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Faith
Nov 18, 2017 14:28:02 GMT
Post by cerulean on Nov 18, 2017 14:28:02 GMT
the traditional faith is generally the belief that things will work out, and that all things that YOU WISH will come (miraculously with time or something like that) and it pushes you to WAIT + HOPE.
However I'm more and more inclined to believe that we are on our own in this world and thus that old definition no longer applies. I believe faith is to KNOW that THERE IS A WAY if and only if you follow the right/follow God.
Faith in my opinion is the firm knowledge that following the way is the right thing to do. It is does not really promise you of a reward, and if it did then you'd be hoping for that reward. But hoping for a reward is not really right to do. Even hoping for a "thank you" from someone is a very mediocre thing to do. So I don't believe Faith entails knowledge that there is "happiness" at the end of the road.
Anyways this is a little talk to introduce a discussion about Faith and what it implies and maybe how to work on it.
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Faith
Nov 18, 2017 19:38:34 GMT
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Post by Immanuel on Nov 18, 2017 19:38:34 GMT
Hello friend,
You are absolutely right in saying wait and hope is irrelevant. It is not about believing in "God", merely believing in "God" is not worth anything in particular but understanding the purpose of your existence is. This forum tries to convey this point and if it does not sufficiently well it is my fault and I hope further explanation will help.
You can say believing in the supernatural is only an initial beginning and not worth anything towards your solution (salvation) because it involves proper taken action. Life is about realizing yourself as a Being. It is about finding yourself in order to attain God, as Eysua/Jesua said.
The word Amen/Amin has sadly been twisted into meaning what it does not. Amen has nothing to do with belief but it is about a person's reality, their realization. The latest research of mine reveals that. It is obvious from seeing how Eysua uses the word when trying to get the attention of his listeners (amen amen I tell you) and he says "realize", something like "make your understanding/reality" and people of old in tradition end their prayers with amen without knowing why, because they probably forgot why. They end the prayers because it says, make/realize it so or even "be it so", i.e. let it be their reality.
So no, Amen has nothing to do with belief and believing, but it is about something real. I had different theories about the phrase "amen b'allah" before, but realized it simply means "realize the Being" meaning you make Being the reality. What Being means is hopefully clear by some study of what I am telling, even if I sometimes may try to hard in getting the point across with an excessive amounts of text as a result.
So what is required of each and every one of us is to realize ourselves, make ourselves real. We have an innate seed in ourselves which needs conception and growth and must develop, or otherwise we are basically just the lowly creature in which we were put into the Earth and nothing more. We can be so much more if we just have the confidence we can and accept it.
Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Faith
Nov 18, 2017 19:44:48 GMT
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Post by Immanuel on Nov 18, 2017 19:44:48 GMT
The reward you are acquiring yourself through a realization of yourself.
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Faith
Nov 19, 2017 0:28:05 GMT
Post by yes on Nov 19, 2017 0:28:05 GMT
To progress its probably right to stop any addictive nature like nicotine. But I do find it a struggle as it gives a 'hit' or triggers some satisfaction/fulfillment as well as escapism.
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Faith
Dec 13, 2017 10:53:30 GMT
Post by Immanuel on Dec 13, 2017 10:53:30 GMT
To progress its probably right to stop any addictive nature like nicotine. But I do find it a struggle as it gives a 'hit' or triggers some satisfaction/fulfillment as well as escapism. Well, addiction is an autonomous driving and so resisting this is similar to other forms of autonomy which I teach should be avoided. It does not necessarily have to turn into exaggeration, but general abstention is wise and it supports mental growth and the more you abstain of autonomy the better your mind can grow and in case you bring in simply too much of autonomy you may even stall your development and this happens easily because the Earth was made to corrupt (break down) its subjects. When we talk about exaggeration, there are some things which are unavoidable such as the consumption of food and drink in order to continue to live and so you are basically forced to align to the autonomous driving no matter if you want it or not. Hunger is also a kind of addiction-like condition, but if you resist the instinct of hunger you will inevitably die eventually. You may however, think about what you eat and why you eat. Sugar is basically a drug and more or less unnecessary to eat, but it gives a rush, so-called sugar rush and it is highly addictive and an eating behavior which is easy to fall back to. Humans seem to have some sort of dwelling wish to intoxicate themselves and all this is because we seek hormone rushes, we are slaves to hormone rushes and not only physical additives cause hormone rushes. Drugs are often a quick way to achieve very intense hormone rushes and this is fundamentally why we take them and why it is so hard to resist doing the same again. It is enslaving behavior. Our main concern should be to stop chasing those hormone rushes and know what is under the surface of mere substance addiction. Be well Qarael Amenuel
