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Post by Immanuel on Sept 1, 2021 13:29:59 GMT
You said beautiful scenery by the way, you would not have to paint the beautiful tree on a paper, you could design the whole tree from inside out yourself. It is not like you will not see nice things because you ascend. I have tried to describe that it is not a dull form of existence that you transcend to, quite the opposite. It is more "cool" than the best of video games because you can basically see things materialize in front of you, try to imagine that you program games but instead of requiring input devices such as mouse and keyboard you are inside that little code instead typing it with your mind and projecting the game world, just the way as our world on Earth is generated. And do you really have doubts about that or are you "pulling my leg"? There are no doubts, it was a for me a way to express the idea of indulgence when it doesn't impact anyone outside the person acting on it. And the idea that indulging too much whether it be on games, food or something else, it doesn't have to have negative consequences but in this world it does. So an example is if the negatives are removed from it, what is bad (so for food if you take away the weight gain, diseases associated with obesity, what then makes it a 'sin'). And yes I'm guessing art pictures and other forms of creativity are from the soul and not the primate, and the human is limited by this so painting is required to show it, but in soul form this creativity can be done without limits. Certain activities are required by nature such as eating and sleeping and life on Earth is dull (at least for a tired soul like me) so I find no reason to make it even more dull by depriving oneself from food which tastes well like many religionists do. Jesus that you might know about did even (slightly sarcastically) highlight that it does not matter what goes in through the mouth but more about what comes out of it, and he was including the empowered actions from being energized by the food. The sometimes torturous behavior of "spiritual" people does also render instinctive abstention a bad image, they often emphasize on the wrong things. What I am doing and those who follow me are doing is far from torture nor is it painful in any way either. When one has done this that we do for a while, often years, they will often ask themselves why they did not do this before, the spiritual ascension can be felt and you will remember your old self and see how predetermined your actions were and how you were acting according to your instincts to a greater extent. I have mentioned about reincarnation and thus of course we are all born in different conditions, the partial corporeal detachment i.e. power over instinct, is greater in some individuals than others from birth and a strong detachment usually leads to quite some confusion in life because they can feel the difference between themselves and others which can lead to a form of alienation. About that I am speaking from own experiences, I am a pretty complete soul but was born amidst the chaos of atheism and corporeal goals being most accepted. If I had been born among spiritually deep people it could have helped, although on a second thought it might have been the intention because virtually everyone on Earth is misguided when it comes to the prescribed spiritual methods so it might have been best for me to grow up in a totally spiritually isolated environment, so that might have been the reason behind it as per 'Those Who Are Being'. It helps growing up unbiased as I was never indoctrinated into any religion but thanks to my ascended soul I have been able to accept that there is a supernatural phenomenon behind existence, just as certain other people have too. As per my estimation there are lots of people on Earth who have a real spiritual growth but not close enough for qualification to the "High Realm", as the amount of misguidance in the world makes them not progress any further. Do not get this all wrong, established religions may lead to a gradual spiritual growth but because they "miss the point" in many regards it is not a "complete training" and often they practice nonsensical rituals with no meaning often due to a misguided belief that the supernatural being requires worship. This prescription I have from the legacy is required in order to finalize the soul and there is no other way and the prescription is really simple too, simple in instruction but hard in execution. The instinct must be controlled, it is the exercised control over it which gives advances to the mind. Any control over instinct which offered some resistance will push a growth to the mind, so to say. As I have mentioned before, the weight lifter is a good metaphor here, when the muscles have grown stronger it does not help to lift a 1 kg dumbbell anymore, the muscles will not grow anymore although they will be able to endure more from the exercise, and the same logic applies to the mind over body instruction. Regular exercise of the mind without giving in to the instinct helps keeping the mind in shape and pushing heavier instincts away will also make the mind stronger. It means that for a weak mind even the easiest of instincts is an accomplishment to overcome, it can be good that the progress is so linear. People with a religious thinking might start with sex, food and drinks but that is a hard start as it is so deeply rooted in the body's physiology, it is easier to begin with something which is not so overwhelming and only slowly trying to be moderate about the regulation of sex, food and drinks, it is not necessary to cease the activities entirely, for the animal you are in that is more or less as mundane as going to sleep is. It is good to start with the 'List of Ten' instead where food and drink is not even listed, nor is sex. The instinctive urges to: Dominate, abuse, greed, gain advantage of, and gain social status, these are all more important than what religious people are obsessed with usually, and they are right on that list! I tend to say that the final five lines have one do and four do not's and all five speak about people around you (your neighbor it is written which means that). Treat your neighbor as if it was yourself, but do not dominate ( him/her), do not abuse ( him/her), do not greed for/from ( him/her), do not gain advantage of ( him/her) and do not seek your neighbor's vanity. This original segment of text was originally part of the same sentence, the final "do not covet your neighbor's..." helps showing that. That is a pretty simple start and the instinct is strongest on domination of them, the rest of the lines are usually due to the domination line. If you cease wanting to dominate others then the other lines will automatically be remedied as well as there is less instinctive motivation for it. For example, you do not seek to have a nicer car or nicer smartphone than your neighbor if you do not compete with him in terms of the domination instinct. So the domination desire of the Homo sapiens can be perceived as the root of all evil basically when it comes to the instinct. If you then follow the "fifth commandment", much like Jesus emphasized, it is much harder to feel the urge to dominate others if you see your neighbor at the same level as yourself. All the pieces about the arguments of Jesus fall together with these further explanations. So I would say that anyone beginning with the fight over instinctive emotion should begin with the domination instinct as it has such overall benefit over the whole list of instincts. Remember that if you decide to pursue a new life there is some sacrifices to be made, you can no longer participate in competitive sports and not even head-to-head games, those things are driven by the instinct when you are seeking to win, and it might seem innocent and ridiculous but there is a serious implication here. In what I just mentioned, you cannot even play so-called PvP games on a computer or console which can be a real sacrifice to some people and cause a loss of social interaction opportunities. When playing PvE games you must also pay attention to your instinctive behavior, also winning against an artificial opponent still triggers the instinct and it does not have to do with that it is versus living opponents, but the PvP games tend to be the worst because the brain can sense the difference that it is a real humanoid as the opponent and drive up on rivalry just as bulls are fighting in the meadow to show who is strongest, it occurs subconsciously. Yes there are things that might sound ridiculous but when explained it is possible to understand the logic and reason behind it. It is a sacrifice not to play games or participate in sports, unless you can do it without competing while you do it but that is hard although when things are hard the spiritual reward is also greater. After all, games and sports are about winning, but it can be a thing to participate in various activities as good as you can while having an intensive control over instinct that you are not doing it to win, but I suspect it is really hard and then that is harder than if you abstain fully. Personally I decided to never join any game or sports where you play against anyone. Sometimes hard to explain to others as they do not understand and some may think I am a coward while it is not about it. It may hurt social interaction as I lose out on opportunities to socialize through the activities, but I get by and it can be good to also practice social abstention because it is actually instinctively motivated, but the animal Homo sapiens itself does not feel too good about it, although being dictated by the body is all about this, if you can steer your mind away from it, that is good. Every time you can force the body to not do according to its instinctive feelings the mental muscles are growing. It is always a balance between not putting the body Homo sapiens in distress versus exercising control. That balance is also about having control. A warning sign is if you feel the mental symptom of anxiety, then you might push it too far and because of your detachment from the body you might have difficulty to understand where the anxiety comes from as the body and you are two different things. It has to be investigated by you.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 1, 2021 15:10:15 GMT
A question on this. So could a new soul be given a life of poverty and helplessness, even if they did not exist before. Meaning they are facing a consequence that is not from them. I say this because many people on this planet are below the poverty line, it doesnt have to be poverty you can include disability aswell. The point is that if a soul starts at point 0, how would it be fair for them to start in a place not befitting to start i.e. born in poverty. It may even mean from what you're saying I presume that 1. the people born in poverty/disabled/poor upbringing are all previous souls, 2. people in this situation are new souls. No I cannot see that a new soul is placed in a miserable situation, it is probably placed in a neutral condition in a developed country somewhere e.g. middle-class. People born in extraordinarily bad conditions are souls that performed poorly previously. I doubt there are many new souls around these days. The system they ('Those Who Are Being') have used probably meant that in the beginning of human history the souls lived with long time spans between spawns and now they live more intensively the larger the Earth population becomes. The world mankind has created with the guidance of 'Those Who Are Being' in terms of technology, imaginary ideas about no physical genders etc, is also distressful for the Homo sapient body which was not designed for such a lifestyle as it is just an animal, its physiology requires respect to its biological needs. The conflict causing this is the interaction, or lack thereof, between mind and body. The camp claiming that the gender/biological sex is a social construct is loosely right, the mind is asexual as it is not even a biological organism, but the body very much is gendered and will feel in distress if it as an animal is not being expressed according to its biology. These people are completely unaware of that they are right as per the truth behind existence when it told it has a gender as part of the society but it is also through biology. We can act like either gender very well because the mind is relatively free-willed (even in lesser evolved individuals yes) and we can do anything that is typical of the other gender, but not always will be body be very pleased about neglecting its biological call. An animal does not have "opinions" per se, it has nothing it will put up against the mind, but just suffer which will cause its client (the human soul) to get signals of depression for example and the body will refuse to function properly. My point is, the development which has taken place in the world is not always good in all aspects but quite the contrary. It is actually on the verge of a collapse because of it. The reason is the more developed souls are without grasping the truth the more confused they become as they do not understand what they are and why they are here. And then they have under-developed souls in for example Asia (mostly west Asia) and Africa that they treat as if they