Post by Immanuel on Feb 5, 2018 11:13:23 GMT
Hello,
Section one, "The forum agenda in brief", is lighter to the eye and mind, if you care less about a lot of text and cannot be bothered to read. If you are up for a bit more more detailed information, feel free to read section two.
This forum and its growing content went online in order to spread a message about the true nature of our universe in which we experience ourselves to be alive and the truth behind it. This is not intended to be a preached religious belief but a close adherent to logic and reason, and we are basically looking at the answers to why we exist here and what we really are. The forum does distance itself to religious belief and such doctrines and this is reflected by its diminished tone of talking about religion and simultaneously this is not a deception to deceive a visitor but merely to more accurately attract intelligent beings by presenting logical information. There is no traditional God per se and the supernatural source behind our existence is more intricate than that e.g. not a dictatorial deity which requires absolute submission and humans being mere slaves that have no or little mental potential at all. That topic is being discussed on this forum and the visitor to this forum is being told that as early as possible in order for them to not dismiss the forum as just another religious cult or sect.
The forum is not aimed towards the traditionally religious mind but towards anyone who is mentally ascended and conscious on mind level i.e. "They Are Being existent on a truly conscious level", and that symbolizes the distinction between primitive instinct and assuming control over matter and being better than a mere animal, which humans do believe is a consequence of billions of years of evolution, but can evolution truly generate an anomalous consciousness, which takes control supernaturally to independently affect their own fates beyond nature?
In essence, the forum delves into psychology and as such the science behind the mind, an abstract topic which the physical biology has problem defining and many traditional scientists reject psychology as a "quasi-science". The clashing between the science of psychology (psyche-logy = knowledge/logic about the mind) and biology comes when we start to separate the phenomenon of the mind from biology and argue the mind is a separate phenomenon and not exclusively controlled by the various fluid of hormones in the body. This means the mind is its own separate entity to some conditional extent and it is this phenomenon the forum is devoted to and what human science tends to be devoted to crushing all opposition towards, namely the belief that the human consciousness is something more than mere fluids flowing around in the body and is a standalone phenomenon.
The scientists claim their theory about the mind and body oneness is indisputable evidence, but in fact it is merely a belief of theirs since they can prove neither case actually. They run into more difficulties arguing with the reasoning of this forum because this concept accepts evolution as an occurrence and that human is Homo sapiens and biologically a mammal and primate, as we are fine with it and accept the fact, and we accept much of science too. But what we argue is that the projected consciousness being in association/attachment to the body is its own entity and independent from the body albeit it may be weak and enslaved by the body's impulses and emotions, and therefore perform predictable behavior according to the body's instinctive system. Various things in the world may also weaken or sever the link between mind and body and therefore cause the mind to be a helpless observer what the body does in the world e.g. when a subject enters a psychosis (please google psychosis for an explanation of what it is in psychology and psychiatry) or when they experience dementia. Furthermore, a human may possess no enabled elevated mind functionality and therefore not have much of a mind either, and so when psychological affections come to a subject they may simply behave predictably for that reason, this is called by the forum concept as an undeveloped mind which is not (an independent) Being.
So what we basically argue is the existence of the mind as its own phenomenon independent of the body and which is not necessarily subjected to whatever instinctive impulses which come from the body itself and can predict any behavior they display. This is the primary agenda of the forum and the secondary agenda is proving that the mind must exist unconditionally of the body's existence i.e. beyond its death although this point is harder to prove than the primary agenda, however it becomes easier to theorize upon if the primary parameter is true and hence prove everything through logic and with an irrefutable probability. In the end it is about probability and what one would rather believe, and the development which may be be experienced through accepting the primary parameter and following the developmental concept associated with the realization.
Anyhow, the forum is not intended to be deceptive in any way, not preaching some flimsy (religious-like) doctrine and it has no illogical practices to perform and it is absolutely not about worship.
