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Post by Wanderer on Sept 8, 2020 17:20:28 GMT
Immanuel, what is your point of view/stance these days? That the instinct is the enemy and the goal is resit it to the fullest?
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Post by cerulean on Sept 9, 2020 11:13:50 GMT
I haven't heard of Immanuel for a while, and I don't know why. But I'll respond to this; Irrationality is the enemy, lack of logical thoughtfulness, and ultimately unreasonable behavior.
Therefore the good is what is reasonable (in any given context). And the evil is the opposite.
When actions are motivated by the desire to attain a certain pleasure (comfort) or to avoid a certain pain then (discomfort) then one is likely to end up in the domain of the "unreasonable" pretty quickly. Because desires only seek to fulfill themselves, and they don't know nor care about what is good or bad. Therefore one who is moved by desires is like a blind person.
I think it is a universal law that reasonable actions have positive effect and unreasonable actions have negative consequences; I also find this saying (of buddhist origin) very spot on:"Whatever harm an enemy may do to an enemy, or a hater to a hater, an ill-directed mind inflicts on oneself greater harm"
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 9, 2020 11:29:28 GMT
I haven't heard of Immanuel for a while, and I don't know why. But I'll respond to this; Irrationality is the enemy, lack of logical thoughtfulness, and ultimately unreasonable behavior. Therefore the good is what is reasonable (in any given context). And the evil is the opposite. When actions are motivated by the desire to attain a certain pleasure (comfort) or to avoid a certain pain then (discomfort) then one is likely to end up in the domain of the "unreasonable" pretty quickly. Because desires only seek to fulfill themselves, and they don't know nor care about what is good or bad. Therefore one who is moved by desires is like a blind person. I think it is a universal law that reasonable actions have positive effect and unreasonable actions have negative consequences; I also find this saying (of buddhist origin) very spot on:"Whatever harm an enemy may do to an enemy, or a hater to a hater, an ill-directed mind inflicts on oneself greater harm" Hello Cerulean, I agree with your reasoning. It is about doing what makes sense to do. About the fact that Immanuel is less active on the forum, I think can be due to multiple reasons as for why. First of all, the simplest explanation is that Immanuel is busy, as an individual he has a life of his own, people shouldn't forget about that. The other reasons might be that Immanuel changed his point of view/stance on things and therefore right now is contemplating as to what to do further. Therefore, I am taking the chance if Immanuel if he will shares if his point of view changed.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 13, 2020 0:13:18 GMT
I haven't heard of Immanuel for a while, and I don't know why. But I'll respond to this; Irrationality is the enemy, lack of logical thoughtfulness, and ultimately unreasonable behavior. Therefore the good is what is reasonable (in any given context). And the evil is the opposite. When actions are motivated by the desire to attain a certain pleasure (comfort) or to avoid a certain pain then (discomfort) then one is likely to end up in the domain of the "unreasonable" pretty quickly. Because desires only seek to fulfill themselves, and they don't know nor care about what is good or bad. Therefore one who is moved by desires is like a blind person. I think it is a universal law that reasonable actions have positive effect and unreasonable actions have negative consequences; I also find this saying (of buddhist origin) very spot on:"Whatever harm an enemy may do to an enemy, or a hater to a hater, an ill-directed mind inflicts on oneself greater harm" Hello Cerulean, I agree with your reasoning. It is about doing what makes sense to do. About the fact that Immanuel is less active on the forum, I think can be due to multiple reasons as for why. First of all, the simplest explanation is that Immanuel is busy, as an individual he has a life of his own, people shouldn't forget about that. The other reasons might be that Immanuel changed his point of view/stance on things and therefore right now is contemplating as to what to do further. Therefore, I am taking the chance if Immanuel if he will shares if his point of view changed. . Hello Wanderer and Cerulean, Yes, I have been less active on the forum and yes I have been busy with myself, but the facts have not changed, except that I sense that I fail to convey exactly what I mean when I say that "the instinct is the enemy". The thing is that it is not something sectarian, there is no habitual abstention and then something magical occurs, it is not about that essentially. One reason I have had to take a step back is that I have been at a stalemate when it comes to describing all this, it is an abstract topic and I need/ed better ways of conveying it without misconception. Focus must be on what we are first of all and the kind of two different factors; body and mind, where the mind is who you are while the body is just an attachment to your mind. The body is basically an animal, specially biologically engineered by supernatural means, it is more advanced than any other animal on Earth and so it is developed purposefully, it was specifically made for the human mind development process, which is more than an experiment even though I do not know the full background to how Elahem exists for what purpose, whoever knows must have been told as we cannot