are on the same level as themselves but these people mostly follow the instincts i.e. the good shape souls are born as per the Karma system in the developed part of the world but they let hollow souls migrate to it while those that moved cannot be expected to act like themselves. Ah yes, this can be seen as seeing racism on an entirely new level but one has to face the truth. Much on Earth is about balance and a Karma system can be sensitive, meaning intensive migration on Earth can cause an imbalance in the world, and that together with ignorance can be devastating and that is exactly what is happening in the world. And all the fault is that people are NOT knowing that you have two different entities in every single person on Earth, a human is both mind and body. They do not know about the Karma system. In defense of myself before anyone calls me racist is that the soul condition DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BODY i.e. ethnicity on Earth but about life condition as a result of the Karma system, a successful Afghan diplomat can have a fine looking soul or an Iranian doctor being really good at what he does can mean the same. There are many black people who have come very far, Barack Obama was the president of the United States, while many racists ascribe inferiority on the African people for their ethnicity. When the Egyptian Empire was at the height of its success 4000 years ago then the likelihood a successful soul was in Egypt was very high while it would have been much lower in for example where Sweden is today and these people were all with darker skin than "the white man". The Persian Empire the same, tanned individuals, likelihood of developed souls being in the Middle-East was very high while elsewhere it was usually lower likelihood. And the Roman Empire and onwards after that it was just the same, the location of developed souls have entirely to do with the most successful individuals on Earth. This is also the reason for a declining empire because the more poorly handled the empire is the more underdeveloped souls are born there until it tips over. Per that logic, the United States is also an empire and it is also a declining empire because people are not handling it as it should, most importantly developed people higher in the Karma system are allowing underdeveloped people in the Karma system determine things and cause mayhem due to their own instinctive systems. The world requires high developed souls to maintain power and do it well in order to function well, because broken souls born "low caste" (as the Hindus call it) are full of instincts, they have difficulty handling them and they will always chase after domination most of all, remember the previous post/lesson and their minds are not functioning. Ironically, the above means that a public democracy is not an ideal idea, but the risk with dictatorship is that a hollow soul assumes control. Like I wrote, the Earth requires a delicate balance and this balance is easily disturbed. In the end, the world cannot have all rich people, there will always have to be poor people and the ultimate goal to intensively combat global poverty is futile BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THE KARMA SYSTEM, the system simply does cause people to suffer somewhere. It is also a dangerous venture to bring those poor people to a rich part of the world because it does not automatically change their minds but they will still be the same underdeveloped people with cars, money and all that, and an animal does not have morals meaning criminal behavior may emerge in the society, especially when the instinct of domination and social status comes into play because that is not the same as morals. This balance is also a reason for people being sent to different places by the Karma system in the first place. If you read the gospels you can see Jesus cynically say "... the poor people will always be with you" and that was roughly 2000 years ago and he would have lied if you could eradicate poverty today year 2021. The best thing on Earth to do is to spread knowledge about the mind and body not being the same entity, the truth about existence and help people acknowledge that the instinct is their biggest problem in life. No one needs money as long as they have food on the table and somewhere safe to sleep. But unconditional mixing of people with various Karma levels is devastating, that is why Hindu people more or less mistreat people of different castes and do not allow marriages between them, but I would say you should never mistreat another person even if their soul integrity is worse than yours. And your fine development might help your spouse grow if you marry someone from a lower level, but you need to be aware of it and accept you need to be the guide and that is arranged in the marriage agreements between you and the spouse, something which might be difficult if a woman is the more developed while the man is of inferior development as the biological orientation is that the man is the leader, it takes enough development in the man to allow humbleness, and even if the woman is not biologically fit her asexual mind can be enough, but it TAKES AWARENESS of how things work. Helping another human grow spiritually is commendable, nothing is better, you can throw a fortune in cash over another and still it is worth nothing compared to helping someone evolve spiritually. So many factors count in concerning what status the Earth has, 'Those Who Are Being' have also composed a lore for it (called prophecy in tradition) which is being followed and which affects what people do instinctively. Right now the Earth is derailing into a world-wide conflict of which proportion no one has ever seen before and one of the igniting reasons is deluded ideas about humanism connected to what I have just written here, people will eventually begin to fight violently over it.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 1, 2021 17:47:32 GMT
And yes I'm guessing art pictures and other forms of creativity are from the soul and not the primate, and the human is limited by this so painting is required to show it, but in soul form this creativity can be done without limits. Yes. Without the mind, the Homo sapient body has no creativity, it will create things like animals e.g. a spider weaves the same pattern of web, a wasp will build the same design of nest etc, none of which is creativity. Instead what they do is the creativity of their makers within 'Those Who Are Being' as a fixed design. That is why I told about instead of painting a tree, the Ascended Mind will make the whole tree itself later on. but to be apart of the system that subjects souls to disease/pain I dont think that is something to get behind, unless I'm missing something. Please add the Karma system to this argument. Anyways, you see what you see, the world is full of calamity and it needs an explanation. Remember always: "Question, question, question!" Logic says it fine if we look at that people are born in wildly different situations we see that it is unfair right when we look it. There is no denying in that, you cannot escape the fact. It needs an explanation. People will need to have done something wrong previously. Even if you do not remember that you did something wrong does not mean you must not suffer the consequences, it is like that you intoxicate yourself in drugs and then when you get out of it you blame it on the drugs. No matter who you are under those drugs it is still you who were responsible. Because it was you who did wrong no matter if you remember it or not. That you do not remember anything is a protective system while you maybe look at it as an unfair handicap, if you carry on with the same bias and as the same person you will likely do exactly the same mistakes as you did previously and the reason you are not in the "High Realm", this is the reason for the complete memory suppression and character change. Your mental condition is retained meaning with a decent amount of progress you can pick up where you left when you died, hopefully at least, but point is that your mental condition is not degraded from being reincarnated. Helping poor people financially may alleviate some pain they are in e.g. that they are starving, but the only way to help them long-term is to make them change their ways in order to affect their minds in a positive manner. When cutting the instinct, I think of not showing off and instead giving to charity, or not looking down on the poorly as there are many factors in life to have a higher standard of living or quality of life, luck, parents upbringing, education, friends, yourself, genetics, along with stages in the life and decisions made so all these variables contribute, at least academically if someone were to model 'wealth/health/comfort'. This prescription has nothing to do with morality, even if morality is good, but about the pushing away of the instincts using the mind. You can give millions after millions to poor people but it will only affect your mind slightly because greed is just one aspect of the whole issue, the mental growth is also not exponential to how much you give but more about how much you lose from the giving. A poor person offering shelter to another poor person even if it costs them dearly is acting against the instinct, but if you give to someone who was actually better off than you it is just stupidity. However, no matter how much you show you have no greed, it is only helping your mind that far, there are other factors you have to deal with yourself. Most importantly, giving you the opportunity to climb socially and you take it and then forget how you were because you have things and do not have to maintain relations to that poor family you helped anymore, to make sure you have yourself help when you need, you will just show your hypocrisy and that you only helped in order to maintain your face before people e.g. people may help people just in order to prepare that people may help them in return if they need i.e. there is an egotistical motivation behind the "charity". Giving charity is often a way to gain social status because it attributes goodliness to you. Charity is given best when you tell nothing of it and no one knows, barely yourself, but I would make sure the donation reaches the right person. You wrote about factors to give yourself a better quality of life, but chasing after that too much is vain. There is so much you do not actually need. The less you can learn to live with the better, but even I have some "quality of life" factors in my life although I try to not lure myself into more, there is none of that you hoard through your life that you will take with you in death. If you put your mind to it you can actually sense how little you need in order to be happy, the body itself would be happy enough in a cave under the right conditions, unhappiness is not always generated due to lack of luxuries but from comparing yourself to others, social norms and "failure to meet them" i.e. expectations. If you knew about nothing else and lived in a cave, you could potentially be very happy regardless and you could learn things and you could practice on not giving in to the instincts if your father and mother taught you that in your civilization. What is taught in your society is very important too besides your soul status, but that is why the Karma system places you where it would be fair to you. A rich legacy is very important, a historical background with firmly recorded data where you can read/listen to why your ancestors did why they did is important, or it helps very much anyways. My argument above is that your way of thinking is truly the most important thing in the world in order for you to be happy. Expectations can be one of the most disastrous thoughts to think. It is dangerous to expect things. When one expects something it easily leads to sadness. Or you could instead expect anything, it might be even better than to not have any expectations, because then you are equipped to meet the unpredictable, yet ironically very predictable if you know the full background, real world. Happiness is when you sense that you have what you need, you are complete. To then expect that you have more is not helping you. Keeping yourself on a low level of expectations in life helps the mood meter. Listen: "I expect myself to have a spouse and kids before I am 30." "I expect to have a good paying job when I finish this education." "I expect the government to help me if I need help." "I expect that in a few years I will buy a new Audi." "I expect everyone to treat me fairly and nicely." "I expect myself to work hard and show I am a good person." "I expect to progress in social status." "I expect that for what I do I will become famous." "I expect my son/daughter to not become a criminal/drug addict when he/she grows up." A typical human is full of these expectations throughout its life. It gives itself more and more expectations and the expectations continue to flood in when another expectation is realized. These continuous expectations hamper the ability to feel happy because a happy person is the person who feels they are complete. Many people even have expectations that cannot be fulfilled, unrealistic, or they expect things which are healthier to not expect such as that the government will help you, and when they