What the forum furthermore will deal with is investigating about the book called Quran and how it became a religious hijacking and turned into virtually a "Judaism 2.0" but with even more gross elements. It will indirectly nullify religions overall but that by providing something so intelligible that it automatically turns into a negative light and therefore seem outright unintelligent to believe in. We do not exactly have a need of refuting religions because they logically refute themselves with a bit of sound reasoning, but since we have to free Quran from the grip of the sect Islam; we may be required to constructively confront Islam and lay forth arguments for its invalidity. This is also done to free former Muslims from the grip of the detrimental cult of Islam and put them on a path which is truly straight and developmental for their minds.
We will speak about religiously charged individuals such as Jesus (Eysua/Issa/Yeshua) and Moses (Muse/Musa), without the intention to confirm any misconceived religious doctrine and falsely associated information regarding them. We will fairly much seek to cleanse their names and truly put forth who they really were and what they were standing for.
Section one, "The forum agenda in brief", is lighter to the eye and mind, if you care less about a lot of text and cannot be bothered to read. If you are up for a bit more more detailed information, feel free to read section two.
The forum agenda in brief
So these are the headlines of what the forum agenda is about:
- Convincing people that their mind is so much more than the mere evolution of an animal
and can be independently controlled - Primary objective - Convincing people that the body is actually an obstacle which contains an autonomous driving called the instinct and which is enslaving and mind diminishing - Primary objective
- Providing means of development for people who have been convinced and help them on their journey towards self-realization - Primary Objective
- Exploring logical theories and philosophies in order to prove that the mind exists beyond the normal worldly realm meaning that it surely ought exist beyond death too - Secondary objective
- Showing the clear logic in that there has to be a supernatural phenomenon behind existence, even if it is not the typical "God" portrayal - Secondary objective
- Nullifying the sect Islam's interpretation of the book called Quran as nonsensical while providing an explanation for why and how the scripture is still authentic nevertheless - Clearly a secondary objective
- Nullifying religious belief altogether by offering an alternative logical explanation to things - Also clearly a secondary objective since the rest will refute this along the way
- Clarifying what certain individuals like Abraham, Moses and Jesus were truly standing for and what is not to be associated with them - Secondary objective
The elaborate forum agenda
This forum and its growing content went online in order to spread a message about the true nature of our universe in which we experience ourselves to be alive and the truth behind it. This is not intended to be a preached religious belief but a close adherent to logic and reason, and we are basically looking at the answers to why we exist here and what we really are. The forum does distance itself to religious belief and such doctrines and this is reflected by its diminished tone of talking about religion and simultaneously this is not a deception to deceive a visitor but merely to more accurately attract intelligent beings by presenting logical information. There is no traditional God per se and the supernatural source behind our existence is more intricate than that e.g. not a dictatorial deity which requires absolute submission and humans being mere slaves that have no or little mental potential at all. That topic is being discussed on this forum and the visitor to this forum is being told that as early as possible in order for them to not dismiss the forum as just another religious cult or sect.
The forum is not aimed towards the traditionally religious mind but towards anyone who is mentally ascended and conscious on mind level i.e. "They Are Being existent on a truly conscious level", and that symbolizes the distinction between primitive instinct and assuming control over matter and being better than a mere animal, which humans do believe is a consequence of billions of years of evolution, but can evolution truly generate an anomalous consciousness, which takes control supernaturally to independently affect their own fates beyond nature?
In essence, the forum delves into psychology and as such the science behind the mind, an abstract topic which the physical biology has problem defining and many traditional scientists reject psychology as a "quasi-science". The clashing between the science of psychology (psyche-logy = knowledge/logic about the mind) and biology comes when we start to separate the phenomenon of the mind from biology and argue the mind is a separate phenomenon and not exclusively controlled by the various fluid of hormones in the body. This means the mind is its own separate entity to some conditional extent and it is this phenomenon the forum is devoted to and what human science tends to be devoted to crushing all opposition towards, namely the belief that the human consciousness is something more than mere fluids flowing around in the body and is a standalone phenomenon.