see beyond the boundaries. Why I say something along the lines of that "the instinct is an enemy" is because the instinct acts as a distraction, it persistently drives us to focus on what the animal body desires to do. Who can blame an animal for its doings? No one, it acts mindlessly according to what it is "programed" to do, only mental resistance can prevent this and that is our life force/power of being/existence (Being as translated often by me, the word in the Semitic origin is symbolized by the mysterious word Elah/Allah). This power that we may have is the power of being, it is the essence of the whole teaching and only personal development procedures will develop it. In this regard the instinct is a distraction as mentioned above, it seduces us, to lose, or never attain focus on what is important, by making us addicted to hormone releases within the body which brings pleasure and that is like a drug addiction. When addicted it clouds some or every ability to actually "command the ship" and steer it right. It takes great willpower to break loose, most importantly it is essential to understand that you are trapped like this and that it is not right. Most people on Earth chase after meaningless things to "feel good" but they do actually not mean a thing and furthermore they have diminishing returns, very little stimuli is required for it to lose meaning and a human seeks new things, and then new things, but is never satisfied fully. What I want to come to is that the consciousness, of varying degree, you experience is the real you whereas the body got nothing to do with you except that you are bound forcefully to it and have to endure its attempts of influence on your life. The mind grows by being used, it is like a weight lifter only gains more muscles when he/she is actually lifting the weights, if the human is not using the power of being then they do also not evolve. The "body-autonomous drive" runs by itself and to follow that, like the woman in traditional dance follows the man, is disastrous and does not activate the power of being to any valuable extent. When a person does actually rebel against the wishes of the body it trains the mind, and it becomes stronger just like the weight lifter's muscles, and it is easier to keep the body's grip off your mind and you will also become more perceptive of how it did affect you previously as a stronger power of being means it unclouds your mind, compare it to a light which becomes brighter and makes you see parts of your surroundings which were covered in darkness. Not only will you notice how ignorant you were but you will also see the mindless state of the greater part of humanity.. Free thinking helps the mind grow, the animal Homo sapiens is not capable of it just like any other animal and this is why human bodies are different from the other animals, as the minds enable us to think abstract thoughts not bound to the instinct, even though they can be tainted by the bodily instinct should we fail to keep those influences away. Being in command and with strict control over the instincts will improve the power of being. This is the only way. The execution is personal, there is no sect with a unique formula of religious practices, but the practitioner must keep in mind the essence of the truth about existence and not fool themselves to something which does not help. The teaching tells to proceed on a straight road, literally. A phrase says, 1:5-1:6 "Be thou devoted and thou art helped, led upon the right road." It continues: 1:7 "The road of people who indulge/immerse themselves brings a passion upon them and which is disorienting". The passage says just what I told about above in a lengthier format. Devoted to what you may wonder, it is about the development of being which you seek for, that you must learn. 1:1-1:2 "The condition for the Being totally complete entitlement, is learning to evolve." 1:3-1:4 "The totally complete master the aim of the system/practice" Summary is that it tells you to be devoted to evolving your mind/being. And you master the surrounding concerns related to it, basically what is not to be done as told in 1:7. The person is told to "master the aim of the control/practice" which is subtly saying like understand the underlying meaning behind the whole thing. Insufficient linguistic skill caused medieval clergymen to fail at the translation. Deen is actually a word coming from the root Yada which means to do by action. To understand the aim of the practice is crucial in order to master it. Not realizing about the instinct, that it is bad, it is a big handicap.
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 25, 2020 18:56:05 GMT
Immanuel do You have any idea or theory as to why our Creator goes to such extreme ways in order to get us (some of us, at least) to grow our life force/power of being/existence? What is such need for this procces? Logicalli speaking there might be beings who are extremely more superior to any being right now on earth. So why have us weaklings?
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 26, 2020 23:18:09 GMT
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 26, 2020 23:20:36 GMT
The drawing shows one perspective.ButIt is interesting how people usually are happy/grateful for coming into being, but start to curse the fact that they exists when things get sour.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 27, 2020 17:14:41 GMT
Hello,
The mystery of why this is the way it is, is disturbing yes, it troubles me too.
All around me are people who live their lives rarely even reflecting on where they are, what they do and why they do it, I have no wish to pursue one of those lives either.
