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Post by iscariot on Sept 18, 2015 18:46:54 GMT
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 18, 2015 20:08:08 GMT
I read some link and everything they say is not true. Be cautious associating it with the lifestyle proclaimed here.
Be safe Emanuel
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Post by iscariot on Sept 19, 2015 1:59:09 GMT
I read some link and everything they say is not true. Be cautious associating it with the lifestyle proclaimed here. Be safe Emanuel Yes, everything I was posting was to give people an idea about some of the mainstream ideas now associated with these various things, but not the views presented here necessarily. Further weirdness can be seen in a Youtube documentary about "White Tantra" to get an idea of what modern Gnostic groups are saying: Yet it is more reasonable to simple say one should carefully control their behavior and treat their marriages and their families with compassionate consideration.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 19, 2015 9:27:31 GMT
"What we actually know about Christian gnosticism is limited."They have to be joking. What Jesus teaches in the Christian Biblical Gospels is Gnostic ideals. A problem is that "Gnosticism" was never a religion or a faith in that regard and the actual word means esoteric. This is why I try to drift away from that terminology on this site not to be framed to some doctrine. The Gnostic word used here is used very differently compared to tradition and I try to limit it to the esoteric nature of our existence. Another problem we have is that sooner or later we need some tagline for the community, i.e. some label of reference and I dislike to use such a name for it risks just form another sect among many. One reason I chose "I AM THAT I AM" as a forum-name was because this is what God wants from people, i.e. to stand in His Light, be a mirror of Him. The Muslims have used Muslim for many years but unfortunately it is a tainted faith even if Abraham surely was a "Me - selam" by description. The word does not mean anything other than that the person is sound, healthy (sane), and that is hardly something I can call Islam with its Pagan ritualism. I think it is a mistake to try to label yourself at all from the beginning. But then when you die the people will, for example, instead say the 'Emanuelian' about themselves which is a big failure too. I think however that there is a hint in the word Allah actually since it means "Who is as Such"; there has to be some sort of possibility to use that as tagline, and it is merely a third-person version of what God said to Moses: "I am who am I" (I AM THAT I AM). A problem is that the Muslims would go berserk if we take the word Allah and attribute to ourselves as it was intended to be used. Problem is that they have created a god that does not exist as such but is a symbiotic phenomenon with those "who are as such" (Elohem). 'Rabb' is the only word that can be used somehow resembling the common God word. And in their religion it is a blasphemy to associate (shirk) yourself with Allah which is quite the irony since that is exactly what God expects. Yet Quran frequently speaks of "Being Such As It (Allah) and being such as the Father Abraham and company. Be safe Emanuel
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 19, 2015 9:38:44 GMT
I moderated the links of iscariot here, but that is because with no personal analysis, evaluation and elaboration in line with the discussion here it is best kept among (external) articles.
Be safe Emanuel
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