The scientists claim their theory about the mind and body oneness is indisputable evidence, but in fact it is merely a belief of theirs since they can prove neither case actually. They run into more difficulties arguing with the reasoning of this forum because this concept accepts evolution as an occurrence and that human is Homo sapiens and biologically a mammal and primate, as we are fine with it and accept the fact, and we accept much of science too. But what we argue is that the projected consciousness being in association/attachment to the body is its own entity and independent from the body albeit it may be weak and enslaved by the body's impulses and emotions, and therefore perform predictable behavior according to the body's instinctive system. Various things in the world may also weaken or sever the link between mind and body and therefore cause the mind to be a helpless observer what the body does in the world e.g. when a subject enters a psychosis (please google psychosis for an explanation of what it is in psychology and psychiatry) or when they experience dementia. Furthermore, a human may possess no enabled elevated mind functionality and therefore not have much of a mind either, and so when psychological affections come to a subject they may simply behave predictably for that reason, this is called by the forum concept as an undeveloped mind which is not (an independent) Being.
So what we basically argue is the existence of the mind as its own phenomenon independent of the body and which is not necessarily subjected to whatever instinctive impulses which come from the body itself and can predict any behavior they display. This is the primary agenda of the forum and the secondary agenda is proving that the mind must exist unconditionally of the body's existence i.e. beyond its death although this point is harder to prove than the primary agenda, however it becomes easier to theorize upon if the primary parameter is true and hence prove everything through logic and with an irrefutable probability. In the end it is about probability and what one would rather believe, and the development which may be be experienced through accepting the primary parameter and following the developmental concept associated with the realization.
Anyhow, the forum is not intended to be deceptive in any way, not preaching some flimsy (religious-like) doctrine and it has no illogical practices to perform and it is absolutely not about worship.
What the forum furthermore will deal with is investigating about the book called Quran and how it became a religious hijacking and turned into virtually a "Judaism 2.0" but with even more gross elements. It will indirectly nullify religions overall but that by providing something so intelligible that it automatically turns into a negative light and therefore seem outright unintelligent to believe in. We do not exactly have a need of refuting religions because they logically refute themselves with a bit of sound reasoning, but since we have to free Quran from the grip of the sect Islam; we may be required to constructively confront Islam and lay forth arguments for its invalidity. This is also done to free former Muslims from the grip of the detrimental cult of Islam and put them on a path which is truly straight and developmental for their minds.
We will speak about religiously charged individuals such as Jesus (Eysua/Issa/Yeshua) and Moses (Muse/Musa), without the intention to confirm any misconceived religious doctrine and falsely associated information regarding them. We will fairly much seek to cleanse their names and truly put forth who they really were and what they were standing for.
About what is not the forum's agenda in brief
Be well
Immanuel
- The forum is not intended to create another religious doctrine and zealous beliefs which are supposed to be forced upon humans
- It is not intended to be based upon so-called "blind faith" and thus is logic and reason important
- It will not enforce "the concept of belief in (a) God"
- It will not enforce the belief that God hates that people does not believe in it (i.e. has Homo sapient instincts) and put fear into people that if they do not do things right they will suffer an eternal punishment
- It will not condemn people for "disbelief and disloyalty towards God" - Why would this God want it anyways, is the God instinctive?
- No one will be condemned for not following the propagated concept of this forum and we are only sad for not being able to convince people about the truth
- We do not place ourselves on a pedestal, considering ourselves arrogantly better, chosen and otherwise better than others except that conditions enabled us to understand the truth
- We do not consider people dirty or of lesser value for living succumbed to the world but more like victims and we pity them and wish to help
- The forum does not care about terms such as monotheism or polytheism - Those are vaguely descriptive anyways
- The leader(s) will never ask for money for blessing or guidance. The project's discoveries will never be charged money for - not even a summarized and cleansed compilation of Quran
- The leader(s) will never ask to be elevated (idolized) exclusively in any kind. If they do they will have no association with this movement and not be authentic
- It will not pursue subjective opinion but it will stay as objective as possible - Emotionally affected input is considered as stemming from the instinct and the bodily
Be well
Immanuel