continuously become not met this creates not only a lack of happiness but the person becomes unhappy. This is why I say it is best to avoid expectations. Stress about meeting expectations may also induce unhappiness. It is disastrous to feel that you are a failure. The things you might want to have such as a shelter and food, personal development etc, is best perceived as aims that you are determined about but expect nothing. When you minimize your expectations, without lying to yourself that you have, then you can feel happiness even without being rich or having any particular social status, it can reach to a certain amount of pride in yourself, pride which is a no-go in religions but a misunderstood/misinterpreted term and in direct contrast to arrogance which is the negative form of pride. True pride does not mean anyone else gives you the pride but that you are proud of yourself, it is self-respect. Self-esteem is important unless it becomes arrogance. Pride does not mean you cannot listen to others but simply that you are content about who you are. With modest expectations it is easier to feel proud, comparing yourself to others is the easiest way to lose your pride. But all of this world feels off, a 'blessing' because I have eyes... but some don't, I have ears... but some don't, have enough to give to charity but knowing I can't help enough and people are struggling. But then if anyone can become Allahem, this is not what to be sad about? So I ask the question of why and I'm looking for answers. And your study and translation on the quran/manifestation resonated. Years ago, it took me a good few years searching for many questions on the translation to end up monitoring your translation and this forum This world is a marvel, not a blessing. It is a "cool" creation which may very well provide for its inhabitants and one may build in it as if it would be Lego, but it would be way "cooler" to be the one making the Lego blocks. Beneath how the Earth looks and seems like a nice place one has to observe its backsides, it is not designed as a paradise. Asking why is very good, it is more than what many other people do. And even if they ask why they settle at "simpleton" answers, it is important to ask "why, why, why, why" and the answers have to be logical. Clergymen and religious people will become angry if you do this. Questioning why you should worship "God" is a real no-go, it is really offensive, no one wants to try to answer it except "because God commanded it" and accepts no further "why". "God commanded it" reveals a very narrow-minded deity with a big ego, and to use that (flawed) logic further means that the deity is a copy of a typical human and has instinctive emotions i.e. it is primitive and not sophisticated at all and people can actually be better than it. Logic is a chain of questions related to how things work. It felt good for me when I started working on the project that "God" is only directly addressed very seldom in the Manifestation, only a few times, actually five times, throughout the whole scripture. When this scripture uses Al'La'Hem, then it means it addresses 'Those Who Are Being' meaning "God" basically. Funnily, when I checked for the number of occurrences I saw this phrase: اللهم مالك الملك which means something like "'Those Who Are Being' are controlling the control(s)." basically. Always hard to render anything in that tongue into English. It was just a phrase, it needs of course the whole context. The phrase might also mean that 'Those Who Are Being' are mastering the masters but that is not the literal translation since El-Melak is an attribute not in reference to a person, it is intransitive. My first example is therefore better, but it consequently means that a person cannot take the controls, Arabic focuses VERY LITTLE on objects, it always tries to stay abstract when an object is irrelevant, because Arabic is to be read in an abstract sense overall, it is a supernatural language made by them. The reason for the few mentions is that they know the worship factor becomes a problem. Despite that the old interpreters of it managed to find "God" many hundreds of times in it in many different words. A true seeker to join 'Those Who Are Being' will not need to be reminded of it and practices are much more important than this remembrance too.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 1, 2021 19:23:05 GMT
Question, are apes sentient or are they still robot-like? Orangutans seem very human-like, i.e. quite aware No. Apes are not sentient. Homo sapiens would not be sentient either without the human soul. The Homo sapiens species is specifically engineered for the purpose to host the human souls, so it has some "special effects" i.e. no fully covering hair/fur, it looks more stream-lined, skin adapted to not having any fur, upright movement on two legs and motor skill. It means it is adapted to host a being which is not an animal, but how would it would behave if it suddenly lost its human client completely and "was running" on it own? Seeing very underdeveloped people gives a hint to how they act, those that more or less appear to not have any soul are good study objects. The innate instinct of the human can help to predict how it would act if you laid down all your resistance to its instincts and let it do what it would do by nature. Not surprisingly it would be quite barbaric and do quite nasty things if it can, there would be no artificial "moral code" to conform to although it is a social animal and the dominant alpha-male would put you down unless you can overcome him. The female would be subjected to the male and under its dominance. It would function on a higher level than the (other) apes in nature thanks to the big sophisticated brain. The consequence that females in under-developed countries on Earth are subjected to males is because of the instinct, domination and social hierarchies depend on raw strength. Possibly the integration human brain and mind is tailored in such a way it cannot function without it and would hence lose its ability to use a language as it cannot invent a language without creativity unless it had one instinctive. Like I wrote, the Homo sapient body is engineered for the purpose and is not a standard animal to exist in nature and it is poorly equipped as an animal without higher mental functions, no armor and the off-spring requires many years where it is defenseless etc, it is designed for delicate sophisticated thought-through actions and to design itself tools or complex maneuvers with the hands to help it (see the hands for example). The above arguments are also good for a logical thinking about whether the supernatural exists and if the human body Homo sapiens is really a standard animal or something else more or less made to not be an animal. Hello Immanuel again, may I please ask you to elaborate this that you said : " I have to outsmart everything with a predetermined succession of events. If 'Those Who Are Being' wills something the saying "resistance is futile" is absolute, but fortunately the script has made it possible to somehow survive anyways, just like Jean-Luc Picard and Kathryn Janeway manage to defeat the Borg against all odds finding a few scripted slightly ridiculous weaknesses considered the Borg's superior combined intelligence. What I just wrote requires some insight into the science-fiction series Star Trek to understand fully." Do you mean you have to outsmart Elohim? I think the way you copy-pasted it took it out of the context. If I remember correctly I was writing about the silliness of prophecies that are "scripted" in a particular manner and as we know you cannot evade the force of the prophecies, but they also tend to be written in such a way that some ridiculous loopholes might be present. In movies the heroes often manage to achieve their goals in some unrealistic manner. I had been writing about that everything can change at any time in history even if it was in a particular manner before, it is fully plausible. The Manifestation has been written with extreme guile and there it takes to outsmart the agenda. A whole religion is based on that book including a whole interpretation and even a language is falsely based on it. That is unbelievable for most people to the point of impossible. It is absurd if I may put it that way. I admit I am in a difficult seat even if I can see through the corruption when it comes to convincing even a single person on Earth that it is so because it does not add up when immediately looking at it and it requires a lot of investigation to reveal that it is so. Because I am like this it is difficult for me to understand why other people cannot understand it and yet I am Emanu'el, the understander-like. Well, I understand that simpletons cannot grasp it. What I have had trouble understanding is why I am so gifted at "seeing through the charade", that I can see that someone just placed a false interpretation on top of an innocent text merely through observation. I very early grew suspicious about 12 years ago when I first got my hand on the book, I thought the consistency of sentences was lousy in it, even if we excluded that it spoke of a lot of nonsense and enforced religious worship. I saw that no author would write a book like that. At one point I was at a crossroads whether to either abandon that book entirely without investigation of it or to devote my life to it and check if my suspicions were correct i.e. that someone simply placed an interpretation, invented a language, on top of something entirely different. Early on I doubted myself and wondered if I had been mistaken, but as I managed to learn more linguistics I could begin to see the whole sentences and decipher them into translations. It confirmed a mix between several religions, that fragments of each faith were from the original legacy and people changed parts in order to fit their own deluded ideas. Much of what the Manifestation talks about exists in Hinduism and to some extent Buddhism, it speaks about reincarnation, about becoming complete and totally cleanse yourself from your ego although it appears that they often miss the point, they often claim you need to relinquish your Being which is a misconception probably based on a misunderstanding somewhere upon time. What their faith should have said in its pure state was to relinquish the instinct in order to seize the conscious being and truly be someone. There was little logic and consistence, many words were cherrypicked to mean different things in different contexts. I investigated and eventually found out that the language has an innate feature I called the 'Innate Letter Meaning' (ILM) meaning the Semitic alphabet has symbols/letters which carry a certain meaning in themselves and put together as words they tell what they want to say. A Semitic root is always three letters unless it is a form of preposition or similar, it helps to bring consistency to it. It is very machine-like in its nature, if you coded a machine with perfect definitions for each letter and told it every word has three letters it could automatically decode the whole language in hours. Unfortunately I do not have the coding skills plus I need better definitions. On the other hand, it is relatively easy to work on once you know the words because it works like a machine code. Its disadvantage is the lack of punctuation, it means if someone did not transcribe it keeping each line where each line should be you need to figure out when and where each sentence ends and it is not easy when you do not know its grammar yet. Now I have made a lot of progress so I can more easily observe where sentences start and end, because they DO NOT correlate with the verse system the clergymen added to it, and the clergymen were not kind enough to give me a manuscript which retained each sentence on one line which the original author surely had on it. If I had the original manuscript my work would have been so much easier. I have been trying to look for a very old version of the book but had no luck finding one where sentences begin on the proper line. For me it is like someone took a computer code and then made sure I could not know where to begin reading and stop reading as a machine. In order to parse the sentences this is important. Good thing is this forces me to learn the language inside out as without thorough grammar I cannot progress.
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Post by yes on Sept 1, 2021 23:14:16 GMT
Thanks for your answers, I'll have a read through them. I do have a few more questions:
So if the aim is to be in control of the instinct, to completely abstain from competitive sport, say tennis for example can't be done? But if you're in control and just playing for exercise and can control your emotions even if you lose, this should be possible. Yes if you lose at the end sometimes you get a little annoyed but it goes an instant later, so if you are competing and can control these emotions, this isn't good enough? Because if you played tennis against a wall, you can still lose if your doing a record run or similar.
And what about music, if you can control the emotions when topics of the instinct, direct or indirect (drugs/sex/alcohol) are mentioned. Or just stop listening to that completely? Would it only be that type of music, so instrumentals or songs not to do with instinct are ok?