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Faith
Dec 31, 2017 14:56:31 GMT
Post by maveli on Dec 31, 2017 14:56:31 GMT
To progress its probably right to stop any addictive nature like nicotine. But I do find it a struggle as it gives a 'hit' or triggers some satisfaction/fulfillment as well as escapism. Well, addiction is an autonomous driving and so resisting this is similar to other forms of autonomy which I teach should be avoided. It does not necessarily have to turn into exaggeration, but general abstention is wise and it supports mental growth and the more you abstain of autonomy the better your mind can grow and in case you bring in simply too much of autonomy you may even stall your development and this happens easily because the Earth was made to corrupt (break down) its subjects. It would be also noteworthy to add that many people start consuming drugs due to real-life events, like stress, loss, depression and so on. So even if they realize that drugs (including legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco) can be harmful for them and also that corporations make money off their health, they can still consume unhealthy foods and drugs because it helps them to get their mind of the problems they have. Addiction itself is not a hard task to quit, myself I used to be a smoker for years, but then gave it up rather easily after learning something concerning smoking, and I did not even experience any urging to smoke for some time. But I used to have urges to smoke after not getting enough rest and having stress, so you can see an apparent correlation. This is how I see it: unhealthy habit > unability to cope with real-life problems > addiction. Addiction is basically a habit, which has developed to the point that it takes up a substantial amount of everyday time of an 'addicted' person. In some severe cases addiction can be preserved in the brain's hypothalamus, this is when a person becomes permanently 'addicted'. It does not mean that a person may not get rid of a habit, but the brain will always remember its effect and a person can easily get back to the habit once a certain trigger is successful in triggering the reaction in the brain that will cause a person to perform habitual things. So in order to abstein from pretty much anything that may potentially grow into an unhealthy addiction one has to learn to minimize the effect of stuff, which does not let you focus on your life and instead distracts you. This could be many things but among them I can outline: 1. Stress - to avoid stress leading you to consume unhealthy substances or doing vane activities try finding healthy and meaningful alternatives, which will allow you to preserve energy yet get enough rest and release the stress. Sports like swimming and running are obvious choices. You will get tired but you will feel healthy and it will decrease your stress so you can get back to doing what you have to do without trying to consume stuff that may lead to unhealthy habits and will not decrease your stress. If you cannot do sports due to physiological reasons or your overall health does not allow you, try finding better options like having a two-hour walk in the forest to get enough fresh air et cetera. 2. Depression - that is complicated to advice what you have to do to successfully combat one, since causes of depression are unique for each person, there is no ultimate "cure" because this is not a disease in common definition. You need to find what exactly is causing it so you can build up strategy to decrease its influence on you. One major cause of depression is having a feeling of not having a purpsose in life, or living a pointless life, and it might actually be complicated to find purpose especially if the alternatives can be as well be regarded as meaningless; 3. Feeling remorse over something you have done or are doing; 4. Having too much work, too less healthy rest / also being preoccupied with work, can easily lead to a pot and or a beer or two per night; 5. Not being able to substitute meaningless things with something, which for you personally contains a meaning. As such, if a person fails to see meaning in his/her everyday activities, they may soon seek alternative activities to cease that feeling of meaningless, including drugs or doing all sort of vane activities, which can grow into a habit. So once you are happy with your life and you genuinely believe to have a purpose in your life you should have no problem with giving up bad foods despite your 'love' for it, or cigarrets, or other drugs, or video games or pretty much anything that you may regard as unhealthy or otherwise detrimental to your being. However, if you are not satisfied with your life and/or are depressed then you should work on what causes your depression and try to work things out, otherwise you might look for something to substitute your feeling of meaningless or misery with some pointless and/or unhealthy stuff just to take up your time space. When I quit smoking years ago, it was only possible when I changed some thing in my life, which I lacked, such as finding a right job and finally finding a purpose in life, which I did not have and therefore I had no apparent reason to quit smoking, because I would be simply torturing myself for not having a cigarrete, since life was boring. But when its changed the purpose in smoking simply ceased to exist, it was simply something that was unhealthy, consumed money and was otherwise pointless unless I wanted to die by 30. It is not even about perserving your life actually, but overall staying healthy so I could focus on other things in life, including work and solving problems, which require energy, which in turn is absent if you constantly feel weak and unhealthy due to poor lifestyle.
