When one deprives the body from a lot of its instinctual/programmed satisfaction, the body becomes miserable, at the least that's what I noticed.
I can see that when I very-consciously do not obey whatever the body wishes, trying to do this at all the times, I see that the body becomes very burdensome because it becomes like a very sad pet.
And because your consciousness is connected to the body, you perceive all the time how the body is sad/unsatisfied. So maybe sometimes One has to give in to instinct to satisfy the body at the least a little bit, to make sure it doesn't turn sad/depressed and annoy Your consciousness/Mind with its depressed state?
There was no sarcasm actually, I was wondering what you are depriving it of more precisely.
But yes, you are in control of an animal and as an animal it has its needs. This can be most disturbing to us who have reached far as we get disgusted by its whims and desires as we have separated the mind from the body.
Different things could affect the mind to various extents negatively and this is why I asked what exactly you are suppressing when you feel the body is like a sad pet.
Thank you for the clarification. Most of the time it is the sexual need of the body, and it gets frustrated. I don't think I can just kill/shut off the sex drive completely because it seems as long as the redproduction systems of the body keep working it will put resistance on my mind, for me to do something about it, but resisting it is an expression of my conscious control over the body.
But maybe one should capulate sometimes to not make the body frustrated/sad that it cannot do anything about its sexual needs. I'm not sure maybe a reproductively healthy body can become ill by starving it off sexual needs.
HOWEVER! I'm surely do not want to neglect the development of my Being/Mind and lose my mind over sexual needs of the body and I surely do Not lose my mind over such silly things these days.
However maybe it's not a Mind-Killer to capulate once a month for the sake of the body so it wouldn't stay frustrated un-necessarily?
However Jesus also said one cannot serve two masters at the same time. Hmm...
However if my memory serves me correct in the translation project one can read that the author says that one should avoid participating in anything instinctual even a little bit because it then gets a grip of the person like a hook and "just one time" becomes many times and so and the person becomes hooked by the instinct.
The sex drive is one of the strongest urges in the body. In a healthy individual Homo sapiens this is in its nature and it can be incredibly hard to resist.
It takes much mental discipline to reduce production of semen and sperm, but because I am a male myself I have learned tricks. There is a number of factors which cause the sexual need to grow and by counteracting this you can minimize it. When you have generated a sexual need it cannot be circumvented except by emptying, or you will shake and cannot think straight, so proactive training must be performed all the time.
Here is a list of things you need to keep in mind at all times:
1. Do not look at a woman to desire her, even Jesus 2000 years ago talked about this, you already stimulate the sex need then and drive yourself closer to sexual frustration 2. Do not touch yourself in a way which may stimulate yourself to a sexual activity 3. Never visualize a woman in your head nor the act of sex 4. You may undesirably generate a sexual need through your healthy biology, but always wait until you shake, tickle in the organ and cannot think straight 5. Domination as in violence may actually help to stimulate the sex drive, so it might be wise to consider this 6. Anything which charges your manliness, "is macho", will probably increase the amount of hormones which in the end affects the reproductive system 7. Avoid to visualize yourself if you choose to exercise for a more bodily well-being because the thought of yourself and your progress may actually stimulate the sex drive
Arguably sexual stimulation does affect the production in the testicles and hence any sort of stimulation should be avoided always. When the testicles are full then this causes unpleasant feelings in the body even if you do not want to, and you may even get pain in them.
In the end you are right, you are inside a Homo sapiens ape species and some of its behavior can barely be controlled at all times. Eat, sleep and reproduce are things very fundamental to it. However, strict control of it is a way to exercise the mind, so if you do as much as possible to avoid the reproduction it does actually turn out to be developmental.
The only other thing I advise you to not do is to neglect sleep and (adequate) food needs. Those are not signs you have control but rather the opposite, just look at reports of misuse of smartphones and social media where people neglect sleep to remain online. There it is actually control with the opposite, to in the wake of urges put everything aside and merely sleep instead! Sleep is a programmed need of Homo sapiens and scientists say it pretty well about between 6 - 8 hours per night. I would say pretty few get around with 6 hours per night however, but the sleep need seems to shrink with the age of a Homo sapiens body. I need an average sleep of 7 hours myself, but I can range between 6,5 to 7,5 if I over multiple days have an average of 7.
There is no embarrassment of eating, it is something you must do to survive in the programmed world. Avoid getting too much food, but you do not have to eat which tastes not at all. Also eat according to the omnivore the Homo sapiens is, more vegetables than meat preferably, but remember it cannot be a vegan by natural means as vegetables lack B12 (all except some really rare ones growing in the sea). If you listen to the body's nature, you keep it an omnivore, but you require far less meat than the average human eats today. Alike in old religious lore I advise against eating pork, even if the hygiene of holding swine is less of an issue today, the pork meat holds a far lower quality than other red meats. Best is to eat fish, and perhaps chicken, and avoid red meat altogether, but pork is worst. The old talks about pork has always been true, it is not just a zealous religious law, not even a law but a recommendation. Never was a law, people twisted the words.
