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Post by iscariot on Aug 26, 2015 17:56:47 GMT
Hello! Thank you for making this forum, and I hope that many fruitful and informative posts are made here as it progresses. Here is a song I really like:
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Some information which may be interesting regarding my username here (which was chosen for obvious reasons too):
Iscariot is said by some to mean "Man of Murder", a "Hireling", an Assassin. In a metaphorical interpretation, murder or killing is the Death and Destruction of the Ego, which cleanses away the concealing shell and fog of the material/bodily distractions (as in decomposition) and allows what is within to see clearly as the shell falls away. Iscariot has at times been suggested in association with the "Sicarii" a band of Jewish Assassins which occurred in a period of History where they were fighting as terrorists against the Romans "They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination society or cloak and daggers, predating the Middle Eastern assassins and Japanese ninjas by centuries."
"The Latin word sicarii translates to "dagger-wielders", from the root secare Latin for "to slice"; in Roman legal Latin it is the standard plural form of the term for a murderer, or for putting a murderer on trial (see e.g. the Lex Cornelia de Sicariis et Veneficiis)[6] during that period of legal Latin." This can have the metaphorical meaning of "slicing" through the lies to the jugular or life-artery of the issue. The word Saxon is also associated with "dagger wielding" and can be viewed in various metaphorical ways as an epithet.
"c. 1200, from Late Latin Saxonem (nominative Saxo; also source of French Saxon, Spanish Sajon, Italian Sassone), usually found in plural Saxones, from a Germanic source (Old English Seaxe, Old High German Sahsun, German Sachse "Saxon"), with a possible literal sense of "swordsmen" (compare Old English seax, Old Frisian, Old Norse sax "knife, short sword, dagger," Old High German Saxnot, name of a war-god), from Proto-Germanic *sahsam "knife," from PIE *sek- "to cut" (see section (n.)). "
Iscariot has other associations as well. Many think that it may have to do with being from an area called Keriot in Moab. The Moabites are famous for the worship of Chemosh. Chemosh is called Ashtar or in South Arabian Attar or Athar, and was considered the Lord of the Morning Star, but the word Athar itself seems to refer to a Chief, and the association with the Morning Star (which is Venus, but known as the Morning Star in the morning and the Evening Star in the evening, and had names like Lucifer in Latin associated with it) likely due to the appearance of Venus as the "star" or luminary most bright in the sky so their "Leader". In any case, the concept of Ashtar (in Demonology, Ashtaroth) can be taken as a positive connotation for oneself (and the Semitic Kings such as David, and Jesus were known as the Morning Star in the Bible for example as well as others), but also as a name for God.
This sort of free adoption of epithets for God was tolerated by Solomon according to the Bible (who is also associated with Medieval Demonology) but was discouraged strongly by the Jewish people and others who did not always view these titles as YHWH or El Elyon.
"Fifth, the word derives from one of the Aramaic roots סכר or סגר. This would mean "to deliver," based on the LXX rendering of Isaiah 19:4a—a theory advanced by J. Alfred Morin.[39]
Finally, the epithet could be associated with the manner of Judas' death, i.e., hanging. This would mean Iscariot derives from a kind of Greek-Aramaic hybrid: אִסְכַּרְיוּתָא, Iskarioutha, "chokiness" or "constriction." "
The Hangman is an important symbol in association with Odin, which is also tied in association with Attar, since both were related to storms and weather, considered the Chief, and also were associated with death, and Death by Hanging was the very sacred sort of symbol for Odin, associated with enlightenment as well as many other things like being selected by Odin and led by Odin as in a collar and leash for the noose, a "constraining" of the path to make things narrow and be guided and pulled in the right direction and to attain the acknowledgment of Death after the death of the Ego. The Morning Star had been associated with Death and War and Chiefdom as a symbol because it would set in the sky, seemed to be associated with war phenomenon to the people as well as death, and was the brightest luminary in the sky among the stars (who by others at times were all considered "Elohim" in their own right, and God in the Bible is known as the "Father/Pater of the Stars").
This understanding can give a richness to interpreting things, though many of these associations being made are being made to give a certain meaning which may have a beneficial influence. The term Iscariot has long been associated with treachery and betrayal, and this has also been associated with Odin and Ishtar as well as Ashtar-Chemosh, the God of Moab, all of whom would seem to favor the people for a while and then turn on them such as the tides of war or weather, all these being a metaphor ultimately for the fickle nature of Reality which the Aztecs called Teotl.