And next a question on Jesus, specifically about turning the other cheek (Luke 6:27:) 'To the one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other one also'. If someone started hitting you, wouldn't self defense be necessary i.e. trying to stop them. Because if you offer the other cheek if they hit you once, and they start slapping you continuously, I'm not sure that would help your situation, I would have thought what would be better is either fight back enough to stop it or run away if possible
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 2, 2021 11:44:49 GMT
So if the aim is to be in control of the instinct, to completely abstain from competitive sport, say tennis for example can't be done? But if you're in control and just playing for exercise and can control your emotions even if you lose, this should be possible. Yes if you lose at the end sometimes you get a little annoyed but it goes an instant later, so if you are competing and can control these emotions, this isn't good enough? Because if you played tennis against a wall, you can still lose if your doing a record run or similar. It is about the urge to win, think animals e.g. bulls that fight in the meadow to show who is strongest in order to appeal to the female, to strive for dominance or to conform to hierarchy if you submit to a leader. You always need to think in terms of instinct when dealing with these questions. Immediately when you lose focus on the chain of logic you might find these reasonings to be nonsensical. People usually like to do things in order to win and it is instinctive, we all want to be winners and see others lower in the hierarchy than ourselves. If you can participate in a competitive sport without striving to dominate but perfecting your movements, gaining better stamina and reflexes this is good. But not even feeling the slightest desire to win in a head-to-head game might prove quite difficult, a sport is designed that one is to aim to win. Perhaps it was wrong of me to make win equivalent to dominate as it apparently seems that it makes it harder for you to get the point while I wanted to intertwine the two in order for your to see the connection. To win as in succeed in something is not necessarily domination, it depends on the context. The word 'dominate' is good in relationship to this, it is exactly the description of behavior which should be avoided. The connection with 'winning' is that in order to win you may have to dominate the opponent and that is clearly instinctive. A problem with many or even most games is that if you do not play to win the game has no meaning and your opponent might complain that you are not even trying to play. When a person is not even trying then it might become boring for the opponent. I.e. the challenge of defeating the opponent more or less is the game. If you played tennis against the wall and aimed to perfect your swings it is obviously not domination and you are not aiming to win against an opponent. You might be upset if you miss the balls with the racket but it is hard to involve instincts into this. Technically if you played against a real human opponent but managed to control the instinct that you absolutely have no instinctive motivation then this would be fine, but if you are honest to yourself you may notice it is hard to push the urges to outplay the one on the other side of the net. Tennis is about outplaying the opponent so he fails to properly hit the ball on the other side of the net. It is a hard sport to do without instinct. Plus if the aspect of instinct was removed from you playing you might find that it is meaningless. And what about music, if you can control the emotions when topics of the instinct, direct or indirect (drugs/sex/alcohol) are mentioned. Or just stop listening to that completely? Would it only be that type of music, so instrumentals or songs not to do with instinct are ok? Music is something heavily regulated by religions, notoriously Islam, but music also requires creativity to make. A song about a man who loves a woman is not exactly any crisis. A man who drinks his sorrow away would not be the worst thing in the world either. The semi-satirical song by a man who sings about his six-shooter revolver should not be a problem. Lyrics of songs can help a person relate to possible problems other people have in their lives, it can help understand that they are not the only one with the problem. Songs can give hope no matter for what purpose they were made (this song was made for Far Cry 5 which is a very violent game but deals with brainwashing and cults etc something which can further help understand how cults work and the game's talk about the Great Collapse is a good unintended prophecy of what is coming in real life): "Help me faith, help me faith, shield me from sorrow, fear of tomorrow.." The song is good in multiple aspects, it describes that the narrator (singer) is driven by expectations, primarily those of others, in her life and follows them naively, subconsciously knowing she should not and suffers inside her soul, but wasted her life which she understood as she grew old. The song could be seen as a good (unintentional) criticism of how humans live their lives. She is afraid of having any different opinion for what others may think. While I nearly always speak about emotion related to instinct, usually negatively, there are things that only the human can which is to selectively be touched, like crying, to something emotional or be touched by something. No animal in nature can it on this level and it is related to the human spirit. I would say no animal would become euphoric from listening to music although I have heard that also animal lifeforms and even plants may respond to music therapy. But an animal will only respond instinctively in a certain manner to the played music, a human can respond with thoughts that an animal cannot. Only humans can think which means music may have an even more positive effect on them, but also negative as some music might increase their hatred for example. There are functions of the human that is distinctively different from the animals. But I would avoid listening to songs with a completely immoral context and that are not productive by any means. You listen to songs as they are meant to help you in any way to become a better person or to calm your senses. It is less about what the singer sings about but what the intent is with the lyrics. Many singers sing about nearly horrible things but in a clearly satirical sense. And next a question on Jesus, specifically about turning the other cheek (Luke 6:27:) 'To the one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other one also'. If someone started hitting you, wouldn't self defense be necessary i.e. trying to stop them. Because if you offer the other cheek if they hit you once, and they start slapping you continuously, I'm not sure that would help your situation, I would have thought what would be better is either fight back enough to stop it or run away if possible If you check back earlier in this thread I did comment on that particular passage. Humans have trouble with thinking abstractly due to their problem in isolating themselves, their spirit, from the body. Jesus' words must be taken in a logical sense as he speaks about always responding back with the same coin. For example he means, try to only make it no payback instead of full payback. You cannot take the phrase turn the other cheek without looking at what he said previously. He mentions the "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" principle. Jesus never mentions the event after a person hits you on the other cheek. Revengeful feelings is a reaction of the instinct. Jesus tells people to respond differently instead. Jesus wanted you to reflect upon what you do in life. Is the immediate response to someone slapping you in the face to simply slap back? Oftentimes, more often than not, this is the first reaction for many people. Seldom someone slaps you on the cheek without that you have done anything to provoke the reaction but in this situation you had probably said someone with the tongue possibly not warranting a slap on the cheek and the other person slaps you on the cheek, and so you escalate the situation by hitting the person back on his cheek and eventually you may end up with the fists instead of open palms or in the worst case a firearm. Do you understand his point? In the end maybe your sneering at the other side was the igniting factor but that you will not admit because the law is harsher on physical violence than verbal. When a person slaps a person it is usually after multiple insults and that the person has had enough. It is difficult to defend physical violence, but I understand a person who reaches a mental threshold and slaps another person in the face. In some cases the verbal confrontation is done for that reason too i.e. so-called taunting, that the receiver of insults triggers and starts the physical confrontation, as there is a kind of (instinctive) pride in winning the pre-fight about who strikes first. It bothers me when I think about it. In a domestic conflict there is seldom only one person with a problem, but it is hard for people to admit any error. In case you have never wondered about these lines that Jesus said he is dealing with conflict handling and philosophy in dealing with other people in life. The turn the other cheek is not dealing with a situation where you are being mugged.
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Post by yes on Sept 2, 2021 23:50:10 GMT
So if one was to go on this path, would they be able to control say getting a disease or stopping disease progression, or not getting one, or is is this not possible. Because of course the stories of the old teachers 'Jesus' 'Moses' could perform miracles per se. Of course it should not be the aim to do this to be healthier body-wise, but its more to do with stopping an issue continuing.
If someone with a good/developing soul were to win a big lottery, wouldn't they be able to make a huge impact in the area/country they are living in by say building a sanctuary. Are we as humans not able to make a difference to this system, do we not have a choice to impact what we touch thereby altering the karma system. If one was to build multiple sanctuaries for the homeless in different cities of the same country, is this not a way to develop these people as its providing security for them, such as the basic necessities like food and shelter. Isn't it the underdeveloped that hoard all the capital, the billionaires, who based on your karma system have performed well previously and now hold the fruits. The wealth that they hoard can be shared out to essentially destroy poverty if they wanted. It may not aid in total development, but with that capital in the hands of more people, and more empathetic and caring people, infrastructure can be built such as schools and hospitals etc. . This develops countries and is it not the case developed countries are at times holding back many of the developing countries. Aren't some developed countries built by slaves. And this topic is a lot to do with homo sapiens, but as the mind is attached to make it human, it is a topic of the mind as well.
And what about space, black holes, the planetary system, pulsars, quasars. They are marvels but are they also not fascinating. Are they not meant to be a sign or, similar to the micro, particle physics, quant mechanics, chaos theory or literature, history, biology. Studying surely would develop the soul, but the people who aren't able to see can't study a lot of this, nor look at this creation, so does that mean that this is futile as this is not fair to them as they can't participate. Music can not be listened to by the deaf people, but people with hearing can. Studying, maybe even listening to the right music can bring the soul closer, but is this not fair if deaf people cannot join/participate.
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Post by . on Sept 3, 2021 4:41:02 GMT
If I may put a thought to the discussion: Why it MUST be fair in the first place? Have anyone considered that souls are just distributed randomly and the question of it is is fair or not is not considered by the higher Power?
What if we are projecting our own thinning/expectations in this case to the higher power. Because if you notice, when we think about this things we already have a conviction in our minds that it has to be fair. Think about this scenario.
Which makes one even more motivated to take this spiritual side of life seriously, because you realize you could be reincarnated into ANY BODY and into ANY PLACE on earth, with no guarantees for wealth, beauty and health.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 3, 2021 6:14:51 GMT
If 'Those Who Are Being' will enable the control of that. You have the limited control over your body because that is what you have been given. A rising level of "power of being" might make it possible to alter the timeline but only to a limit set by them.
I have not been arguing about the right and wrong among humans but merely how it works. You wrote "your karma system" but it is not "my karma system", I have just explained how it works. I am not judging anyone's particular life.
Wealthiness is a burden just as poverty is. None of them are easy situations but I would prefer leaning towards poverty as wealth tends to become where your heart is, it is best to have shelter, well enough of food, and a small money cache perhaps to make sure food keeps being on the table, as that is how the humans have decided to live i.e. using a monetary system.
The wealthy people who are greedy are obviously not the most developed souls or they are developed souls placed in a situation in order to test them. Domination and greed are high up on the list of "sins". Being rich is not necessarily a good thing.
See for yourself if the rich people have any desire to share their wealth to any particular extent. Poverty could vanish completely if the wealth was distributed evenly across the Earth. But so does not happen and you have already been told why.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 3, 2021 22:20:46 GMT
Thinking requires a mind and is good, at least when the purpose is not for an instinctive reason.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 3, 2021 22:54:43 GMT
If I may put a thought to the discussion: Why it MUST be fair in the first place? Have anyone considered that souls are just distributed randomly and the question of it is is fair or not is not considered by the higher Power? What if we are projecting our own thinning/expectations in this case to the higher power. Because if you notice, when we think about this things we already have a conviction in our minds that it has to be fair. Think about this scenario. Which makes one even more motivated to take this spiritual side of life seriously, because you realize you could be reincarnated into ANY BODY and into ANY PLACE on earth, with no guarantees for wealth, beauty and health. There is a bit too much emphasis on that it should be fair, but the spawn distribution is related to performance. You are born under conditions fit for your soul condition. It might seem unbelievable but 'Those Who Are Being' are actually interested in seeing people succeed and do free some of the burden when it comes to high-performers. There has to be some kind of subtle motivation ladder and linearity. Things do not have to be fair like you said, but there is also no reason for not categorizing subjects you have a personal interest in whereas you are less interested in others. There is a reward for seeing through the charade and progressing. It would be pretty weird if a high-achiever soul was born to starve in Africa in the heat with no water and violence all around and died in young age. You see logic has trouble to indicate that. It would burn the soul, scar it and make it suffer for nothing it had really done if it performed well before. Simultaneously there are only a handful of souls that are expected to make it out and few make it out in one cycle. I would not risk being reborn even if I see that I am a high-performer. Life is painful here on Earth regardless of ascension or not. Diseases do afflict me too even though I have not even had a cold in 5 years. Life is more tedious the further you get in the awakening. I would rather not live through the upcoming chaos no matter what position I had in the societies. No one in their right mind would be relaxed about getting out because the reincarnation will make their next spawning a walk in the park if they just behave well. Obviously 'Those Who Are Being' will know about the bad efforts and the person will start off worse. You are actually measured based on the List of Ten and the first commandment is to BE DEVOTED to becoming one of 'Those Who Are Being'. You break at least one parameter being slack which will affect the respawning. Not to mention that you probably broke the third commandment too about not taking the commandment to be Being in vain. You did probably fail at contemplation (Sabbateh), rule four. That is three broken parameters which will affect you pretty much warranting a worse spawn location. Lack of devotion punishes itself, rest assured. See that half the List of Ten is about devotion. The rest is Do Not's.
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Post by yes on Sept 6, 2021 23:44:50 GMT
If only a few souls are to make it to the ascension, then what is the point of having more souls tested when the answer has already been given. There seems to be no choice based on this argument and your quote is 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible'.
Many years ago there was no cure for small pox, a lot of people got infected and died. But now there is a cure, due to the discovery. Does it not show that the people that suffered previously based on the karma system could have survived if they were born in the future. So does that mean that the discovery of the cure have no alter of karma, therefore inventions and discoveries have no actual impact, meaning that everything has already been set.
Or is it something like the film 'Final Destination' but karma instead of cheating death?
Is there no forgiveness from the karma system, because it seems very brutal. Take Yemen for example, these souls that have bad karma are being 'taught a lesson' by Allahem because they weren't a good soul previously. Surely there is a more merciful way to neutralize the bad that they may have did previously.
