You take part in a hopeless capitalism where a small minority controls the greater majority. What kind of meaning will your work do?
Eysua spoke out about being conformist and rebuked it.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 19:11:26 GMT
In addition, can it also mean that some individuals who are notoriously recognized as "evil/bad", might be 3 heads ahead, in terms of their Beings-development? Even if from the "eyes" of the homo-sapiens animal, it is cruel, unfair, manipulative and etc. Also, it seems like the homo-sapiens do not like when one individual starts to gain confidence and development in themselves, these people get called arrogant/selfish/egoistic/cold, less human so to speak by the masses. This leads to another phenomenon, where when this realized being shows his/her superiority, the masses try to make this person stay "humble", however, the paradox being, is that the same masses are ok in worshipping God, where they make themselves inferior. I have encountered this phenomenon myself. It seems people tend to believe in the stories from the past, but it appears impossible for them to fathom that the supernatural is active in their own contemporary time. When I proclaimed that I have enough confidence to understand that I am Immanuel, interpreting scriptures like the ones they usually call prophets, then quite some people have become quite averse towards me. They say I have similar to delusions of grandeur. People cannot accept I have some exceptional perception and conscious awareness. I have been call arrogant, repugnant and what not. Much is because I can say something with absolute certainty and I can depict the supernatural exactly as it is, because I have insight and I have even communicated with Elahem directly, first hand, and I have been shown manifestly I am someone out of the ordinary. I was spoken knowledge straight to me, and what I teach is based on that knowledge. But many people seem stuck at worshiping their god or their gods, too disoriented to understand. That or they do not believe in anything supernatural at all. Few people found the middleway. What the god worshipers do not seem to understand is that this world is a development ground for such who they worship, and their worship is meaningless for Elahem has no need for it.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 20:09:42 GMT
Immanuel, I see your logic, yes radicalism in any way or shape of form of its manifestation is usually not the proper path. The true path is the narrow path. Not too much to the right, or left, or up, or down, right in the keyhole. One can shove the key into the door for an eternity, but only when one shoves/inserts the key right into the keyhole, one can open the door. This is one of the allegories of mines for this earthly-reality.
In addition, by analyzing the humans, I can see that some humans are very wise at a very young age, while others are not even wise at an adult age. This again I think shows that when a developed spirit`s human body dies, and this spirit for some reasons didn't become complete at the time of the death of the body, and when this spirit again borns in a new human body, the development of the spirit is not lost. It looks like the actual "age" of the human-animal, has no ultimate responsibility of how much the mind is developed. Again there being a 10-year-olds who are "wise beyond their age" and human adults who are not-so-wise so to speak.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 20:19:33 GMT
However, I think that a Being, even a developed Being wants/has the need to feel important/valuable.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 20:24:55 GMT
You are correct. Souls are reincarnated in a new flesh unless 'with a condition of being totally complete'* and hence much difference between people. The Semitic term Jehennom means "attachment to the bodily", it contains the root Jiim-Nun-(Nun) which refers to the skin/coating/bodily of something. It is allegedly eternal according to people, well it is very long lasting for many people
(* On a side note, the meaning of the Quranic phrase b'esm allah al-Rahman al-Raheem)
Unfortunately, most people are dead, like wandering husks and there is virtually no probability they are ever going to make it. Some people may appear intelligent, but their bodies are only good at saving information and they are not particularly alive. There are people with PhD who are not something to consider totally complete. It takes some realization to understand it.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 20:30:40 GMT
However all the instincts of the homo-sapien/body aside, that I have to have control over. I for example like the feel of importance, but not in the way that I feel I'm superior to others, even if I realize that I might have superiority in regards of mental capability, but I never(try my best, or I would like tbelieveve so, Because it seems like I do give a slack so to speak, and of course sometimes let the homo-sapien/body/animal loose) let myself to make me act or feel that I'm better then the person next to me. However, again, I do strive for importance and being worth something in the eyes of myself, that I'm unique so to speak. Again, it seems like a paradox, but again, it seems like there is a thin line between the wrong and the other wrong, so the rightful carefulness is the key it seems or one of the keys so to speak.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 20:47:17 GMT
However, I think that a Being, even a developed Being wants/has the need to feel important/valuable. Obviously anyone needs to sense they have a purpose and that their existence does make any difference. This is why a worldly life with ignorance of the true origin can easily be recognized as lackluster concerning that.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 17, 2018 21:02:11 GMT
However all the instincts of the homo-sapien/body aside, that I have to have control over. I for example like the feel of importance, but not in the way that I feel I'm superior to others, even if I realize that I might have superiority in regards of mental capability, but I never(try my best, or I would like tbelieveve so, Because it seems like I do give a slack so to speak, and of course sometimes let the homo-sapien/body/animal loose) let myself to make me act or feel that I'm better then the person next to me. However, again, I do strive for importance and being worth something in the eyes of myself, that I'm unique so to speak. Again, it seems like a paradox, but again, it seems like there is a thin line between the wrong and the other wrong, so the rightful carefulness is the key it seems or one of the keys so to speak. The question is about the priorities and what is regarded as importance. Pursuing something worldly when you are soon anyways going to die is quite tragic is it not? Your body, items and whatsoever connected to that body is nothing you will bring with you, disregarding whether you are reincarnated in the flesh or if you reached the state of absolute completion, the physical things have no meaning beyond the setting they were in. Throughout your life you may gather things for no reason at all leaving them all behind. There is no issue with realizing one is superior and with that knowing one is above others mentally, that is a mere fact and it cannot be helped. The issue is when one abuses the superiority, mistreats others and behaves in a belittling way. And then one might feel they are important, but in fact they are meaningless, insignificant and this because this "importance" they perceive has no relevance in the greater picture and is just an imagined importance. There are things which are truly matters of importance, but not everyone knows of them.
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Post by hftwo on Aug 17, 2018 21:17:03 GMT
"Pursuing something worldly when you are soon anyways going to die is quite tragic is it not?" . Well, people would argue by saying that while they are here alive in their bodies, they would like to live in a pleasant/beautiful/comfortable house for example, or having a beautiful hat, not to sexually attract someone but just to decorate the body for one's own satisfaction/sense of unique style for example. Again it seems like there is a thin line. I mean if one could have a choice living in a "bad" neighbourhood but one will pay 30 dollars per month or living in a much more civilized neighbourhood where one needs to pay 100 dollars per month, I think logically speaking there is a difference.
It seems like unless the choices you make are not to impress others or to gain a higher status among others, there is nothing wrong in wanting to surround yourself in beauty rather in ugliness so to speak. Beauty, health etc. are objectively speaking superior to ugliness, sickness etc. , no?
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