Post by Wanderer on Apr 22, 2020 9:46:01 GMT
In the book of Revelation which is believed to be written by John the Apostle. The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself only as "John". Traditionally, this was often believed to be the same person as John, son of Zebedee, one of the apostles of Jesus, to whom the Gospel of John was also attributed. However, a minority of senior clerics and scholars, such as Eusebius , recognize at least one further John as a companion of Jesus Christ, John the Presbyter "after an interval, placing him among others outside of the number of the apostles". Some Christian scholars since medieval times separate the disciple(s) from Revelation's writer, John of Patmos/the Divine.
For the curious of the Mind, worth considering is that in Revelation - 7, one can read this:
144,000 Sealed
7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
Here in Revelation 7 the author speaks of 12.000 people being gathered from 12 tribes. Now each tribe has a name, and I have a theory that each tribe represents a specific "characteristic". So each person from the tribe is part of the specific tribe/team because of this unique characteristic of the tribe/team, which makes that person part of the team so to speak.
Therefore I think it is worth to look into what those names/code-words mean and to which characteristics can it point to. You can ask why did I choose this information/passage from Rev-7? I did because i have a theory that there are a limited amount of Beings-from-"Heaven" on earth and that each one of them is expected to return to their origin-home. And the Rev-7 might be telling Us the exact number of these Beings, which is 144.000.
The alleged words of Jesus from Matthew 13, shed light onto this theory.
Take a look at Matthew 13 (Of course, ignore the stereotypical religious "language" such as "Devil" etc.)
Jesus Explains About the Weeds
36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His followers came to him and said, “Explain to us the meaning of the story about the weeds in the field.”
37 Jesus answered, “The man who planted the good seed in the field is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed are all of God’s children who belong to the kingdom. The weeds are those people who belong to the Evil One. 39 And the enemy who planted the bad seed is the devil. The harvest time is the end of the age, and the workers who gather are God’s angels.
40 “Just as the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all who cause sin and all who do evil. 42 The angels will throw them into the blazing furnace, where the people will cry and grind their teeth with pain. 43 Then the good people will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let those with ears use them and listen.
Here Jesus is saying black on white that God planted Good seeds - who are the children of God who belong to his kingdom. However Jesus at the same time acknowledges that the other people on earth are NOT of the same Origin as the Children of God, and He calls the being of the "Evil" one. By Evil one, He must probably meant their origin is the same as the earths, the corrupt/ignorant source-code. Which is programmed to be the corrupt way.
At the same time there is very interesting piece of information in this passage, Jesus says that the angels "will gather out of his kingdom all who cause sin and all who do evil. PAY Attention that that Jesus says they will be gathered out of the kingdom as if the world is already the Kingdom!
In the Gospel of Thomas there is saying that points to this same thing : The Saying 113: His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is'. Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and people do not see it."
The Kingdom of God is already "HERE", there is no there or under or over there, because the "distance" and the "time" is all an illusion, there is nowhere to go, the Kingdom of God is right there where you are. And the same way as You cannot run from yourself (Your central-origin point of existence) the same way You cannot run from the Kingdom, because You are already there and was. You are literally "out-of-the-tune" so to speak or "drunk" to see the kingdom.
And to get rid of this "filter/barrier" that "hides" the kingdom of God in which you already are, one need to abstain from the illusionary world thats IT, IT-IS-STRAIGHT-FORWARD.
Saying 27
(1) “If you do not abstain from the world, you will not find the kingdom.
(2) If you do not make the Sabbath into a Sabbath, you will not see the Father.”
(28) Jesus says:
(1) “I stood in the middle of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them.
(2) I found all of them drunk. None of them did I find thirsty.
(3) And my soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their heart, and they cannot see; for they came into the world empty, (and) they also seek to depart from the world empty.
(4) But now they are drunk. (But) when they shake off their wine, then they will change their mind.”
For the curious of the Mind, worth considering is that in Revelation - 7, one can read this:
144,000 Sealed
7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
Here in Revelation 7 the author speaks of 12.000 people being gathered from 12 tribes. Now each tribe has a name, and I have a theory that each tribe represents a specific "characteristic". So each person from the tribe is part of the specific tribe/team because of this unique characteristic of the tribe/team, which makes that person part of the team so to speak.
Therefore I think it is worth to look into what those names/code-words mean and to which characteristics can it point to. You can ask why did I choose this information/passage from Rev-7? I did because i have a theory that there are a limited amount of Beings-from-"Heaven" on earth and that each one of them is expected to return to their origin-home. And the Rev-7 might be telling Us the exact number of these Beings, which is 144.000.
The alleged words of Jesus from Matthew 13, shed light onto this theory.
Take a look at Matthew 13 (Of course, ignore the stereotypical religious "language" such as "Devil" etc.)
Jesus Explains About the Weeds
36 Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His followers came to him and said, “Explain to us the meaning of the story about the weeds in the field.”
37 Jesus answered, “The man who planted the good seed in the field is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed are all of God’s children who belong to the kingdom. The weeds are those people who belong to the Evil One. 39 And the enemy who planted the bad seed is the devil. The harvest time is the end of the age, and the workers who gather are God’s angels.
40 “Just as the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all who cause sin and all who do evil. 42 The angels will throw them into the blazing furnace, where the people will cry and grind their teeth with pain. 43 Then the good people will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let those with ears use them and listen.
Here Jesus is saying black on white that God planted Good seeds - who are the children of God who belong to his kingdom. However Jesus at the same time acknowledges that the other people on earth are NOT of the same Origin as the Children of God, and He calls the being of the "Evil" one. By Evil one, He must probably meant their origin is the same as the earths, the corrupt/ignorant source-code. Which is programmed to be the corrupt way.
At the same time there is very interesting piece of information in this passage, Jesus says that the angels "will gather out of his kingdom all who cause sin and all who do evil. PAY Attention that that Jesus says they will be gathered out of the kingdom as if the world is already the Kingdom!
In the Gospel of Thomas there is saying that points to this same thing : The Saying 113: His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is'. Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and people do not see it."
The Kingdom of God is already "HERE", there is no there or under or over there, because the "distance" and the "time" is all an illusion, there is nowhere to go, the Kingdom of God is right there where you are. And the same way as You cannot run from yourself (Your central-origin point of existence) the same way You cannot run from the Kingdom, because You are already there and was. You are literally "out-of-the-tune" so to speak or "drunk" to see the kingdom.
And to get rid of this "filter/barrier" that "hides" the kingdom of God in which you already are, one need to abstain from the illusionary world thats IT, IT-IS-STRAIGHT-FORWARD.
Saying 27
(1) “If you do not abstain from the world, you will not find the kingdom.
(2) If you do not make the Sabbath into a Sabbath, you will not see the Father.”
(28) Jesus says:
(1) “I stood in the middle of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them.
(2) I found all of them drunk. None of them did I find thirsty.
(3) And my soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their heart, and they cannot see; for they came into the world empty, (and) they also seek to depart from the world empty.
(4) But now they are drunk. (But) when they shake off their wine, then they will change their mind.”