In the ancient Akkadian world, the term Attar became associated as "The God of Death" whereas in Southern Arabia it was the term for the Chief among the powers. Lucifer means "Light Bearing" and as a metaphorical term can be viewed positively as well, whereas Light is what allows one to see and makes things visible, thus associated with knowledge as well as manifestation such as making things come into existence in the experience of people.
Death is strongly associated with "Fate" or "Destiny", and this luminary was looked to among others in an attempt to predict what was believed to be the course of events guided by a causal chain or immediate control which was not in the hands of the people but where the hands of the people worked in harmony with everything else to bring about this greater complex thread of events (thus associated often with weaving).
In the end, Judas was said to have hung, a final death of the character who has also been theorized as the one who "delivers" due to delivering over Jesus to the people who were to "fulfill the destined prophecy" related to the final salvation in Christian concepts.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 26, 2015 18:52:27 GMT
Hello,
Welcome to the forum. Glad you made your way here to have you with us. Did you find the forum via Free-Minds.org?
It was quite some history background to your name that you brought here. What makes you so interested in a dark character like that? Not that I criticize your choice. You said you chose it for "obvious reasons"...
This forum itself is highly based on that the Holy Spirit of God stems from within a person's self and existence or the Universe itself based on the famous words that God spoke to Moses: "I am who am I" (I AM THAT I AM). YAHEWEH is an early form of this, I have studied the phenomenon in the ancient Aramaic/Hebrew albeit here it refers to first person while in Elohim/Ellah it is third person (plural/singular), and is frequently used in Quran which was hijacked by madmen to present a different faith than the creed of Abraham, Moses and Jesus et cetera. Ellah refers to the person who is Being It, while 'Rabb' in Arabic is the exclusive God address. Under the corruption, Quran presents a faith similar to what Jesus brought approximately 2000 years ago and the famous (infamous to me due to the circumstances) 'la Elah ila Allah' means: "To be it is to be such as it", and Ellah is a grammatical elaboration of the old Elah to clarify deeper that it meaning that one should really be like God based on the Arabic/Aramaic root Alef-Lam-Lam meaning be such as/near as plus the Arabic third person 'ha' ه. The root Alef-Lam-Lam is used in the famous AL article (be such as) and is used with roots to form adjectives and adverbs in Arabic. Morphologically it is (Allah) "Be Such (is) Such It" is a more comprehensive break down of the word in morphemes. It is clearly a third-person form of the ancient "I AM THAT I AM" phrase. I would say Allah is just as mystifying as YAHEWEH and people do not even understand what it means.
Notice that the final words that Jesus said on his execution day started with 'EL' (AL).
More details you can find by browsing the various posts made on this forum so far. They are not that plenty yet, but may help you.
By the way, did you know that Persians say Khoda خدا about God? What most people do not know is that the word stems from their way of talking about one's self. For example, if I am to refer to myself I say: خدم Khodam (although in modern Farsi you add و after خ).
It is forgotten knowledge that the God phenomenon refers to 'I AM'.
Be well Emanuel
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Post by iscariot on Aug 26, 2015 20:56:32 GMT
Oh the more obvious reasons were just because of humor when I saw the name Immanuel being used to give something more controversial, but then there was a great deal of symbolism that could be related with the Iscariot title too as a tool anyway. Yes, I got here from free-minds where it was mentioned.
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 26, 2015 21:07:57 GMT
Hello again,
It is always good with historical backgrounds. Thanks for joining.
I suppose you saw my tag below my posts I added just today. The forum has been online for about one month. I felt it was time to advertise it a little. This forum is has a quite different view on Faith/religion however than Free-Minds. I basically created it because people have almost started a campaign against me and I was nearly threatened by moderators on Free-Minds due to my preachings, so I brought the really controversial posts here instead where they belong, in a forum that encourages 'Being as It' rather than pointless Pagan worship.
Be well Emanuel
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Post by iscariot on Aug 30, 2015 16:54:05 GMT
Wow that is amazing I found it on the day you had just added it! Awesome!
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Post by Immanuel on Aug 30, 2015 18:04:12 GMT
It seemed you were monitoring me closely for every step I take.