You've said that this world is meant to be deceitful, i.e. the system is meant to cause suffering somewhere, but your quote is 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible' contradicts I believe.
You've written about the apocalypse that will occur in our timeline, can I get some more detail on this. The cryptic messaging of the apocalypse may not convince people as many have said this before. Also in the 1940s, the Japanese who lived in Hiroshima or Nagasaki may have thought they were in an apocalypse when being bombed, or people who got hit by an earthquake somewhere the same. When you say apocalypse, do you mean all of humanity living on this planet. Will it even affect someone living in Guam? Are you talking about climate change, nuclear war? When is this going to happen in terms of years, months, days.
I've been talking about moral because its engrained in humanity when making choices. Choices in which you can base it on reason or otherwise. Morality is embedded in us and I thought it would be very closely linked to the mind. When I'm talking about charity, I'm not talking about posting a video online to show everyone to make people think I'm a hero, or telling people how much I give, I'm speaking in general terms, whether that be card payment or simply giving money to a homeless person when walking.
I was talking about space because it requires eyes to view, but my point was about seeing vs not, because if a blind person can become Who Is, then the vastness and grandness of space may be important to study, but there is a lot more because the blind can do without this. Similar comparison of music and hearing.
I can see that this world is what it is in terms of the suffering/pain, because it's there to see. And I can see that I'm always asking why and do sometimes get upset when seeing suffering. Please don't see it as me 'pulling your leg' or asking about 'your karma system', I'm just curious.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 7, 2021 23:51:34 GMT
If only a few souls are to make it to the ascension, then what is the point of having more souls tested when the answer has already been given. There seems to be no choice based on this argument and your quote is 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible'. Now you have me puzzled what you are getting at. You think I have been telling you about predetermination? 'Those That Are Being' obviously master logic and already predicted that because the test is immensely difficult only particularly excellent souls will make it. If you take a great good look on Earth cannot you see why these mindless souls will not make it? That does not equal "be no choice" and my quote 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible' refers to the mastery of "thinking outside of the box", about looking beyond what seems possible, to widen one's horizon, to not fossilize one's knowledge into not being able to be open-minded. Many years ago there was no cure for small pox, a lot of people got infected and died. But now there is a cure, due to the discovery. Does it not show that the people that suffered previously based on the karma system could have survived if they were born in the future. So does that mean that the discovery of the cure have no alter of karma, therefore inventions and discoveries have no actual impact, meaning that everything has already been set. The discovery does absolutely not affect Karma no, as this is dependent upon personal performance. Humans enter predicaments in many forms; wars, diseases, and the human population is kept balanced, so no need to worry that the system is not working. Humanity can research on remedies all they like, they will suffer and die one way or another anyways. But how this means "everything has already been set" I cannot understand, what is your logic? We all perform goodly or badly, we can affect this and it determines our outcome, the ultimate outcome is obviously a permanent release from the corporeal. Or is it something like the film 'Final Destination' but karma instead of cheating death? I unfortunately never watched Final Destination. Is there no forgiveness from the karma system, because it seems very brutal. Take Yemen for example, these souls that have bad karma are being 'taught a lesson' by Allahem because they weren't a good soul previously. Surely there is a more merciful way to neutralize the bad that they may have did previously. Apparently there is not. You are still the same soul no matter when it is. At least you can always become a better person even if you are born in a predicament. You've said that this world is meant to be deceitful, i.e. the system is meant to cause suffering somewhere, but your quote is 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible' contradicts I believe. Not if you look at what I meant with the saying 'everything is possible, nothing is impossible' which apparently is different from what you are thinking. My saying is meant to tell one to be open-minded and expect more things to be possible than what seems possible. That saying is at least 20 years old, I did not even know what I do today back then, but the quote is that old. However the motto served me well. That the world is a horrible place is meant to also be a thought-provoker, that you are not meant to like it and begin to reflect. Then there are also people who accept it as "natural" but it helps to "wide one's horizon". You've written about the apocalypse that will occur in our timeline, can I get some more detail on this. The cryptic messaging of the apocalypse may not convince people as many have said this before. Also in the 1940s, the Japanese who lived in Hiroshima or Nagasaki may have thought they were in an apocalypse when being bombed, or people who got hit by an earthquake somewhere the same. When you say apocalypse, do you mean all of humanity living on this planet. Will it even affect someone living in Guam? Are you talking about climate change, nuclear war? When is this going to happen in terms of years, months, days. I have not said that it will happen soon, my prediction is that after this milestone I have told about there will probably be another 2000 years, so rest assured you have your time to straighten up your life. It means the Apocalypse will likely take place after the year 4000 AD. If there is not a sufficient amount of time after the milestone it would have been meaningless to reveal it as it has to take effect on receptive people and receptive people do not grow on trees. The work I am committed to will according to the prophecies have a lasting effect and I am not too worried as no one's guidance is my responsibility, but I will help if someone asks. The Apocalypse coincides with a rapid contraction of the universe when it will collapse and it will disappear just as it first emerged, but its disintegration will of course be felt on Earth with crumbling and cracking mountains and restless oceans, amongst other things, just as prophecies have already foretold in the past. Because all the matter will begin to disintegrate I suppose the bodies will also not feel well. I've been talking about moral because its engrained in humanity when making choices. Choices in which you can base it on reason or otherwise. Morality is embedded in us and I thought it would be very closely linked to the mind. When I'm talking about charity, I'm not talking about posting a video online to show everyone to make people think I'm a hero, or telling people how much I give, I'm speaking in general terms, whether that be card payment or simply giving money to a homeless person when walking. Morality also has to do with logic, there is a difference between destruction and chaos and peace and order. Tear everything down or build things up. We would definitely be less moral if it was not for our minds. I was talking about space because it requires eyes to view, but my point was about seeing vs not, because if a blind person can become Who Is, then the vastness and grandness of space may be important to study, but there is a lot more because the blind can do without this. Similar comparison of music and hearing. Not sure I understand your point. Music and hearing is far from essential in order to ascend. Nor is eyesight. I can see that this world is what it is in terms of the suffering/pain, because it's there to see. And I can see that I'm always asking why and do sometimes get upset when seeing suffering. Please don't see it as me 'pulling your leg' or asking about 'your karma system', I'm just curious. Hope I did not upset you too much with what I wrote. Reality is not a beauty sight.
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Post by yes on Sept 9, 2021 23:17:07 GMT
You've said in this thread that there is going to be some significant negative occurrence that's going to happen in our lifetime, can you elaborate on this i.e. what is going to happen and when is it going to happen. If you have information on this it would be nice to know, and the less cryptic the better.
So in terms of the origin of everything, what's your view. Was there only one 'who is' or more, or is that not the way to look at it i.e. time is relative, and does not affect Who Are because they/it projected the concept known as time in this universe.
Do all humans have a seed/soul in them, or just a numbered amount.
I think some of what you have wrote may have implied some form of predetermination, due to the fact that you said only a few souls will make it. Obviously this is probably a wording issue but for it to not be predetermined wouldn't it be better to say likelihood. Because if there is no predetermination, there is always a chance of more souls making it, maybe all, even if that is a very small percentage.
My point of music/hearing and space/eyesight was the idea that based on what you have said, you do not need to hear, nor see to ascend, so are these things we have (eyes/ears) ultimately meaningless.
How sure are you of this karma system, it seems very cruel/unnecessary. If you really ascend, why on earth would you want to subject souls/humans to something like small pox or torture? I can see this has happened/happening on Earth, so there is no getting away from it. But to say there is Allahem projecting this on people for Karma, and there is no other way. Well, can't I say forgiveness, can't I say educate as that reduces crime, can't I say law. Obviously this is on Earth, but can you really say 'I'm going to ascend, and part of this is to subject souls to this harsh karma system'. Where is the empathy, care, there are lots of reasons and studies as to why people do bad things i.e. poverty, brought up in a wrong way, Allahem can therefore intervene if they were able to, because I think if I were to ascend I would. Is not the world meant to look cruel, but also look beautiful as well, is it not a spectrum. Which means, my current view (it can change) is that they can't intervene, they aren't able to.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 10, 2021 23:26:14 GMT
You've said in this thread that there is going to be some significant negative occurrence that's going to happen in our lifetime, can you elaborate on this i.e. what is going to happen and when is it going to happen. If you have information on this it would be nice to know, and the less cryptic the better. Unfortunately I have not been able to pinpoint any specifics about when what I have written about will occur. What I know is that it is something which is happening as we speak (write), the situation in the world grows worse for every month that goes by, and I suspect it is not far left until we will see some serious events taking place. I am living through a prophetic foretelling which I am experiencing myself. When I began to be able to decipher the Isaiah texts I saw how it fits in very well. I am not meant to be cryptic about things, the bringer of information in this milestone is to be crystal clear, it is in the revelation name even. What is about to happen is not "the Apocalypse" but just humanity causing major unrest on Earth. Whether it will continue to the Apocalypse I am not informed about. It would not surprise me if the civilization as we know it will fall apart and we go back in time in many ways, especially for the "Western world" and the Earth will look like in post-apocalyptic movies and games. I have not excluded that the prophecy speaks about a nuclear war, but it is nothing I am certain about although one particular passage makes me think about it which seems to speak metaphorically about a nuclear blast and shockwave yet the translators seem to portray it as a flooding. I make it easy for myself, I expect anything to happen and will not be surprised when the day comes. I hope I have misunderstood the passage and it does not speak about a major wipeout, because a wipeout it speaks about for sure no matter if it is a nuclear shockwave or flood of water. A tsunami is theoretically not impossible, all it takes is a meteor crashing right into the Atlantic Ocean for example and that will cause major chaos. Life is pretty fragile that way, the planet could be wiped out quite easily. If you look at a map showing depths and contours in the major oceans you can clearly see the planet was hit in the past and left huge craters down there. But the crisis does primarily have to do with what the human being does on Earth, you can already today see how "people are charging up" and there is less tolerance between people. And it is only about to get worse which you can if you do not believe me go wait and see and then come back and say "you were right", the sooner the better and if you wake up to a nuclear blast it might be too late (worst case scenario). I am not worried about being wrong, there is really nothing to prove and there is no "auto-salvation" for anyone who does believe but it helps to prepare. When the "Great Collapse" happens I have another prophecy come true from Isaiah. Unfortunately people cannot read it as intended but there are multiple lines in there that I have fulfilled already, such as the almost satirical: "Not only do you tire my body but also my Being" which is a direct parody on how my feelings towards humanity is i.e. it is not only my body (including brain) which is tired but my very soul is heavily burdened and weary which shows itself that I extremely much want to disappear from here and people bother me in general. From what I have understood there is supposed to be paranormal phenomena surrounding a prophet although the source of paranormality can come in any way. What is important is its validation. I consider a beyond normal grasp for things to be paranormal myself. I am confident that if only I get further on working on the true Arabic language exposure then my "special (paranormal) talent" will shine through as the full grasp will appear natural as I can explain the language like a fluent speaker/writer and it makes sense, as things are obviously about 'making sense'. I can understand I have problems making myself believed as it stands today, I focus on strong points such as the ILM and mysterious letters as initials to some chapters etc plus simply making the translations fluent and making sense in comparison to linguistics and grammar. Sorry if I (as usual) delved into something else other than your question. The simple answer is that I have no precise time for the total breakdown of the society, it occurs gradually and it is already occurring right now. By my estimation you can probably expect very dire circumstances on Earth within the next 10 years. The pace at which things turn worse seems to increase incrementally too, so expect the collapse to occur sooner than later. I study world news very carefully and I can see the world is very fragile at the moment with tension increasing, it is like a ticking bomb. Not surprisingly 'Those Who Are Being' sent in Covid-19 to further stir things up. It only adds to the already existing tension. It is exactly what the world needed to collapse quicker. Social media, world news, and the Internet might seem like a blessing by some but it also has its backsides. The IT age comes with a variety of problems, especially when unintelligent (mentally inadept) people get access to more knowledge while lacking the wisdom to use it right. Humans can store a lot of information via the brain but a dim-wit mind lacks the power of Being to have practical use for it. Often it means they simply parrot something they actually do not understand its context about. It could be seen as all positive that uneducated people get their hands on knowledge but it is not always so, we forget the mental condition factor. Humans in their ignorance go the wrong way about things, mental mastery comes first, then one can learn all the things they want, but an empty shell should not learn anything (else). It is getting too late for me so I will reply to the rest of your paragraphs another day, probably tomorrow if I get the time.
