Post by maveli on Jan 30, 2018 15:42:21 GMT
The following is my interpretation of the gospelic 'Lord's prayer', which I managed to understand the core meaning of after some considerable yet also somewhat spontaneous contemplation efforts. This is my personal contribution to the common cause, for whoever finds this information useful:
1. Our Father who art in heaven, - Appealing to the Origin of ours that is not of this world (John 18:36)
2. Hallowed be thy name.
- Let us understand the essence of its true nature/Unity OR let the Unity be eternal (John 8:51)
3. Thy kingdom come.
- Let us come back [sooner] to our true Origin/The Unity/Alif-Lam-ha
4. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
- Let it work in us in both flesh and Spiritual levels OR let us strive to progress in this direction (Matthew 5:17-48)
5. Give us this day our daily bread,
- Give us the knowledge/teaching/wisdom to help us understand our true cause (Matthew 26:26)
6. and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, -
- and let us become Purified (Zakat in Quran)/let us come near Purification of ours, similarly to when we wake up (from dreaming), we strive not to condemn the sins of others (i.e. when we become Spiritually guided first thing we learn is to stop condemnation of others and cease our thoughts of anger towards weaknesses of others) (Matthew 6:14-15)
7. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. - and help us not fall into temptation, and let us get rid from the influence of the flesh or animalistic nature of ours (Luke 22:40, Matthew 4:1-11, Matthew 10:28).
Note: The whole point of the prayer is to develop spiritually, step by step or, to be exact, to progress further on the path of spiritual development. Word 'salat' in the Quran, according to its trilateral definitions (root Sad-Lam-Waw), can symbolize the horse track where one horse is sort of progressing towards the other so as to reach its opponent on the track, but as Yeshua spoke, it is enough to be LIKE the master or like the teacher, he never spoke about becoming higher than the master or the teacher, the latter would be seeking a personal hierarchy. Therefore, the meaning of a 'prayer' can be understood as a knowledge of progression, which traditionally have been preserved in a sort of mantra-like way of expression. In reality, the prayer is there to progress in certain Spiritual aspects of life. The given prayer is the metaphorical guidance for believers or truth-seekers, or those seeking sound mind (ammeeyuun).
Unfortunately, many people fall in the trap of arrogance once they reach one of the levels of development and this is why it is highly important to keep the whole path of development clean (of evil motivations) and always seek purity and always question yourself if you are on the right course and only use pure sources of guidance, such as thoughts which do not seek material or hierarchal gains. Good source of teachings is obviously the Yeshua's gospelic preaching, namely his elaboration of the Law. The second most important of commandments as taught by Yeshua is to love your neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40). Contrary to typical monotheistic doctrines which put the God first but the human somewhere on the 100th step of the ladder and the human is treated like a sheep ready to be sacrificed on the altar, Yeshua put the 'Love Lord your God' and 'Love your neighbor' together. These two commandments are there placed together and it is something I find very important, it is a symbol that we have to treat the likes of us similarly regardless of their hierarchal or mental position in the world. The obvious trap here is arrogance typical for people who consider themselves 'enlightened' regardless of their cultural or ideological preferences.
This is why [many] clergy and 'scholars' or scientists become all over defensive when you question their teachings, it is because mental seizure is the same as the seizure with 'fire and sword' and this is why most scholars are men, because it is a part of animalistic behavior of a male human, which is to dominate. In turn, the best methodology to combat arrogance is to treat arrogant people with due kindness without condemning them if you fail to cease their arrogance merely from discussion. Do not spark more arrogance in them and leave them to believe in what they regard as an ultimate truth, continue your development and spiritual progression on your own.
Note: I have also noticed that if you put the sentences in this particular contextually logical order, they then can represent the Seven Pillars of Development (Seven Heavens, which the Quran also mentions), where each higher pillar becomes harder to master. The latest is the final step and it is about following the Spiritual path only, without being driven by the Satan or the human animalistic drive in our thoughts and hormonal reactions. Steps 1-4 steps seem to be related to the effort of contemplation. The truth seeker seeks his Origin and contemplates on the idea of God, Father, Unity or Origin (root Alif-Lam-Ha in Quranic semantics). The fifth step and further is when he/she slowly becomes enlightened by using available Scriptural knowledge from archaic or ancient periods OR receives his/her knowledge elsewhere. The obvious mistake here is to listen and follow the common state-sponsored interpretation, but even if you are unlettered you can still contemplate about the nature of those teachings and thus acquire knowledge from other sources. On the 6th step a person becomes further enlightened and continues to fight evil forces within himself. On the last step, a person becomes strong enough mentally to resist the influence of animalistic drive in him on the daily basis. The final separation happens after the physical death of the flesh.