Be well Emanuel
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Post by question on Sept 14, 2015 15:29:49 GMT
Hello again, It is always good with historical backgrounds. Thanks for joining. I suppose you saw my tag below my posts I added just today. The forum has been online for about one month. I felt it was time to advertise it a little. This forum is has a quite different view on Faith/religion however than Free-Minds. I basically created it because people have almost started a campaign against me and I was nearly threatened by moderators on Free-Minds due to my preachings, so I brought the really controversial posts here instead where they belong, in a forum that encourages 'Being as It' rather than pointless Pagan worship. Be well Emanuel Peace! Good job, Immanuel. Can you briefly summarize how different this forum view religion from Free-Minds? And can you brief us on your view about the Qur'an or Muhammad? You rarely created topics on Free-Minds and so i could have missed a whole lot of your ideas. By the way, thanks for creating this forum. It looks promising.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 15, 2015 22:30:45 GMT
Hello again, It is always good with historical backgrounds. Thanks for joining. I suppose you saw my tag below my posts I added just today. The forum has been online for about one month. I felt it was time to advertise it a little. This forum is has a quite different view on Faith/religion however than Free-Minds. I basically created it because people have almost started a campaign against me and I was nearly threatened by moderators on Free-Minds due to my preachings, so I brought the really controversial posts here instead where they belong, in a forum that encourages 'Being as It' rather than pointless Pagan worship. Be well Emanuel Peace! Good job, Immanuel. Can you briefly summarize how different this forum view religion from Free-Minds? And can you brief us on your view about the Qur'an or Muhammad? You rarely created topics on Free-Minds and so i could have missed a whole lot of your ideas. By the way, thanks for creating this forum. It looks promising. Hello, And welcome to the forum. First of all, this is not an "Islamic" forum or focused solely on Quran or the sect Islam. Guidance does not only come from that book even though it is a mysterious scripture that does indeed have the "divine" involved with its compilation. But knowledge is always related to the perception of the beholder and Quran gives its view but one can always elaborate on what it teaches as long as it goes along the main principles of what "God" stands for. Quran does not really teach "religious practices" but more of moral conduct in life and how to deal with impulses of the instinctive drive (Satan) and such knowledge. Another very important parameter and difference from Free-Minds is the perception of "God" not as a separate entity alike a "skyman" on the moon; joke aside, a separate deity which is standalone from its creation but God is the foundation or platform of existence. I perceive the expression "I am that am I" as a truthful one to Moses and refers to the fact that if you decide to be the Father then you are It as a "son" (son has always been used as a metaphor for the symbiotic phenomenon, although God also uses it as an affectionate term too). That is also related to Genesis when it was made written that "He created man to be in His image", and that is our ulterior purpose and the completion we seek, if we are rid of our delusion that prevents us from seeing it. All that is hidden in awfully translated passages of Aramaic and the improvised Hebrew tongue, and in Quran of course which is a joke when it comes to its mainstream interpretation, portraying "allah" as the word for God when it refers to "Who Is As Such" as a third-person version of the "I am who am I" expression. Everything of course explained in classic God's riddle-like manner and with many confusing parables. I love God for that, the hypocrites are really confused. Simply the "I am who am I " and "Who Is As Such" I find a little humorous but still the perfect metaphor. Of course God is included in the Allah union though being the Platform/Foundation but it is the actual Being in that phrase "object of imitation". I created few threads on Free-Minds simply because these threads were created already. I have a thread there called "Nearness and Guidance..." although my knowledge and wisdom has increased tremendously since I last wrote there. I have toned down a bit on Free-Minds because I sense that people do not want to hear and I received warnings for my controversial claims regarding Quran (even if they are true). That is when I retreated here to build up a new community of people who have faith in themselves and their Holy Spirit, and the Foundation/Platform they are on (in the Father). It was never any talk about a standalone God but God have a least twice before made it clear what He is, but people seem unable to read black on white ("I am that/who I am" or "I am in the Father and the Father in me"). Quran does also reveal this, but amateurs got their hands on this uninterpreted book and wrought havoc on it, leaving us with the very flawed interpretations we have today, if it is even possible to call them having any basis. We are not waiting for any paradise but the Kingdom is at hand, we can join that right away if we focus and we do as the teachers of old taught or, as I am bold to say, listen to what I got to say. Those who are waiting for any paradise by the means of worldliness, it is just what they will receive as well. If one understands, we actually should beg to be saved from "paradise" " جنة" (Jannateh, because we live in جهنم (Jahannom = "Attached to Outer Layer") in our جنة (body). The Holy Spirit referred to Gehennom as "testing ground" when I implored. If you have faith, you probably see how people have fooled themselves into believing in something that does not exist. There