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Faith
Dec 31, 2017 16:13:57 GMT
Post by Immanuel on Dec 31, 2017 16:13:57 GMT
t would be also noteworthy to add that many people start consuming drugs due to real-life events, like stress, loss, depression and so on. So even if they realize that drugs (including legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco) can be harmful for them and also that corporations make money off their health, they can still consume unhealthy foods and drugs because it helps them to get their mind of the problems they have. Addiction itself is not a hard task to quit, myself I used to be a smoker for years, but then gave it up rather easily after learning something concerning smoking, and I did not even experience any urging to smoke for some time. But I used to have urges to smoke after not getting enough rest and having stress, so you can see an apparent correlation. I have noticed that different people have different levels of difficulty to quit substance abuse, so you generalize it a little too much and I have known several people to do the same. So what is the logic behind substance abuse? Well, I would argue that substances affect each subject the same although various people have different tolerance levels. What matters is also the dosage and the time frame during which consumption has been taking place. So what makes it easier for some people to quit drugs while for some people it seems almost like an impossibility? Now we may probably come down to mental strength and the difference between mind and body, and for the one with a more developed mind and control, substance addiction may be easier to overcome, because the improved willpower will contribute to the determination to quit the substance abuse. This is the only really logical explanation because our brains are in essence not different enough to provide another explanation, because evidently some people are stuck with drugs, while other people can just decide to quit and they do so. Hand on my heart, I am one of those who can seemingly indulge in addictive substances, not experience any particular addiction and so I can stick with the narcotics for some time, but I can also quit them instantaneously. But I do experience "diminishing returns" (body getting used to the substance and requiring more) and this is a natural reaction for the body and it happens with an as simply drug as sugar. And no, I am not using drugs and I have not been taking anything for years. Drugs also have only a nominal effect on me and I must use such quantities that it becomes risky biologically. I would assume mental development affects the susceptibility to various drug infused characteristics. Logic says the mental fatigue makes it harder than otherwise to resist the substance, in this case nicotine, but it is not the tireless mind which causes it but because the mind to body control is weakened. Be well Q. A. A.
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Dec 31, 2017 17:06:45 GMT
Post by maveli on Dec 31, 2017 17:06:45 GMT
t would be also noteworthy to add that many people start consuming drugs due to real-life events, like stress, loss, depression and so on. So even if they realize that drugs (including legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco) can be harmful for them and also that corporations make money off their health, they can still consume unhealthy foods and drugs because it helps them to get their mind of the problems they have. Addiction itself is not a hard task to quit, myself I used to be a smoker for years, but then gave it up rather easily after learning something concerning smoking, and I did not even experience any urging to smoke for some time. But I used to have urges to smoke after not getting enough rest and having stress, so you can see an apparent correlation. So what makes it easier for some people to quit drugs while for some people it seems almost like an impossibility? I would argue the same reason why for some people it is almost festive to go to gym and they do it regularly and do not need any motivation to do it, while for others it takes huge amount of motivation and even if they manage to go to gym one or two times they can easily stop doing it after few times. The reason is the overall motivational factors, which are external. Say one person is overweight, hates himself, his wife, and overall his life. He would like to change this but his overall lifestyle is not predisposed to stay fit and his motivation is vague. For others, it is almost like a drug to go to gym. In fact, doing excessive amounts of sports and the hormones associated with it can play the same role drugs play for a brain. So when a person who is overweight sees some progress it will be much more easier for him/her to continue going to gym because he/she would know it actually changes his 'shape' and makes progress. The thing is, it is varied as to how various people gain weight and, in contrary, lose weight and in turn gain muscle mass. Mental strength alone has little to do with substance abuse and habit/addictive habit, unless you have developed it over years, but then again the mechanism of acquiring and cesaing habits/addictions is not affected by mental strength, because the process of developing habits and trying to quit itself is not rational, it is with the unconscious. Willpower, for instance, only allows you to stop substance abuse for a while but it will give up evenrtually and the person ends up torturing himself by not letting himself consume substances. Logic also has nothign to do with quiting addictions. I realized perfectly logical why my body wants to smoke and why it is detrimental for my health, it did not help until I developed knowledge and changed my lifestyle. And when I did it became easy since now it was like having a useless parasite in life and spending resources to keep it active, and the new life itself did not benefit from having a substance of a parasite continue being a part of it. So health concern alone was never an enough factor for me to quit smoking, since without smoking life was boring before. For others it could be other factors among those that I have listed, but also some other factors I did not list, I only listed some of the major factors that are associated with addictive behavior. In fact I am not sure if there is a possibility to actually develop levels of willpower and if there is even a way to measure one. I believe willpower is quite a subjective meaning. Yet changes happened when external factors were changed, such as overall lifestyle, which provided motivation and/or changed priorities. I also developed knowledge about drugs, especially nicotine, their effects and the reason for popularity of nicotine in society. This helped me to stop smoking. So I basically changed my perspective on knowledge and also changed some external lifestyle factors and the new life basically did not need nicotine, it was useless to continue smoking. Again, no willpower had anything to do with this, because I barely even had any urge to smoke since then, unlike all the previous times I tried to cease smoking, it was pain and I did not achieve no matter how hard I tried, because the overall strategy and pespective were wrong.