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Post by yes on Sept 11, 2021 0:50:59 GMT
You can do many things; get used to simpler living conditions, buy a house out in the nowhere, get independent electricity production by solar panels and complement it with diesel generators, learn about farming, learn about herbalism and what is edible in nature and general survival skills. Many of these things already come with the practice of detachment from the worldly but it becomes more important than ever. For me who is to decipher the Manifestation electricity is important to run an energy-efficient laptop computer even when the society falls, I have taken time to make sure I have a computer which would work well when there is no more 230V public system as it can be charged and run via 12-24V DC for example by running a diesel engine or mount solar panels. Internet may go down in the wake of the conflict escalation so I am also preparing for the situation when there is no more Internet and it may be that my work must be saved on flash drives to be spread. I have seen indications that nuclear warheads may play a part in the chaos so not living in cities may be a good idea as the bombs will fall there first of all. Also been thinking about buying an anti-radiation suit and equipment to purge radiation. There will be a long nuclear winter. Think about games like Fallout how the Earth will be like. This may seem like pure foil hat thoughts but I assure you it will come soon. Whatever you do, do not take sides in the arising conflict because that is exactly what the prophecy speaks about. Isaiah spoke about it but also Jesus. Jesus said something like son against father and so the conflict will look like, no cohesion between people at all, it already runs towards it and the Covid-19 also is a test and unleashed to cause discord. An easy example is to not take either anti-vaccination or pro-vaccination side in the conflict about vaccination. Here is where I think you are speaking/writing about the conflict will occur in our lifetime, not the apocalypse you've mentioned 2000/4000 years in the future. And thanks, I'll have a look at your answers once replied. The change brought to the world through the computer age (IT/Social Media etc) yes, brings issues. However, for you, and whoever may be helping you decipher the Manifestation, the computer may be the tool to decipher this. I say this because programming/coding is moving and improving at a very fast pace. And the way the words are structured in the Manifestation (three letter ILM, prefix, suffix, attachment etc) it seems very possible that something such as machine learning (ML), even if it is a current buzzword, may be very helpful. The ILM's of the words can be placed and the programming language may be able to find the best word for it, after many iterations. Using a textual ML model may be a way to aid in the discovery. There is a lot of open source programming languages available, so I suppose a way to start off would may be to build a database that has the words in the manifestation and have it ILM components. This of course will take time and a team but I think it's one way to continue forth.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 11, 2021 17:13:13 GMT
The change brought to the world through the computer age (IT/Social Media etc) yes, brings issues. However, for you, and whoever may be helping you decipher the Manifestation, the computer may be the tool to decipher this. I say this because programming/coding is moving and improving at a very fast pace. And the way the words are structured in the Manifestation (three letter ILM, prefix, suffix, attachment etc) it seems very possible that something such as machine learning (ML), even if it is a current buzzword, may be very helpful. The ILM's of the words can be placed and the programming language may be able to find the best word for it, after many iterations. Using a textual ML model may be a way to aid in the discovery. There is a lot of open source programming languages available, so I suppose a way to start off would may be to build a database that has the words in the manifestation and have it ILM components. This of course will take time and a team but I think it's one way to continue forth. Yes. I am fully aware of it. For the right people the IT age is a great benefit. It is just the team missing. Here is where I think you are speaking/writing about the conflict will occur in our lifetime, not the apocalypse you've mentioned 2000/4000 years in the future. "The Apocalypse" is just another word for the end of the universe with chaotic scenes involved. The Isaiah prophecy is something else but might be what marks the time from now until the Apocalypse, perhaps humanity will never recover until the end of days, perhaps the Earth will be permanently crippled by something like a nuclear winter. So in terms of the origin of everything, what's your view. Was there only one 'who is' or more, or is that not the way to look at it i.e. time is relative, and does not affect Who Are because they/it projected the concept known as time in this universe. This is impossible for us to know without direct information from them and I have no such information. It is not unlikely by logic that there are multiple 'Those Who Are Being' (codename 'Elahem' in the language they have used to communicate with us), because there is really no prevention that there could not have emerged multiple such unconditionally existing "platforms", it is as probable as that there is one of them. You can see how much logic can help with thinking, and we can see that because 'Those Who Are Being' exists as a platform, there is nothing logically preventing a second one to exist and so on, as logic has the ability to force some things to be plausible (theoretically possible). But like I wrote, it is impossible without inside information to know anything about it because it is beyond our perceptive abilities. However, if you ask me what I think i.e. believe, well I take it as possible but what I think is that each 'Those Who Are Being'-mind runs a universe each in something like parallel universes meaning our universe could be just one among many in a wildly vast system of universes. Logic has nothing to prevent this from being true, it is plausible. Do all humans have a seed/soul in them, or just a numbered amount. I have personally reflected upon this before. I have tried to reason that people are born with such as Down's Syndrome and other mental defects making them more or less empty shells since being so handicapped renders it virtually impossible for them to progress in this world if they theoretically had a soul. But the body Homo sapiens was engineered for the purpose of hosting human souls, which is worth keeping in mind. Humans have been around for a very long time, many thousands of years even in the Stone Age and souls were originally blank and as we know they require stimuli in order to grow. My point is there may be valid reasons for broken souls being inside very broken bodies such as those with Down's Syndrome.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 13, 2021 22:06:22 GMT
I think some of what you have wrote may have implied some form of predetermination, due to the fact that you said only a few souls will make it. Obviously this is probably a wording issue but for it to not be predetermined wouldn't it be better to say likelihood. Because if there is no predetermination, there is always a chance of more souls making it, maybe all, even if that is a very small percentage. If you think I have said there is predetermination this is a misunderstanding. The prophecies cause "story elements" but it is far from predetermination for the souls. I wrote "a few" and mostly referring to each milestone period. I cannot tell totally exactly how many people will successfully ascend but I can estimate based on the "overall response" from humanity for each milestone teaching and the intensive power the body appears to exercise over the minds, and my estimation does not look in favor for masses of people managing to ascend, it does not take inside knowledge to see this. I tend to work with probability a lot, which is highly connected to logic, and we can say the probability people will ascend is low based on the beforementioned factors. My point of music/hearing and space/eyesight was the idea that based on what you have said, you do not need to hear, nor see to ascend, so are these things we have (eyes/ears) ultimately meaningless. They are not necessary in order to grow but obviously without hearing and eyesight one has impaired functionality. Those senses are like tools in this world. In order to see the creation 'Those Who Are Being' made for this universe one has to have eyesight and in order to hear what they created one needs hearing, you miss out on the creativity because you cannot behold it, although it will not matter for the ascension. How sure are you of this karma system, it seems very cruel/unnecessary. If you really ascend, why on earth would you want to subject souls/humans to something like small pox or torture? I can see this has happened/happening on Earth, so there is no getting away from it. But to say there is Allahem projecting this on people for Karma, and there is no other way. Well, can't I say forgiveness, can't I say educate as that reduces crime, can't I say law. Obviously this is on Earth, but can you really say 'I'm going to ascend, and part of this is to subject souls to this harsh karma system'. Where is the empathy, care, there are lots of reasons and studies as to why people do bad things i.e. poverty, brought up in a wrong way, Allahem can therefore intervene if they were able to, because I think if I were to ascend I would. Is not the world meant to look cruel, but also look beautiful as well, is it not a spectrum. I am 100% certain. The Manifestation revelation milestone does warrant its existence and hence I need to inform about it. Without the so-called "Karma system" (I am using the word "karma" because it is already in existence and used for exactly this thing but it is not directly related to the religion(s) using the term) there is no explanation why people are born in such predicaments, it would be even more cruel than what there is that you seem to be so against. It is not about punishment but more like cause and effect, like that you have to reap what you have sown. It is YOU who "punish" yourself and no one else is responsible. If you are affected by what you yourself did I would not call that unfair. Everything I have worked out in my mind anyone could do, the answer to existence is right there before people. Abrahamic religions exclusively do not believe in reincarnation but theirs is also Karma-based in a way because they believe that you are here because of a previous sin of disobedience in Heaven although they seldom explain why people are born in such a varying condition on Earth. In their belief you are here on Earth because of disobeying "God" in the Eden garden. Ironically we can loosely say that they and I stand by the same thing "along the lines" except there is a wild difference nevertheless. However, from an instruction point of view it is irrelevant for me to argue about what they believe about what they did and what they were previously, as an instructor my job is to help people improve themselves and understand it does have to do with them standing above their flesh, and few religious people would deny that they should not be worldly. We can argue about it endlessly about how there is a lacking empathy, care; these are lacking in the fact that we are even here on Earth having to undergo the test to begin with. I doubt no one mentally conscious is glad about having to undergo this testing nor does it appear empathic to place every specimen here on Earth, which is like "Hell on Earth". No matter if you agree with the Karma system it is right there in front of you and it works like it does. Due to logical issues to overcome in reasoning you cannot do away with it, because people are born in wildly different situations even within the community you reside. They do not intervene because THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO, it would spoil the test, people are deprived of mental stimuli. You speak about crime and doing bad things as if people are always just animals and do not have own minds to control themselves. Part of the problem here is your indoctrination by things you have learned to take for a fact e.g. people are criminal because of their social situation and upbringing, but it does have to do very much with mental condition. Everything of that goes hand in hand you know. They were born in the bad situation because of bad karma and bad karma tends to come from poor mental development, so you can expect a mentally deficit person to be among the criminal people and why they did start with it, it is naturally not hard for an instinctive person to begin with criminality as morality is connected to what is on soul/mind level. It is extremely hard for a person of high mental development to begin with criminal acts that harm other beings, hardest of all probably being homicide. Therefore you will find mentally weak people around the criminal people, and it is absolutely not easy to change them, and if they change it is because they socially joined another flock i.e. joining the good guys instinctively instead of the bad guys while it anyways might probably not have made them any more mentally stronger in itself. You need to be able to distinguish things from the perspective of the mind versus the body in order to comprehend what I am trying to tell you. Persons with virtually no soul progress will act in more or less a predetermined way like an animal being herded, it is possible to control them and they will not really make any independent choice. People can improve and so you can help people evolve, that I have not said anything about. Merely making them not poor will not help them very much however. It takes so much more. One problem is people compare themselves to others and that is often how criminality emerges by people resorting to crime to take what they could not have, even if they could get by sufficiently fine as merely poor people. The whole issues revolves around how people think. It is a deep societal problem and connected to instinctivity.
