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Post by hftwo on Jan 11, 2019 12:48:09 GMT
As it is can be seen, common-way of human thinking is very square like, black and white. And suicide is usually something which is looked down upon, in human society and most humans sheep-like follow this stigma that is made by the society, without giving a thought.
However, for someone who knows better, and knows that situations/events most of the time are not just black and white and require unbias individual evolution, thus can it ever be justifiable if it makes the most logical sense as an course of action?
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Post by Immanuel on Jan 11, 2019 14:50:22 GMT
Suicide is a decision to escape difficulties and a sense of hopelessness, or one is bored of reality. It can also happen because one has a broken mind, mental illness.
Many times people who commit suicide are ignorant of the truth behind existence, just like the majority of the human race, or they might look at things a different way. I am myself longing towards the day I die, I only do my best to endure the days finding something to pass time with, but in a primitive state of existence it is hard to find stimulation by the means in this world. I could commit suicide, but now I cannot, I have something which prevents me from it.
The reason we live in this world is because we have something that must be done in it and hence you need to discover that before it is time to leave and it probably takes a human life span. Like the forum has told, the purpose is to develop mentally, and if you do not evolve sufficiently you only experience reincarnation and perhaps the state you return in is worse than now. It is like drawing a stick. I would probably not take the risk when I have time now to develop.
However, some people may live in truly miserable places, it is not always a blame on what you do, but we need to remember this is the final milestone in the existence of this world, so it sure need to be extremely miserable to be worth the risk. I would try to make the best of the situation and just soak up the pain of living and contemplate upon existence and just work on development. You do not need money, status or possessions to grow mentally, you do not need anything for it.
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Post by hftwo on Jan 11, 2019 17:07:46 GMT
However, it does not make sense how the human population keeps growing. Because when the end of the earth comes, than it means that some souls got many more lifetimes/trials than other souls who would get fewer tries/lifetimes. This is not fair as we can see.
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Post by Immanuel on Jan 11, 2019 18:50:03 GMT
It is not unfair and each person gets an equal number of "tries". You do not necessarily always have to be "spawned" into the world but you can be in the world and then show up a thousand year later. Time is only an invention for the purpose. But naturally as closer to the end it comes the more often you are spawned, logically, as watching the need to uphold the population.
In the beginning there was also not as much guidance as there is today, the amount of guidance is in proportion to the apocalypse day. The more brilliant already made their way out when there was more contemplation to be made but now the hints are overwhelming. However, it is still a merit to make it out today, not many individuals made it out anyways. They never made this setup to be easy, they wish for quality individuals to be refined forth.
Also, those who live today are often more broken than in the past, you see many broken souls. But then again there are also very gifted people who did not make it out yet but are doing quite well. The test here is not easy at all and it is good to be wise.
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Post by Immanuel on Jan 11, 2019 20:02:02 GMT
I will also be frank in saying I do not know the exact setup even if I am quite knowledgeable being an insightful one. Depending on logical analysis I would expect that the milestones in revelation kind of set the different eras and the population and time in each is fixed, for every person.
It sounds cruel, but they (Elahem) are testing your performance as a Being and your potential. There are three revelation milestones of lore which called famously "el Torateh" - roughly the ignition, "el Enjeel" - the enlightenment and el Qaraan - the manifestation. If you know the meaning of those three words you probably understand the purpose of them too.
None of those who came, came with religious laws but guidelines on how to develop the mind and no less you get from me, the revealer of El Qaraan after centuries of people who have tried or claimed they understood it or even interpreted it intentionally to say something it does not.
Nor do I have to reveal it in some so called holy language or tell things must be recited in a particular way, I referred to those three words only as a reference to the lore. No one needs to recite anything at all in fact.
The first revelation happened several millenia ago, so you understand the vast time span involved. I have no real precise date for Moses but I would probably date it in relation to Jesus 2000 years ago i.e. 4000 years ago, but it must not be so linear, and it does not really matter either. There has been theories that Moses is mentioned in Egyptian historical records which could be about 1500 BC, but nothing is easy to date.
Even so there was also the man Abraham who was the first person to understand everything and he did it in a time before the first revelation making it very meritorious, he created the first assembly, and many claimed to belong to it at the time of Jesus after which it died out a little to be called Judaism mostly, but mixing it severely with religious ideas.
So the first period from day one Elahem were waiting to see how many people would understand in what kind of illusion they live in by themselves, no revelation done, and Abraham was the first person to understand and so he is an important person in that and why he is so mentioned in Semitic lore. During his time Earth's population was much smaller.
Then came period two, the ignition, Elahem gave stimulus to mankind to monitor the response, they revealed the so-called 'Ten Commandments', tragically corrupted into saying what they do not eventually, especially the four first ones, six other Commandments are decently coming through still except that do not kill should be do not defeat, and do not commit adultery is supposed to say do not engage in sexual activities and other errors. This is for example why Jesus said "even looking upon a woman with desire is a sexual activity".
So in ways the six Commandments I mentioned are harder than what people have made them, but instead they made the four others into religious activities while they say something else.
Anyways, the "ignition" was sent in to make people understand the purpose for its existence at all and to understand it helps them grow mentally and separate the spirit from the flesh, as they do not activate the instinct if following the Commandments.
Next was the "enlightenment", revealed by the peculiar man Jesus and who simply gave what the word implies, a message or enlightenment. The word "angel" is actually based on that word. Jesus did actually elaborate on the guidelines, cryptically showing their meaning but the man spoke in riddles for the most part and it takes a wise man to understand his words properly, especially a person who is not religiously tainted and who expects a god in everything. Jesus spoke about how to enhance the being in oneself and how to make the best of the guidelines already in place. In ways he explained everything about existence if one is wise enough to understand the parables. Unfortunately today his words are also suffering from poor translation.
And last but not least we have the "manifestation", like the name implies it is supposed to reveal everything black on white, like the ink on white paper and just like I do right now it reveals the truth just like it is without being cryptic, no censoring. You get to know about existence just the way it is, and even the truth about Elahem and what they are doing and why we are here. This is the plain meaning of El Qaraan.
With a bit of contemplation you also understand if there is nothing else to reveal the waiting of Elahem is coming to an end and this is the final period of Earth before the so-called Apocalypse. They expect those with potential to understand now soon, and the rest will experience the annihilation of the retracted universe, opposite of what they call 'Big Bang'. The rapid retraction will come just as violently as big bang. If you still remain on Earth that day you vanish, gone, but there is no meaningless eternal Hell which they have invented.
What they made of what they call Hell is on Earth, and it is eternal in a sense if you do not make it out. The word Gehenna means "attachment to bodily" and so in reference it is eternal attachment to bodily, but eternal is conditional for the existence of the world itself. When the universe ceases to exists you were in there for its 100% of time.
In terms of that, the eastern faiths who believe in reincarnation are correct and the typical Abrahamic faiths are wrong, but no one is right anyways in the long run as they aim for the wrong things and for the wrong reasons.
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