I believe the following book "Meditations" from Marcus Aurelius (The last greatest Roman Emperor) serves the purpose of this forum and does it greatly. Find the book for free on a simple google search or here is a Link
Don’t ever forget these things: The nature of the world.
How I relate to the world.
What proportion of it I make up.
That you are part of nature, and no one can prevent you
from speaking and acting in harmony with it, always.
The speed with which all of them vanish—the objects in
the world, and the memory of them in time. And the real
nature of the things our senses experience, especially those
that entice us with pleasure or frighten us with pain or are
loudly trumpeted by pride. To understand those things—how
stupid, contemptible, grimy, decaying, and dead they are—
that’s what our intellectual powers are for. And to
understand what those people really amount to, whose
opinions and voices constitute fame. And what dying is—and
that if you look at it in the abstract and break down your imaginary ideas of it by logical analysis, you realize that it’s
nothing but a process of nature, which only children can be
afraid of. (And not only a process of nature but a necessary
one.) And how man grasps God, with what part of himself he
does so, and how that part is conditioned when he does.
Stoicism is incredibly fascinating actually, I am reading articles about it right now. The concept of Stoicism is very similar to what is taught on this forum.
I find indications that the comprehension of Stoicism may be subject to misconception though, such as that it claims here that they believed "everything is rooted in nature" but what I am certain is meant by nature is by source and not like "mother nature".
If the indications are right, Stoicism is virtually identical to the concept taught by the forum. It also shows there were sound people around those ages.
Perhaps Stoicism is a remnant of Eysua's true teachings, because obviously they support both the forum teachings, Quran and the Biblical Gospels (as interpreted objectively). Stoicism was popular until Christianity took over, which is quite some sect.
Reminds me of the wisdom in Ecclesiastes, not the same message, but the point is, why we never hear of enlightened serfs? Perhaps because they never leave history behind them? I am starting to think there is something specific behind the 'malakateh' (a ruling class?) and why would they be in subjection to Adam.
Immanuel, are you by chance from the royal family?
ملىكة contains a linguistic finesse of the Arabic language which I call the unsubstantiated Ye ى. The way it works is by not conveying substance except that it is hypothetical and so the word in question is not true except in theory and the only way I can translate it into English is "to-be-melak" or "Melak-in-testing/training" or "Potential Melak".
The subjection to Adam is the test itself, being scrambled/blurred/jammed (ابلس) from the origin, have to grow and that (while) deluded. The subjection means that they literally are Adam, they are subjected to Adam very literally, and Arabic is an upfront language so if it says subjected to it means they experience Adam personally. Adam is your body, that is an Adam or Homo sapiens as human scientists call the primate species of the mammal subgroup of animals.
All of you are ملىكت, that you have to understand, but your aim should be to be Maleyk not Male'k (unsubstantiated). A substantiated Ye occurs only once in Quran and that is in 54:55 as مليك (unless my search function is bugged). Check it. But that is a grammatical form, merely ملك is your descriptive role.
Aviel: Immanuel, Thank You very much for the work you do. Thank you for your insight, IM SINCERELY THANKFUL! There are people to whom your work is very important, and I can and will raise my hand for being one of them.
Jul 31, 2017 10:29:55 GMT
Immanuel: You are welcome, hansolo. It is for your sake that I am doing it primarily, but I am also a bit curious myself regarding the underlying lore. Persistent research and critical thinking has led to a great breakthrough.
Aug 13, 2017 19:08:46 GMT
nullandvoid: Wondering what a future with only non-dualistic people would be like?
Jan 28, 2018 14:53:12 GMT
Immanuel: Symbiotic existence, like a permanent telepathic coexistence. This is why humans are placed to learn to coexist on Earth on a very basic level and even with marriages, in order to be ready for a greater union by developing from there.
Feb 2, 2018 21:32:19 GMT
Immanuel: Our challenge here is Homo sapiens' self-preservation and other instinctive drives/motivations, which makes people think in "dualistic" ways.
Feb 2, 2018 21:34:12 GMT
hftwo: Immanuel do you believe that You will be able to do "Godly" things during this Immanuel-life-time? Because I do think if Jesus said that you will. e able to do these things and even greater! But logically thinking to get Godlike powers...
Oct 4, 2018 10:48:45 GMT
hftwo: ... one needs to become perfect /totally complete as a being. I do not count on my self, because it seems like the sex commandment is something that I usually break.
Oct 4, 2018 10:49:35 GMT
hftwo: How can I count myself as a perfect being if I cannot control the reproduction urges of the body?
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:10 GMT
hftwo: But at the same time, I do not want to be a human any longer, I do not want to be weak any longer.
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:49 GMT
cerulean: learning to live each day as the last i.e giving our best at each moment, not allowing for sloppiness in thinking and doing, not even for a second. Not allowing the postponing of what should be done
Oct 10, 2018 18:51:29 GMT
cerulean: We should learn to do that, and then all other things will be easier. By adopting a way of being instead of just focusing on abolishing those apparent wrong acts such as masturbation.
Oct 10, 2018 18:55:42 GMT
Immanuel: I might seem to prescribe impossible goals, but I also say that we do reside in a creature which is an animal and you will not be rid of its functionality without killing it and the creature as an animal has needs which are inevitable.
Nov 4, 2018 21:01:04 GMT
Immanuel: What the "Ten Commandments" counteract is the enslaving effects of the body. Furthermore, I am still not convinced about what the seventh command says as it probably says "unnecessary sex". Jesus gave a recommendation of not even looking upon a woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:05:37 GMT
Immanuel: Jesus' word of not even looking upon a woman (or man) suits that of no unnecessary sex. It is about that sexual trigger in the mind which is spoke of. Pay attention to that translators usually add "other" within parentheses, meaning it is about ANY woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:11:06 GMT
Immanuel: "but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28 NASB
Nov 4, 2018 21:17:55 GMT
cerulean: Right, so one should probably adopt an entire way of living, instead of focusing on one thing, because many other things can lead to that one thing you are trying to keep away from.
Nov 5, 2018 12:44:38 GMT
Immanuel: Yes, this is about a way of living rather than a dumb set of rules. People have incorrectly referred to the so-called 'Ten Commandments' as laws to uphold for the sake of worship, but this is wrong. They are guidelines in order to maintain a conscious lif
Nov 5, 2018 18:38:31 GMT
Immanuel: Unfortunately the first lines of the Commandments were distorted so badly it looks like they sanction religious worship. While they seem to promote relinquishing the mind, the truth is they that say the straight opposite.
Nov 5, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
hftwo: Just "Be" is that simple
Jan 11, 2019 12:54:40 GMT
hftwo: You have everything You need, You have Yourself, or is it?
Jan 11, 2019 12:55:25 GMT