The fact still remains that "they" do this for the development of minds. My understanding is that this environment is purposed to enable it, because mental resistance to a "conflicting drive" is much like the dumbbells a weight lifter lifts in order to get stronger.
Human science is counterproductive the way it melds body and mind into one entity rather than two separate phenomena. It obviously only counts what one can immediately observe, in that regard it is a logical conclusion, but as I have highlighted on this site it has logical inconsistencies and it cannot be the truth.
That still does not explain to what end they do this and I have no answer except qualified guesses. My thought is that they do this for the collective mind's (like a hive-mind) evolution. I have not excluded the possibility that there exists more than one Elahem and that there is more to existence and the world beyond ours than what we know. We are on the other hand within the mental projection of "our Elahem" and that is the world we live within. I have no clue about the relationship between any potential other "Elahems" and if it is friendly or hostile.
Personally I sometimes feel there is no good, existence is plain evil, or well it depends on the eye of the beholder I guess. What the Elahem do to us is not soft but painfully harsh, it is like we go through fire and hell. Is this treatment really necessary in order to have us evolve? Well, I could understand that the deception has to involve a bit of a mental challenge in order to have any effect and some of the world's encounters I do understand.
What troubles me is the brief communiques that Elahem had with me a few years ago and then they just left me like it. They did say I passed some test and I have felt clearer in my mind gradually for every passing year, but it has been silent from their end for some time now, they just let the "simulation" run with no visible interaction in it. The "simulation" is as prophesied by Isaiah, the world is going towards worse times than ever experienced on Earth and the prophecy told me some things I must keep in mind.
Wrong is to become affiliated with the emerging groups on Earth no matter the side they fight for. People fight for no sane goal at all mostly, mostly deranged with delusional objectives. We must try to remain neutral despite that everyone around us begin to pick sides in the worldwide conflict.
Reason? The rallying to choose those sides become instinctively stimulating, it is another test by Elahem. I do not know by someone else telling me, but my intuition based on the scenario tells that the relative prosperity with peace on Earth has been just another test, so it is a test on a test, or rather part of one and the same test. In case you have not noticed, the affinity between humans has been dying for years, it is a very divided humanity you observe. This was prophecied by Jesus too in the Gospels when he speaks about that even families will break up, father against son and son against father, he spoke about these days, it was prophecies he uttered.
So focus hard on how you begin to become passionate about some movement in your society. Know that this is a dangerous venture and may absorb your mind into mindless actions.
What I understand is that you must pick your fights very carefully, it must not be based on instinctive action. Fighting and anger is not good, the stimulus is just the passion the passage 1:7 speaks about, amongst other passions of course. Humans tend to enjoy violence on an instinctive level, this is a reason why violence is prominent in a grand majority of movies. Punish by violence is very common despite that what is punished for was not through violence. Revenge is easily sought by the way of violence.
Jesus was wise of course, he already prepared for this day spiritually when telling people to care for their enemies, see the world through the eyes of the enemies. We know he got hung up on a cross to die yes, but was he violent? No, he was not, mere words killed him. He has been criticized for just letting himself be killed or people do not belive he was crucified (Muslims) or that he was not a real prophet (Jews).
Be not angry with your brother/sister, he said. We know by my teaching what it does to us via the instinct, and the instinct was then known by the word Satan.
He rebuked his disciples for crying about why he must die, telling "begone (with) Satan!". He did rebuke him, Simon Peter, for his instinctive call. That seems very cold though for someone not knowing the context sufficiently. He did not burst out aggressively in the context but told him kindly to stop being instinctive, but of course he was bothered, thinking that his disciple had not learnt anything about life.
The lesson was similar to what we stand before today, when we are threatened do we pick up arms or will we be cautious? Will we let ourselves be rallied by those around us to join up in armed forces? What are we fighting for?
We fight for our masters, those who plot and scheme, and there is not really any purpose to fight for. Everyone has their deluded goal.
If you die in the right state of mind, you can let yourself be killed. But should we just let ourselves be enslaved? No, I did not say that, but the affinity to groups must really be thought through. Defense is one thing, offense is another.
The real point of the lesson is, do not activate the instinct unnecessarily. The human species is social in its nature, by the instinct, one of its natural enemies is its own easily rallied state of consciousness. Being drawn into things by your friends is easy and not always is what they do the most wise of things to do. Rarely in fact is it good to do like your friends, your worldly friends have their instinctively motivated habits.