Sugar tastes well, but it is your worst enemy, it is a drug to the body. But if you get a distance to it, it is not as bad, but if you are addicted to it and crave for it you should begin to control intake more. Sugar consumption also has diminishing returns, you need more and you do not get as much effect from it, and you feel the negative effects due to the high dosage.
Caffeine is actually a pesticide which exists in plants but we take it as its effect is causing a stimulating effect. I have my doubts it really is like this but I think the anxiety in the body due to the toxin does actually make us imagine we are more alert, at all dosages, it only becomes more prominent when you drink a lot of coffee for example. The plants contain the caffeine as a natural pesticide, and it is that we consume! If you do not drink this you can ignore this, but if you do then think about the amounts (coffee, tea, energy drinks, pills etc).
Aviel: Immanuel, Thank You very much for the work you do. Thank you for your insight, IM SINCERELY THANKFUL! There are people to whom your work is very important, and I can and will raise my hand for being one of them.
Jul 31, 2017 10:29:55 GMT
Immanuel: You are welcome, hansolo. It is for your sake that I am doing it primarily, but I am also a bit curious myself regarding the underlying lore. Persistent research and critical thinking has led to a great breakthrough.
Aug 13, 2017 19:08:46 GMT
nullandvoid: Wondering what a future with only non-dualistic people would be like?
Jan 28, 2018 14:53:12 GMT
Immanuel: Symbiotic existence, like a permanent telepathic coexistence. This is why humans are placed to learn to coexist on Earth on a very basic level and even with marriages, in order to be ready for a greater union by developing from there.
Feb 2, 2018 21:32:19 GMT
Immanuel: Our challenge here is Homo sapiens' self-preservation and other instinctive drives/motivations, which makes people think in "dualistic" ways.
Feb 2, 2018 21:34:12 GMT
hftwo: Immanuel do you believe that You will be able to do "Godly" things during this Immanuel-life-time? Because I do think if Jesus said that you will. e able to do these things and even greater! But logically thinking to get Godlike powers...
Oct 4, 2018 10:48:45 GMT
hftwo: ... one needs to become perfect /totally complete as a being. I do not count on my self, because it seems like the sex commandment is something that I usually break.
Oct 4, 2018 10:49:35 GMT
hftwo: How can I count myself as a perfect being if I cannot control the reproduction urges of the body?
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:10 GMT
hftwo: But at the same time, I do not want to be a human any longer, I do not want to be weak any longer.
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:49 GMT
cerulean: learning to live each day as the last i.e giving our best at each moment, not allowing for sloppiness in thinking and doing, not even for a second. Not allowing the postponing of what should be done
Oct 10, 2018 18:51:29 GMT
cerulean: We should learn to do that, and then all other things will be easier. By adopting a way of being instead of just focusing on abolishing those apparent wrong acts such as masturbation.
Oct 10, 2018 18:55:42 GMT
Immanuel: I might seem to prescribe impossible goals, but I also say that we do reside in a creature which is an animal and you will not be rid of its functionality without killing it and the creature as an animal has needs which are inevitable.
Nov 4, 2018 21:01:04 GMT
Immanuel: What the "Ten Commandments" counteract is the enslaving effects of the body. Furthermore, I am still not convinced about what the seventh command says as it probably says "unnecessary sex". Jesus gave a recommendation of not even looking upon a woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:05:37 GMT
Immanuel: Jesus' word of not even looking upon a woman (or man) suits that of no unnecessary sex. It is about that sexual trigger in the mind which is spoke of. Pay attention to that translators usually add "other" within parentheses, meaning it is about ANY woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:11:06 GMT
Immanuel: "but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28 NASB
Nov 4, 2018 21:17:55 GMT
cerulean: Right, so one should probably adopt an entire way of living, instead of focusing on one thing, because many other things can lead to that one thing you are trying to keep away from.
Nov 5, 2018 12:44:38 GMT
Immanuel: Yes, this is about a way of living rather than a dumb set of rules. People have incorrectly referred to the so-called 'Ten Commandments' as laws to uphold for the sake of worship, but this is wrong. They are guidelines in order to maintain a conscious lif
Nov 5, 2018 18:38:31 GMT
Immanuel: Unfortunately the first lines of the Commandments were distorted so badly it looks like they sanction religious worship. While they seem to promote relinquishing the mind, the truth is they that say the straight opposite.
Nov 5, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
hftwo: Just "Be" is that simple
Jan 11, 2019 12:54:40 GMT
hftwo: You have everything You need, You have Yourself, or is it?
Jan 11, 2019 12:55:25 GMT