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Dec 31, 2017 18:32:03 GMT
Post by Immanuel on Dec 31, 2017 18:32:03 GMT
I would argue the same reason why for some people it is almost festive to go to gym and they do it regularly and do not need any motivation to do it, while for others it takes huge amount of motivation and even if they manage to go to gym one or two times they can easily stop doing it after few times. The reason is the overall motivational factors, which are external. Say one person is overweight, hates himself, his wife, his wife. He would like to change this but his overall lifestyle is not predisposed to stay fit and his motivation is vague. For others, it is almost like a drug to go to gym. In fact, doing excessive amounts of sports and the hormones associated with it can play the same role drugs play for a brain. So when a person who is overweight sees some progress it will be much more easier for him/her to continue going to gym because he/she would know it actually changes his 'shape' and makes progress. The thing is, it is varied as to how various people gain weight and, in contrary, lose weight and in turn gain muscle mass. It is true. I have nothing to object against it. It is logical. Mental strength alone has little to do with substance abuse and habit/addictive habit, unless you have developed it over years, but even then the mechanism of acquiring and cesaing habits/addictions is not affected by mental strength, because the process of developing habits and trying to quit itself is not rational, it is with the unconscious. Willpower, for instance, only allows you to stop substance abuse for a while but it will give up evenrtually and the person ends up torturing himself by not letting himself consume substances. Logic also has nothign to do with quiting addictions. I realized perfectly logical why my body wants to smoke and why it is detrimental for my help, it did not help until I developed knowledge and changed my lifestye. And when I did it became easy since now it was like having a useless parasite in life and spending resources to keep it alive, and the new life itself did not benefit from having a substance of a parasite continue being a part of it. So health concern alone was never an enough factor for me to quit smoking, since without smoking life was boring before. For others it could be other factos among those that I have listed, but also some other factors I did not list, these are the major factors. Mental strength has a lot to do with it, unless your unless means you have developed mental strength in your statement. There are many people who know it is dangerous to smoke, but they cannot do it because they are so addicted to it and so they are mentally weak to accomplish to quit it. Your changed life conditions enabled you to stop smoking and it was those life changes which made your mind thrive better and so you were strong enough to stop. Logic surely has a finger in everything. You were illogical because you say "I realized perfectly logical why my body wants to smoke and why it is detrimental for my help" and so you knew it was bad logically, but you still continued to smoke and therefore you were behaving illogically due to the body and its desires. It was logical to stop smoking because the substance (smoke) does pollute your lungs and is destructive on your whole body in general. You must eventually understand that: Logic of = the know-how and total knowledge of something. Flawed logic = Incorrect knowledge and therefore a faulty opinion about something, not factually correct. This is why logic is utterly objective and there is no room for subjectivity and it is its strength over anything else. This is why logic can so coldly say you were behaving illogically, because despite knowing it is detrimental to your body since if you were logical then you would immediately have stopped, but your body prevented you and you behaved irrationally. This is where logic can prove two different forces are going on in you, the mind and the body. According to the bodily nature, you were behaving naturally and therefore it was logical for you to continue smoking, but your mind was making illogical choices and it is because it was too weak to resist. A human has two conflicting parameters in themselves; the mind and the body, which causes there to be "two sets of logic" for each entity and here it has to do with the strength of either one of them, hence I told mental strength is involved. In fact I am not sure if there is a possibility to actually develop levels of willpower and if there is even a way to measure one. I believe willpower is quite a subjective meaning. Not at all, willpower is entirely objective, it is the strength of the mind, the mental capability. Bottom down, the level of Being is equal to the strength of the mind. You can measure willpower by seeing how much control a human has over themselves. This is because mind and body are two different things, two different logical parameters. Yet changes happened when external factors were changed, such as overall lifestyle, which provided motivation and/or changed priorities. I also developed knowledge about drugs, especially nicotine, their effects and the reason for popularity of nicotine in society. This helped me to stop smoking. So I basically changed my perspective on knowledge and also changed some external lifestyle factors and the new life basically did not need nicotine, it was useless to continue smoking. Again, no willpower had anything to do with this, because I barely even had any urge to smoke since then, unlike all the previous times I tried to cease smoking, it was pain and I did not achieve no matter how hard I tried, because the overall strategy and pespective were wrong. It did stimulate mental growth which made you stronger on a conscious level, so much the mind stood above the narcotic's effect. I have experienced a similar thing, no drug does affect me these days, even the substances which are classified quite heavy drugs. The drug does have a different effect on people depending on their mental condition. The weak-minded are more susceptible. I am sure that over the time you are talking about, your mental facility has been developed and you have become more Being. Be well Q. A. A.