is no "Hell" except here and paradise is released from the flesh (body). Hell is an invention and it did not exist in Biblical elder times but was invented. You just do not know how much nonsense people have invented. I was myself previously doubtful about the existence of Muhammad, but the Holy Spirit told me that he does exist (without any further details). About the Quran the Holy Spirit said when I asked who made it: "No one, the Holy Spirit made it written". I think the Quran when I decipher it will reveal more about the true account. Multiple times I am told that I received my answers "albeit cryptically". It is an interesting God we have. One has to reflect exactly upon what God said. God loves riddles, just look upon the initials beginning 14 chapters of Quran. I have solved some of them concerning their mystery, for example, the chapter 'Ya Seen' is marked like that because the prophet Isaiah is mentioned in it spelled يسعى in Arabic. At the same time as it may hint at something in the contents of a chapter, the letters are also meant to be read out as words. The forum does not have many threads and posts available, but I have made some that try to go into detail about the nature of God and our existence here. I hope that the activity will increase when more people join the forum and start to ask questions or post their views. Who from Free-Minds are you, if I may ask? Be well Emanuel
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Post by question on Sept 16, 2015 17:25:30 GMT
Hello Immanuel, i am Neptin on Free-Minds. You seem to hold views very heterodox and uncommon, yet i am shocked that you received warning on Free-Minds. Is it us or the forum is losing it edge. I hope you can express yourself clearer here. As the Admin of the forum, are you impressed with the turn out so far? There seem to just about 4 posters since the inception of the forum. Have you promoted the forum on Free-Minds, other discussion boards and social networks?
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Post by iscariot on Sept 16, 2015 18:06:20 GMT
Hello Immanuel, i am Neptin on Free-Minds. You seem to hold views very heterodox and uncommon, yet i am shocked that you received warning on Free-Minds. Is it us or the forum is losing it edge. I hope you can express yourself clearer here. As the Admin of the forum, are you impressed with the turn out so far? There seem to just about 4 posters since the inception of the forum. Have you promoted the forum on Free-Minds, other discussion boards and social networks? I was just permanently banned on Free-Minds: "Sorry FreedomStands, you are banned from using this forum! off-topic/spam/abusive posting This ban is not set to expire."
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 17, 2015 14:14:34 GMT
Hello Immanuel, i am Neptin on Free-Minds. You seem to hold views very heterodox and uncommon, yet i am shocked that you received warning on Free-Minds. Is it us or the forum is losing it edge. I hope you can express yourself clearer here. As the Admin of the forum, are you impressed with the turn out so far? There seem to just about 4 posters since the inception of the forum. Have you promoted the forum on Free-Minds, other discussion boards and social networks? Hi Neptin and welcome to this forum. I know the forum has had a slow start and it has had to do with a combination of my private life, my caution and desire for quality with the forum. Since I rely on communion with the Holy Spirit and my work on the deciphering of Quran anew, things are not always moving on smoothly and I do not write new posts when I have nothing to say. Nevertheless you can by browsing what little there is here find out the essentials of what there is to know concerning the esoteric relationship between the Creator and His* Creation, although few are those who can be called His Children since they are lost in this illusive World. * It is not linguistically correct to write "His" about God but in English it is also slightly disrespectful to call a person "Its" and politically inaccurate to say "Her". In a way I hate English for this right now since it feels bad every time I say Him. You do not have this problem in Arabic, Aramaic and Persian. Since God is sometimes referred to as ابى (abbau/father) this gives a slight comfort though. However, I am not disappointed with the progress of this forum because it is supposed to be there for those who search, who are looking beyond the deceptive sects out there and the invented religion Islam some 1400 years ago which worsened the case. What this forum teach or I teach is bound to that the Father teaches and what Quran teaches and what can be channeled through the Gate (God uses الاسما to refer to this phenomenon often mislabeled Heaven for there is no Heaven per se, at least not according to the sectarian view). Every person has their Gate and that is their connection to God, their Hub or whatever metaphor one seeks to use. Since humans are attached to their Body as part of their experiment, they are prevented from "traveling" through this Gate by the attachment and the Body's "weight" (note all is allegorical) prevents them from leaving their جهنم (Jahanom - usually referred to as Hell incorrectly) which was explained to me as "testing ground". The only way out is by rejecting the Body by growing the Spirit and by that "separating the Spirit from the Flesh" such as Jesus taught in the Biblical Gospels. The key is here by looking at the Body's animal nature and realize that a person should not become the animal they are trapped within, quite contradictory to what some sects say such as Islam which accepts some indulgence as far as I know. It is important to know that when the Body feels the surge to do something primitive then that is not a desirable action, most of the time. The control must be by the Spirit for every person has an identity "tagged" to them and which they should live by. There is no person called Satan but