1. Our Father who art in heaven, - Appealing to the Origin of ours that is not of this world (John 18:36)
2. Hallowed be thy name.
- Let us understand the essence of its true nature/Unity OR let the Unity be eternal (John 8:51)
3. Thy kingdom come.
- Let us come back [sooner] to our true Origin/The Unity/Alif-Lam-ha
4. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
- Let it work in us in both flesh and Spiritual levels OR let us strive to progress in this direction (Matthew 5:17-48)
5. Give us this day our daily bread,
- Give us the knowledge/teaching/wisdom to help us understand our true cause (Matthew 26:26)
6. and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, -
- and let us become Purified (Zakat in Quran)/let us come near Purification of ours, similarly to when we wake up (from dreaming), we strive not to condemn the sins of others (i.e. when we become Spiritually guided first thing we learn is to stop condemnation of others and cease our thoughts of anger towards weaknesses of others) (Matthew 6:14-15)
7. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. - and help us not fall into temptation, and let us get rid from the influence of the flesh or animalistic nature of ours (Luke 22:40, Matthew 4:1-11, Matthew 10:28).
Note: The whole point of the prayer is to develop spiritually, step by step or, to be exact, to progress further on the path of spiritual development. Word 'salat' in the Quran, according to its trilateral definitions (root Sad-Lam-Waw), can symbolize the horse track where one horse is sort of progressing towards the other so as to reach its opponent on the track, but as Yeshua spoke, it is enough to be LIKE the master or like the teacher, he never spoke about becoming higher than the master or the teacher, the latter would be seeking a personal hierarchy. Therefore, the meaning of a 'prayer' can be understood as a knowledge of progression, which traditionally have been preserved in a sort of mantra-like way of expression. In reality, the prayer is there to progress in certain Spiritual aspects of life. The given prayer is the metaphorical guidance for believers or truth-seekers, or those seeking sound mind (ammeeyuun).
Unfortunately, many people fall in the trap of arrogance once they reach one of the levels of development and this is why it is highly important to keep the whole path of development clean (of evil motivations) and always seek purity and always question yourself if you are on the right course and only use pure sources of guidance, such as thoughts which do not seek material or hierarchal gains. Good source of teachings is obviously the Yeshua's gospelic preaching, namely his elaboration of the Law. The second most important of commandments as taught by Yeshua is to love your neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40). Contrary to typical monotheistic doctrines which put the God first but the human somewhere on the 100th step of the ladder and the human is treated like a sheep ready to be sacrificed on the altar, Yeshua put the 'Love Lord your God' and 'Love your neighbor' together. These two commandments are there placed together and it is something I find very important, it is a symbol that we have to treat the likes of us similarly regardless of their hierarchal or mental position in the world. The obvious trap here is arrogance typical for people who consider themselves 'enlightened' regardless of their cultural or ideological preferences.
This is why [many] clergy and 'scholars' or scientists become all over defensive when you question their teachings, it is because mental seizure is the same as the seizure with 'fire and sword' and this is why most scholars are men, because it is a part of animalistic behavior of a male human, which is to dominate. In turn, the best methodology to combat arrogance is to treat arrogant people with due kindness without condemning them if you fail to cease their arrogance merely from discussion. Do not spark more arrogance in them and leave them to believe in what they regard as an ultimate truth, continue your development and spiritual progression on your own.
Note: I have also noticed that if you put the sentences in this particular contextually logical order, they then can represent the Seven Pillars of Development (Seven Heavens, which the Quran also mentions), where each higher pillar becomes harder to master. The latest is the final step and it is about following the Spiritual path only, without being driven by the Satan or the human animalistic drive in our thoughts and hormonal reactions. Steps 1-4 steps seem to be related to the effort of contemplation. The truth seeker seeks his Origin and contemplates on the idea of God, Father, Unity or Origin (root Alif-Lam-Ha in Quranic semantics). The fifth step and further is when he/she slowly becomes enlightened by using available Scriptural knowledge from archaic or ancient periods OR receives his/her knowledge elsewhere. The obvious mistake here is to listen and follow the common state-sponsored interpretation, but even if you are unlettered you can still contemplate about the nature of those teachings and thus acquire knowledge from other sources. On the 6th step a person becomes further enlightened and continues to fight evil forces within himself. On the last step, a person becomes strong enough mentally to resist the influence of animalistic drive in him on the daily basis. The final separation happens after the physical death of the flesh.