Another social phenomenon is to be like your friends, this is a real death trap for your mind, just like being drawn into group conflicts. To pursue the same possessions as your neighbors just to possess them is natural for the human race. A modern example is the smartphone and that many buy comparing the model of others. Trends are disasters for our minds, avoid.
Is it not easiest to not have any friends at all, you might wonder? If you keep to yourself, you help no one, and apparently it is good to help as many as possible, because Elahem will surely not help people. Furthermore it is good to have exposure from other humans in order to provide stimuli to resist, total isolation from mankind is a tempting solution for some, but it is actually unwise for the mental development. This is why religious societies with women hiding their bodies etc, is no winning concept, it is good to practice when you have difficulty controlling yourself. When you have sin and vice around you, this can help you grow spiritually, ironically enough, if you keep resisting it.
Have greedy and rich people around you but do not fall for it? It is a perfect chance to grow spiritually, just do not be jealous and just run your race despite that people appear luckier than you. That people are lucky is just an illusion, they do not become truly lucky through their lives, the soul is crying. This is why many people in "good lives" become depressed. What does really depress is to live without knowing why you live, unless you are too absorbed that you have no moment to stop up and think.
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 28, 2020 0:08:15 GMT
Immanuel, or anyone who would like to hear a "fresh" scientific take on this, I highly recommend Daniel Hoffman’s The Case Against Reality www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Reality-Evolution-Truth/dp/0393254690Basically his premise is that the “reality” we all see is a user interface, or as I like to think, damn near like an MMO game... that the things you can see and interact with are “icons”, simply dumbed-down symbols that represent a true reality far too advanced and complicated for us to comprehend, just as a character in an MMO is actually a bunch of (to most of us) unintelligible code that makes no sense. There’s even some evidence to suggest that we “render” our visual world on demand; the amount of brain processing power it takes to simply look at the view in front of you appears to be far more than what one would expect, suggesting that unless you’re “looking” at something, it’s not there; you “create” this reality we see in real time. At least that’s his take! All I know is that everything I read about quantum mechanics, cognitive sciences, meditation and psychedelics all seem to be pointing to some kind of different reality than the one we see, and psychedelics might be one way to widen the window into that reality. Crazy stuff.
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 28, 2020 0:10:30 GMT
However, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT - To make sure that we don't indulge in our own fantasies and start believing in our own conjecture, which might be far from truth.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 28, 2020 20:18:50 GMT
Immanuel, or anyone who would like to hear a "fresh" scientific take on this, I highly recommend Daniel Hoffman’s The Case Against Reality www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Reality-Evolution-Truth/dp/0393254690Basically his premise is that the “reality” we all see is a user interface, or as I like to think, damn near like an MMO game... that the things you can see and interact with are “icons”, simply dumbed-down symbols that represent a true reality far too advanced and complicated for us to comprehend, just as a character in an MMO is actually a bunch of (to most of us) unintelligible code that makes no sense. There’s even some evidence to suggest that we “render” our visual world on demand; the amount of brain processing power it takes to simply look at the view in front of you appears to be far more than what one would expect, suggesting that unless you’re “looking” at something, it’s not there; you “create” this reality we see in real time. At least that’s his take! All I know is that everything I read about quantum mechanics, cognitive sciences, meditation and psychedelics all seem to be pointing to some kind of different reality than the one we see, and psychedelics might be one way to widen the window into that reality. Crazy stuff. It is true, the world would look very different if we did not look at it the way our eyes present it to us. I have philosophied before openly about just quantum mechanics and that the world is basically just a projection of energy, or emerging light, taking into consideration the atoms of the universe. The more one studies the harder it is to actually deny that there would be anything beyond this universe. Energy, or the emerging light, does not seem to vanish, just take a different form, but light is just a way we can experience this force or energy, we can actually not tell what the energy really is from our observation via quantum mechanics, just that it is there, and we will never find an answer either unless we begin to accept the fact that the universe is a projection of a god-like collective mind (hive mind) based on their mental power and consensus on what is meant to be. When we look at the smallest particle of the universe, light or energy, we will hence never make sense of it from a scientific standpoint since science cannot study something as abstract as it, you need to draw a logical conclusion on something you cannot study any further without escaping the boundaries of that world, and that takes theory with no way of proving it empirically i.e. you need to use logical deduction and reach a conclusion. This is also why you can never prove to someone who does not want to believe, that "God" exists, or whatever word to use to describe the phenomenon often called "god". On this forum I have tried to provide means to prove to oneself through logic why the supernatural source must exist and why on the contrary it is illogical not to believe in it. Just by looking at who you are you can find your origin, just as Jesus said, through poor translations, when he said if you find yourself you will find the father, i.e. if you look within yourself and your mind you can reassure yourself that you are of a supernatural origin rather than a primitive animal called Homo sapiens - a kind of evolved ape, which is actually biologically engineered via a phenomenon called "natural evolution" specifically for the purpose of hosting the human mind, but who do you think control this "natural evolution"? This is also why on Earth you find just one being which is even close to the superiority of specimen as the Homo sapiens creature. People never ask themselves why just the Homo sapiens is the way it is, it is not a coincidence. I can tell you, without the human mind attached to it, it would be vastly more primitive than it is, and this is also why more poorly evolved minds appear to be acting more primate-like in their respective bodies, some do not even seem to be more than talking apes.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 28, 2020 20:59:49 GMT
However, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT - To make sure that we don't indulge in our own fantasies and start believing in our own conjecture, which might be far from truth. Toying with thoughts in your mind is not bad, but logic is of the essence. I have stressed about the importance of logic a lot on this forum through every other post I make. You can make endless theses and the more you think the merrier, but at the end of the day you must contemplate upon everything you think about and analyze it objectively through logic. Much of my progress has been made by merely creating dozens of different possible scenarios and then using logical deduction to narrow them all down to just one or two possible cases, giving a lot of progress through toying with different ideas. For example, what we have written about the probability of the existence of a supernatural source is the result of much reflection on lots of different logic-strengthening variables, it comes down to what is most plausible at the end of the day. Of course, we have been long-term believers that there exists something beyond the ordinary, a "god" of sorts and this could be counted as a bias, but on the other hand logic is very unforgiving to conjecture as it is cold and sterile and there is no room for emotion, the emotional one will fail the path of logic, ironically Commander Spock in the Star Trek universe was right about this (joke). In order to be logical each and everyone has to suppress every emotion that they may have about something, any emotional attachment to a doctrine or teaching that is taken as dogma (an unquestionable truth). In a way it is good to refer to Jesus when he speaks about children and that people have to approach it like children, the mental image must be free of bias and preconception but rather thinking like a child without a false teacher first brainwashing them, although of course a young child would lack any sort of background to what they are supposed to learn, but I think a teenager is a good age to liberate your mind since you make your own summary, and that was what I did when I was a teenager although I got lost thinking about space aliens and things at first, arriving more rationally on some kind of supernatural being later on. I had some kind of gift though, perhaps sanctioned by Elahem, and I always never listened to anyone about what they said about things without verifying it also carefully first, I always ran my own race. People often fail because they begin to listen to much to what other people say and/or they wander off, often led by the instinct, to life goals not derived from proper logic. It is easy to observe people who are lost in their minds and follow some doctrine blindly, and it is virtually impossible to change their minds by any sound argument. One important thing why people continue with something devasting for their minds is this: It feels good, it gives reward through the flush of hormones and hence it must be right, according to them, the sensation of good means it must be good for them and they believe "God" rewards them for being on the "right path". Then it is easy for them to think other people are not on the right path as they believe they are right, because they must be right as they feel so good in their sect with their doctrine. Most religions also enforce that one should never question anything in the sects, it becomes a fear about risking everything they have accumulated for themselves and hence they also never try something else, because they might be lured away by Satan, for example depending on religion. Another issue is the strength of group association, if millions of people agree on that a religious scripture and its interpretation is authentically supernatural in origin, they choose it because they are naively believing it cannot be wrong because the masters of the religion seem to know about their thing of interpreting the religion and the religious scripture. Islam is an example of a religion based on entirely on someone's conjecture in the first millennium A.D. and they did absolutely not even try to interpret the Arabic passages truthfully, they did just try to fit their understanding into the words rather than the opposite. It shows that the author of the interpretation had a personal vendetta with the Jewish doctrine but did also believe that the Christian faith was wrong but more kind towards them which is apparent if one reads the traditional interpretation of Quran. The author of the interpretation did their best to paint the Jews black via the Arabic script, totally unsupported by what the text really says, they just invented meanings for whole chapters. If you have read my reinterpreted Quran project file, you can get an idea about what that scripture does actually contain. This is also why Quran, from an objective standpoint, is incoherent in its traditional interpretation and actually speaks mostly of nonsense and jumps from context to context in an irregular manner, which does not make much sense. Furthermore if you have never reflected on it, the book does actually sound horribly aggressive, incompatible with what Jesus said about caring about your brother and also your enemy, it actually goes straight against what Jesus taught, but of course the Muslims talk that away by rather rejecting the Gospels as manipulated than actually questioning where the problem lies. The Gospels are not wonderfully translated and interpreted, but they do represent what Jesus actually spoke more than Quran in its traditional interpretation. It shines through in the Gospels that Jesus refers much to what you do with your body and mind, it is more or less the essence of his teaching, however the "God" worship is based on misinterpretations about what the original Greek says. We know that Elah is by no means referring to "God" and Elahem is a reference to a joint of gods, so to say.