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Post by yes on Sept 14, 2021 0:27:40 GMT
The only way for this karma system to work would be like you said a soul cycle. But next to no one on this planet recalls anything of their past life, if there was one. I've seen your argument about the drunk person if I recall and how even if they don't remember, they face the consequences. However, what I have an issue with is maybe how say someone does something negative, and their karma is worse than what they did. The only way for this to balance is if they did something negative previously.
But then this karma system must balance. But then then what on earth could be so bad that Allahem decides to place a soul as a child and be abused. Are you saying for example take Himmler, a supposedly evil person in nazi germany based on history. The awful things he supposedly did, karma will get him back. And this karma is subjecting this soul to maybe torture in the new life, maybe abuse in the new life, maybe disease in the new life, maybe a combination of all three and more, and at any age? And the soul will have no recollection of why. It's ludacris (for me right now, my mind can change) that this is the system Elohim decided.
Does it matter that they subjected us to these harsh conditions if they aren't even going to tell us why in the first place. And when I say 'why' I mean why choose this karma system, I can see that they are saying for mental development, separate the mind from the flesh, look beyond what is jahannam i.e. where we are. I (think I) can see that. The question is why do it in the first place. Maybe I need to stop asking why because its doing my head in, but I won't.
And did not some or one of Allahem show themselves to previous prophets, so they clearly can if they want to. Do we not already know the test or at least what is required, why don't they show up.
I don't think its indoctrination of things I have learnt, i'm very willing to say poverty brings poverty based on this tiring (and getting worse by the year) capitalist system we are in, the data I have seen and based on this current life. The majority of people who are brought up in crime/poverty i.e. their parents and close friends are criminals/poor, and it's very hard to get out. Education is hard in deprived areas, bad food is cheap and quick to get, mental condition is based on a range of factors, and not solely on the one soul in the initial periods, there are many factors. If they have no money, if their resources are being constricted and taken from government, while the big industries get tax loops etc. If people are getting bullied in a min wage job if they even get one, care is needed for these people, a better system.
How can one blame the soul for the situation they are in. We simply don't have the evidence that shows it is because of them that they are in that situation. But then again you may say that in their previous life they weren't good and that is why they are like that. If that is the answer then I don't have a comeback, and how can I, we only have the data for this life, and its getting richer and more analytical showing how and why these people are in the situation they are in. The wealth gap is quite something (the distribution of wealth amongst humans is horrific). And if previous life karma is the actual answer for all of this, I don't know what to say. Only thing I can think of is a trial of a new economy that's doesn't exploit the poor and needy. That would require domination and other instincts to be removed.
So what, do we just say karma is the reason. Studying and proposition of new systems, increase in quality of life through protests have brought changes such as women being able to work and working hours cut, minimum wage increase, health and safety standards. But this is for humans on earth and probably different to your subject of how to become of Allahem, but I feel they are connected. But then if it is karma for all these issues, how to fix collectively, or is this futile. Be an individual and try to avoid the instinct, teach about the 'instinct is of the bodily' and we are in jahannom right now. What if bad karma keeps coming, what if one tries to but karma keeps hitting.
So studying/learning may be helpful, but ultimately the only way to help is to learn the way of removing the instinct, its quite a challenge. I've been thinking about how it always is there every day.
I can walk in a park, slip and fall in a thorn bush with nettles. Is this karma or just bad probability. Can probability exist with karma? Can you give an example where both coexist. And I'm talking about the soul activity linked to karma. Karma is a fixed equation. Do good you get 1 point, do bad you get -1 point I think. Probability is a distribution with a weight of chance for each band and no predetermination (unless one believes in predetermination of flipping a coin i.e. flip a coin, is the outcome already known to Allahem?). So then are we not talking about probability of objects like coins or dice, but of the human decision/choice and outcome, the probability of how intense the outcome will be. Someone hits someone else. There is a probability the other person will be ok, hurt, become disabled or die. Or is this determined by Karma.
Speaking to people individually you can sometimes see the soul in them, the rational and logical minds. In groups, sometimes a different story. But on an individual basis, a number are/can be good.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 14, 2021 15:02:12 GMT
The only way for this karma system to work would be like you said a soul cycle. But next to no one on this planet recalls anything of their past life, if there was one. I've seen your argument about the drunk person if I recall and how even if they don't remember, they face the consequences. However, what I have an issue with is maybe how say someone does something negative, and their karma is worse than what they did. The only way for this to balance is if they did something negative previously. The drunk person example was a "hit-or-miss" attempt, I already thought whether to use the analogy when I wrote it. It was quite ambiguous as it was, but it was my own. Not sure I follow you in the last couple of sentences. Compared to a traditional belief about a "karma system" it is determined based on soul status which is poor in people who do bad things, so compared to that it is less about good versus bad and more about overall performance. So for prospective apprentices for my teachings I should have better success with people not in the lower classes so to say because those in the higher ones have more adept souls, however it could be ironic compared to Jesus who picked up fishermen (presumably uneducated of lower classes), but it also takes looking into the community which one is active. I will also have limited success with people in higher classes because they are so absorbed into this world, however Jesus had success with a tax collector, so it could be fairly random. What Jesus example says is that it is not given that those with the most soul progress are found in the top hierarchy of human society. On the contrary it might be an advantage for a person to be born in the middle, neither poor nor rich in order to pick up the trail. I am not sure exactly what your problem with the system is compared to any other theoretical system. I would call it a reward to be born in a situation where your fate does not promote blinding you from the ordinary things of life, but I would call a lesser fortunate person who is either poor or rich to be less advantageous, unrewarded as to the starting conditions in life. Wealth and being born into high expectations from the social class around you is devastating for a person, Jesus did clearly warn about the lures of richness. Being in clearly dramatic scenes in ones life, which can virtually tantamount to torture, can be a good thing even if it is painful, but rather be through pain for a short while rather than have to endure it endlessly, I am sure you have heard of that before from "someone". Being comfortable in life is a trap, it is in that regard better to be uncomfortable, but one's thinking, logic and knowledge is important. Why I rebuked you for indoctrination was because you seem to forget the mental aspect of the whole discussion but rather "see it through human eyes". There is so much in this formula and one cannot stare themselves blind at one aspect, it will never make one wiser. But then this karma system must balance. But then then what on earth could be so bad that Allahem decides to place a soul as a child and be abused. Are you saying for example take Himmler, a supposedly evil person in nazi germany based on history. The awful things he supposedly did, karma will get him back. And this karma is subjecting this soul to maybe torture in the new life, maybe abuse in the new life, maybe disease in the new life, maybe a combination of all three and more, and at any age? And the soul will have no recollection of why. It's ludacris (for me right now, my mind can change) that this is the system Elohim decided. If people knew about the system on Earth, which they have retained in some faith systems but rejected in others, they would know that if they are born incredibly miserable then they have done bad things and it does not matter what exactly but the system balances the proportion based on the severity, just as long as they know that now they do "reap what they have sown", it would act as a reminder for everyone on Earth. Abrahamic religionists believe in 'Hell', it is in comparison not any better but on the contrary it is worse as they believe one is beyond salvation if they fail to end up in 'Hell', there is never ever any more forgiveness. These religious people are eager to warn people around them about the fires of 'Hell' so the knowledge about it exists even in Abrahamic sectarian parts of the Earth and their belief is a distorted modification of the truth, the principle remains the same that one is exposed to immense pain if they do bad during their lifetime and that I do not argue against even if I have to object against many ideas that they have. They believe Jesus to have warned about "the fires of Hell" but this is because of misinterpretation and something lost in translation. What he speaks about is "the grip/empowerment of the embodiment" since the word translated as fire is actually a word which means force/grip/power/energy and 'Jehennom' is a word for embodiment actually based on the word "jinn", it is a compound word which makes it a noun (if you seek more explanation about it you can ask). No matter what, people who acknowledge this from multiple religious faiths know that if they act like bad people they will experience very bad things later also. The true difference is that their "Hell" is here on Earth and is something much better than the religious portrayal of it. You are always you even if you lived a bad person's life and it was you who did the things back then. But the benefit from being reborn is that you can fix the things you failed at in your previous lifetime as a new person (new body), this is something you cannot prove in the traditional depiction of 'Hell'. One problem is that you see things as a punishment but it is not about punishment. Let us turn this around instead. What other system would you propose and why would your system work better? How can one blame the soul for the situation they are in. We simply don't have the evidence that shows it is because of them that they are in that situation. But then again you may say that in their previous life they weren't good and that is why they are like that. If that is the answer then I don't have a comeback, and how can I, we only have the data for this life, and its getting richer and more analytical showing how and why these people are in the situation they are in. The wealth gap is quite something (the distribution of wealth amongst humans is horrific). And if previous life karma is the actual answer for all of this, I don't know what to say. Only thing I can think of is a trial of a new economy that's doesn't exploit the poor and needy. That would require domination and other instincts to be removed. And that is not going to happen unless people themselves want to change among the masses. You need to enter into the formula that there are constantly scarred souls being reborn every second ruining the life for others. Even Jesus said "the poor you will always have with you" and why even bother about it for a system that was designed to be like it? You waste your energy if you think you can abolish it. Let lost so-called humanists deal with it in vain instead. What I do think is that you let your emotions affect you and this is a great trap for you and everyone else. The Earth and its conditions are meant to break down the subjects and it is exactly what you let it do. I have warned about having uncontrolled emotions and there is something to it. Be strong instead and accept things for what they are, because you can do nothing about it. In order to change things you would get changed yourself in the wrong direction, because changing the world would require dominance as people would not want to give up their power that easily and in the end it would accomplish nothing and return to what it was even if you managed to actually get a