Satan is an ancient metaphor for the instinctive drive of humans. We are to learn that the Body we are trapped inside is not our real selves but our Spirit is something much more powerful and potent although it is clouded by this experiment which was made corrupting and deluding, intentionally, by God. It is important to know that God often tests our intelligence and does mislead us if we are not open-minded, so if we hear something in our Spirit or Mind then it should not always be obeyed such as if it told us to go sacrifice our own son. Free-Minds.org is relatively open-minded but one has to remember it is still an Islamic Forum with a specific perception of what God is and my views, even if I share them with powerful angels, are deemed heretical. You know I deem that in God is the Father and I am a son and our carrier is the Holy Spirit. There is hardly just one son though but everyone who does similarly is a child of the Father. People have to philosophize more how we can coexist separately if God is just One and there is only Oneness in existence. Obviously they have to be an integral part of that Oneness or they do not really exist. God refers to them as "lifeless" الموت (al-mowt) and it basically indicates that they live their life as according to the programming of the animal they are within. Only by a "rebellion" against their own self they can conquer it and then they have to refuse its desires, its Satan. You can call it that they have to "tame the beast". I have been cautious promoting the forum, but I have added it in my bottom line of every post that I make on Free-Minds without any further description. I am not intending to "give what is holy to dogs or throw pearls to swine". It is pointless to argue with people who are just set to argue with made up minds. People should come here because they are curious, perhaps already grown their Spirit rather than it being broken and can see the truth in it. The change they have to make is easy, God did not make it hard actually but merely rejecting the animal they are they can reach far. I can give instructions (rasool) that will aid and recite what others have said of old, but I cannot do the work for them, they have to do it themselves. I can be a beacon for them and shine with light that will inspire but people need to take their own steps. I prefer people coming to me rather than I look for them, but I have tried to make myself available. No one spreading faith in the past has ever tried to force people to anything and they usually did let people be lost who were lost but they often challenged their current views in one way or another lest they awaken. You should know that the amount saved is a clear minority of the Earth population, and that is simply because they follow other lemmings like lemmings. They should start following their Spirit or another Spirit, not "lifeless" beings. The good thing with an open forum is that even if one person you write to does not accept your statements there is always another who can read the same and like it. Be safe Amenujil
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 17, 2015 14:28:15 GMT
Hello Immanuel, i am Neptin on Free-Minds. You seem to hold views very heterodox and uncommon, yet i am shocked that you received warning on Free-Minds. Is it us or the forum is losing it edge. I hope you can express yourself clearer here. As the Admin of the forum, are you impressed with the turn out so far? There seem to just about 4 posters since the inception of the forum. Have you promoted the forum on Free-Minds, other discussion boards and social networks? I was just permanently banned on Free-Minds: "Sorry FreedomStands, you are banned from using this forum! off-topic/spam/abusive posting This ban is not set to expire." Hi, Not to make you sad, FreedomStands, but I honestly understand their decision to have you banned. I know you have some personal plot to challenge world religions, but you should reflect upon your own ways. You can challenge them in a more polite way, even against people who are harmful through their perception such as the person called drfazl. Personally I think you should actually become more active in discovering the background to the Abrahamic faith system and know the authentic details and who this man really was and what he stood for. The name Abraham first of all means "the Establisher" literally and people do not even know his name's linguistic root which is Ba-Ra-Miim (Baram). The ه (he) is a grammatical insertion into his name to mark emphatically that you are attached to a role, and the initial alef ا marks "(to) be" Be Establishment One, i.e. the Establisher. Concentrate on what matters in this World, FreedomStands. Be well Amenujil
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Post by iscariot on Sept 17, 2015 20:54:32 GMT
Good suggestions! I'll give it a shot.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 17, 2015 21:18:01 GMT
The forum has so many guests but few of them who join the forum /Emanuel
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Post by iscariot on Sept 18, 2015 3:47:29 GMT
That might be advantageous.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 18, 2015 9:08:00 GMT
To have many guests or that few join the forum? I actually prefer quality over quantity however. It is better to take in those sheep who have strayed away from the herd that is content simply grazing the same meadow over and over again.
Be safe Emanujil
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Post by iscariot on Sept 18, 2015 18:51:34 GMT
I really like that "chat in box" option to keep commentary related to a certain post within a post to save space. I think that is a really convenient idea.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 18, 2015 19:57:56 GMT
I installed some convenient plugins. There is also one for quick-quoting. And you can have post templates.
Be safe Emanuel
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