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Post by Wanderer on Sept 28, 2020 21:31:52 GMT
Since the 1950s, college students have studied the psychological speculations of Abraham Maslow, absorbed the ideas of "self-actualization,". The gist of his story, described in detail in his 1954 book, Motivation and Personality, is this: People are motivated to pursue different needs at different points in their development. The basic issue is what he calls the physiological, in which one's needs for survival must be met. The second issue is safety needs. These can take the form of an infant's healthy attachment to the mother, having enough money in the bank to be secure, and having a degree of physical health. Social belonging is next, characterized by a need for harmony in one's family, friendships, and community relationships. Peace in one's environment is the key. The fourth point on the pyramid is the need to be esteemed, to be recognized by others, and have one's ego not be threatened by disrespect or an unjust lack of recognition. The top of the hierarchy, only made possible if the other motivational issues are met and mastered, is self-actualization. This includes the need to be creative, spontaneous, and to try to be one's best self. A person now is free to achieve one's own stated desires. An athlete is free to be the best on the team, a parent is free to become the very best parent to the children, the business-minded person etc. Later in his career, Maslow discussed a sixth point in the hierarchy: transcendence, in which self-giving is paramount. This includes the quest to know the spiritual dimension of life on earth and beyond. As the philosopher Leonard Geller points out, the impetus for these growth needs resides within the person. It is the person who strives for greater mastery of each need. On the other hand, when the needs are frustrated, it is the environment that is to blame because circumstances and other people are what blocks the developing person, creating what is called "deficit needs," or the motivation to be free from the frustration or even hatred. The deficit needs, in other words, are in the hands of other people, not within the developing person. Yet, even when the deficit needs are met (overcoming hunger or low wage, for example), many people, especially in the West, suffer from "anomie, alienation, boredom, apathy, meaningless, and despair". It is striking for Maslow's theory that First World countries, where so many people's basic needs are met, experience considerably higher divorce rates. Within the United States, it is those with more money and a more stable economic situation who have higher suicide rates than those from the lower socio-economic strata.
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Post by Immanuel on Dec 24, 2020 16:56:38 GMT
The subconscious mind is for a "sleeping person" the real person while an awakened person has the "body's consciousness" being their subconsciousness. A sleeping person will grow depressed when being immersed into this world because while the body enjoys itself the mind seed being in their subconsciousness is suffering. No human is truly happy in an immersion into this world, if they believe they are they have fooled themselves into this belief.
Having time for reflection because you live in a great welfare state will naturally cause depression to surface as you are not focused on the immediate crises at hand and have time for reflection while awake in the body. When your mind is immersed very much into this world you become blind to the depression, the immersion is like an escape from it, like a drug. Ironically sadness is not always a bad thing, it is not always good to chase after what may cause superficial happiness, particularly when it is worldly happiness in items and status.
It could be better to deal with the depression and sadness than to occupy the mind in what the world has to offer to remove the sadness. Dealing with the sadness through repeating to yourself the truth about our existence may help. Eventually the world may make you sad nevertheless and then you simply have to endure. Mental excellence is a way to pass your time, focus on improving your mind. Remember what gives you mental development is what is most depressing for the body, namely forced abstention from what gives it stimulation, so it may not be immediately rewarding but rather the opposite because the body seeks a flow of hormones.
The truth is painful to where we are right now, but live in pain now and the future will be less painful, while for those who try to remove the pain now will have to endure more pain later on, and remember that the pleasantries of this world suffer from diminishing returns and are addicting. Did not Jesus say something similar?
Immersing oneself a little is dangerous, it is very easy to get absorbed utterly. I have myself experienced that. The harsh truth is that oftentimes total abstention is the only way to abstain or just fall back into old habits.
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