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Faith
Dec 31, 2017 19:40:52 GMT
Post by maveli on Dec 31, 2017 19:40:52 GMT
Mental strength alone has little to do with substance abuse and habit/addictive habit, unless you have developed it over years, but even then the mechanism of acquiring and cesaing habits/addictions is not affected by mental strength, because the process of developing habits and trying to quit itself is not rational, it is with the unconscious. Willpower, for instance, only allows you to stop substance abuse for a while but it will give up evenrtually and the person ends up torturing himself by not letting himself consume substances. Logic also has nothign to do with quiting addictions. I realized perfectly logical why my body wants to smoke and why it is detrimental for my help, it did not help until I developed knowledge and changed my lifestye. And when I did it became easy since now it was like having a useless parasite in life and spending resources to keep it alive, and the new life itself did not benefit from having a substance of a parasite continue being a part of it. So health concern alone was never an enough factor for me to quit smoking, since without smoking life was boring before. For others it could be other factos among those that I have listed, but also some other factors I did not list, these are the major factors. Mental strength has a lot to do with it, unless your unless means you have developed mental strength in your statement. There are many people who know it is dangerous to smoke, but they cannot do it because they are so addicted to it and so they are mentally weak to accomplish to quit it. Your changed life conditions enabled you to stop smoking and it was those life changes which made your mind thrive better and so you were strong enough to stop. Logic surely has a finger in everything. You were illogical because you say "I realized perfectly logical why my body wants to smoke and why it is detrimental for my help" and so you knew it was bad logically, but you still continued to smoke and therefore you were behaving illogically due to the body and its desires. It was logical to stop smoking because the substance (smoke) does pollute your lungs and is destructive on your whole body in general. You must eventually understand that: Logic of = the know-how and total knowledge of something. Flawed logic = Incorrect knowledge and therefore a faulty opinion about something, not factually correct. This is why logic is utterly objective and there is no room for subjectivity and it is its strength over anything else. This is why logic can so coldly say you were behaving illogically, because despite knowing it is detrimental to your body since if you were logical then you would immediately have stopped, but your body prevented you and you behaved irrationally. This is where logic can prove two different forces are going on in you, the mind and the body. According to the bodily nature, you were behaving naturally and therefore it was logical for you to continue smoking, but your mind was making illogical choices and it is because it was too weak to resist. A human has two conflicting parameters in themselves; the mind and the body, which causes there to be "two sets of logic" for each entity and here it has to do with the strength of either one of them, hence I told mental strength is involved. What I meant is that the process of acquiring an addictive habitual condition is obviously subjective. In fact, my knowledge or the level of logic did not stimulate or change the levels of cigarette consumption, it was driven subjectively. If I did not happen to adjust certain lifestye factors, such as finding a job and taking things in my own hands (long story short, I used to follow everything without making my own decisions for a long period of time until I finally said screw it and went to think and act on my own and for myself), it would probably be too hard for me to quit smoking since life was considered pointless and cigarettes somewhat helped me to pass time. In fact, I used to get back smoking after about 6-8 months of not taking a single whiff, due to the fact that some lifestyle factors were worsened so I needed to release the stress, so to speak. And this is where we come to the first point I briefly talked about. Not choosing right and healthy methods to release stress will eventually stimulate consumption in people whose hypothalamus was already 'infected' with habits so it is easy for them to get back to their previous habits which are stored deep in their brains, this is a part of habitual condition. So I understood perfectly well getting back to smoking is a worthless idea, yet I came back to it a while back and then quit again. Otherwise the body will simply urge for something to subsitute stress or depression and this is often vane activities, for most people, like consuming drugs, watching TV or playing video games. Since it takes little to none effort to play a video game instead of going to the pool or gym and actually doing some physical exercise, for instance.
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