change through for a while. You do know you have prophecies against you as well, the bodies are automatically driven towards an agenda and the weak-minded are rallied towards that cause? Give that up and focus on what is important in life. Focus on yourself turning into a light before others and that is something else than charity and making the world a better place, make people a better place inside their souls instead. Does it matter that they subjected us to these harsh conditions if they aren't even going to tell us why in the first place. And when I say 'why' I mean why choose this karma system, I can see that they are saying for mental development, separate the mind from the flesh, look beyond what is jahannam i.e. where we are. I (think I) can see that. The question is why do it in the first place. Maybe I need to stop asking why because its doing my head in, but I won't. It helps distribute carrots, so to say, and thought-provokers to why some people are born well off and others are in misery. Would you rather not have the Karma system nor any prophecy control, people to their own doom, in place and people who are promising and progress are born into horrible situations, like ridicule them for their progress? Your doubts cause much wider concerns than the concerns you have about it. Or is your issue starting already with the fact that we are on Earth, as it would appear in the above paragraph. You are emotional and 'Those Who Are Being' are not, they look at Homo sapiens like any other animal, especially those with just an undeveloped soul seed, this is part of the issue. Am I a horrible person if I tell you that your concerns do not at all bother me the way they do to you because I can see the whole picture? If Heinrich Himmler is reborn on Earth and suffers now this does not bother me much at all. I can see the world and its chaos and the agenda behind it. I cannot waste energy on feeling sad that children in Africa starve to death, I would have to be sad all day long in that case and I will have those people around Earth my whole life. Even animals starve to death, naturally even without human interference, and animals are killed by predators or even prey animals that defend themselves against the predator. Homo sapiens is essentially an animal and will have dealings similar to that of an animal, particularly when the minds are weak. If I was to be emotional I am just playing myself into their hands, if you understand what I mean. It is exactly what the grim outlook of the Earth is intended for, to enrage people and make them fight for various causes. It is better to control yourself and "remain an outside viewer" but most importantly show yourself as a better person. Basically you are not meant to intervene on the behalf of the Earth's population, the "prophetic programming" would do that just fine. Yes, it would appear that they do not even want anyone to succeed, actively and harshly working against people doing so. Subtly they do however show up in people's lives among those who progress and passively help them in the right direction, when the people themselves accomplish it there is a leverage effect, this intervention is difficult to comprehend and explain but they do act responsively in one's life according to the progress, something like that "you will have God with you" if you do well. Remember that the 'Those Who Are Being' community is based on a kind of remarkable symbiosis and you are "joining in" as you are passing by in a progressing way, the thinking becomes a 'joint operation', if to use a good military term for the purpose. This means that when I am writing this to you I have "God in me" on a conscious level. One's mission is to grow independent from the dependency, which an ascending personal consciousness turns into, but of course remain part of the 'Those Who Are Being' joint. To listen to the body is dependence and every time you "follow the flow" you let yourself be controlled by someone else. This is the reason why I have told you that they are looking for quality over quantity and it would not bother them if they just get one qualifying person in 1000 years as long as this person is really good. Intelligence is what is being tested and the intensive delusion people live within is part of this intelligence check. If a person figures out the truth about existence and makes sure they improve according to how a mind grows this is a remarkably strong accomplishment because there is so much making it hard to see the logic, as you yourself experience through your emotions. You just look at the immediate world and try to make sense based on that and what did you say... empathy, emotions, well you need to let go of your ideas about that because it is just an illusion. You can clearly see that the creator of this world did not think empathically but purposefully and let that rule of the other. It is a brute system but which is bluntly fair and it is apparently the subject's fault for not knowing but the "cause and effect" is self-inflicted and a person always has full responsibility for it. Just the same if one does not make it out before the 'Apocalypse' they obviously have "to suit themselves". You need to see mankind acting like animals and distinguish yourself from them. You cannot make an animal not behave like an animal, can you? You can attempt to bring life to another soul but this is clearly a huge "hit-or-miss" as I have already told, it is sometimes possible but you will simply not succeed with the greater masses. It is honorable to try, but one cannot let it affect themselves if it does not work. The majority of humans are DEAD, do you read me? Dead, mindless, lifeless, you name it... without attribute the Semitic word used literally means. It is pointless to interact with the grand majority of humans for any particular motives if they have not evolved over thousands of years. This is the last era of evolution and I would focus on those that are promising prospects right now and ignore the rest.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 14, 2021 15:42:46 GMT
And did not some or one of Allahem show themselves to previous prophets, so they clearly can if they want to. Do we not already know the test or at least what is required, why don't they show up. They have shown themselves to me. They do show themselves to a person if they are worthy and it is relevant. Before they did show themselves to me I knew they existed wholeheartedly, I had already begun to search for background information and researched a lot when they did. But one can clearly see that you have doubts, not wholeheartedly certain, and therefore they do not show themselves. Why should they? It is your intelligence being tested and they are not supposed to be your intelligence. Work harder with your mind in finding faith enough to acknowledge that 'Those Who Are Being' exist, the background and try from there. If you are looking to wait for them to show up before you understand they exist you will not succeed, you can wait until the end of days. They did show themselves to the prophets after these individuals were worthy too, it is not like they were selected and trained in everything they needed to know, no they had to figure it out for themselves. This was extra meritorious for Abraham who had no previous legacy to go on but also to a large extent for later prophets due to the original message becoming clearly distorted, just look at the legacy today 2021. Do you think Jesus had everything put in front of him in black and white? No, not at all. These men, and women such as Miryem (Mary), spent their lives thinking and reflecting and came to their own conclusions and then 'Those Who Are Being' showed up in their lives. No one is spoon-fed things if this is what you have believed. I have never been spoon-fed any information even if they have subtly steered my life in a particular direction on purpose because apparently I am part of their bizarre prophecies. You see, a normal religious person would think I am disrespectful towards 'Those Who Are Being' but I can call their little ventures bizarre. Do you think they will be upset? No, they have no instinctive emotions and I must insist that they know it is bizarre. I could be angry, they have made me go through a prophetic foretelling that I am to have issues choosing between good and bad meaning I have to follow that on a corporeal level, while my mind is simply ascended enough to see through the charade I must comply over a period of time. By the way, I have sometimes been upset about it but how does it help me? The issue is in ways similar to yours except that I know about it all but frustratingly I cannot do anything about it and it is painful and most of all... tiring. The initial passage of the prophecy is feeling like mockery when it says "not only do you tire my body but you tire my Being" which exactly describes how I feel. Now it comes to what we discussed before about movie-like scripts with loopholes in them with special solutions which take extra much focus. I have to outwit the prophecy with a focused mind and the solution is to put pressure on what the prophecy puts as choose the good, yet how it plays out I cannot do much about. That thing is pretty lame to be honest. I cannot affect the script at all but yet my mental power is required in order to move the story forward, it simply acts as a trigger. Regardless of what I do the Earth will turn into chaos and the script tells me not do do anything about it.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 14, 2021 18:24:40 GMT
I don't think its indoctrination of things I have learnt, i'm very willing to say poverty brings poverty based on this tiring (and getting worse by the year) capitalist system we are in, the data I have seen and based on this current life. The majority of people who are brought up in crime/poverty i.e. their parents and close friends are criminals/poor, and it's very hard to get out. Education is hard in deprived areas, bad food is cheap and quick to get, mental condition is based on a range of factors, and not solely on the one soul in the initial periods, there are many factors. If they have no money, if their resources are being constricted and taken from government, while the big industries get tax loops etc. If people are getting bullied in a min wage job if they even get one, care is needed for these people, a better system. But it does not matter, if you try to change the capitalist system there will be one based on another oppressing principle. Right now is a worse time than ever to even try to accomplish anything because it has been prophesied that the world will turn into utter chaos, more than ever before. If you join in there like a voice you risk getting stuck in a loop for no gain. How can one blame the soul for the situation they are in. We simply don't have the evidence that shows it is because of them that they are in that situation. But then again you may say that in their previous life they weren't good and that is why they are like that. If that is the answer then I don't have a comeback, and how can I, we only have the data for this life, and its getting richer and more analytical showing how and why these people are in the situation they are in. The wealth gap is quite something (the distribution of wealth amongst humans is horrific). And if previous life karma is the actual answer for all of this, I don't know what to say. Only thing I can think of is a trial of a new economy that's doesn't exploit the poor and needy. That would require domination and other instincts to be removed. Like I already wrote but with another wording: 'You are not meant to save the world'. "Resistance is futile", said the Borg. Resistance in the form that you have fate (prophetic determinations) against you, the world simply does not want you to go against the nature of events. Try to save yourself and save as many people you can, if you can, and spread the light around you, but you cannot change the fate of the Earth. Even if you do not want to accept what I have written about the background information, you can at least accept what it is that you see and stop being as naive as to think there is anything you can do about it. Whether you believe in reincarnation, karma, or not matters little, I have said that even acceptance of the existence of a supernatural being is irrelevant to my prescription, as long as you understand it is lowly and unworthy to let yourself be acting in predictable ways based on the instinct of the body you reside within, which you clearly can stand above and rule over if you put your mind to it, and which reward is further clarity of mind into a conscious awareness of the beforementioned fact and faculty of reason to be equipped to understand logic on a level that makes supernaturality to be an inevitable truth. But if you want to waste your time trying to change a doomed, 'mind-controlled' world go ahead but I am not joining you, I have more important objectives such as helping potent souls take the final step in a world of lies, something which really matters. I acknowledge that poor people I will always have with me and more often than not they belong to mindless individuals, no matter how cruel my words sound to you, I may not treat them poorly but their fate is not my concern unless I distinguish that needle in a haystack. Please acknowledge that the world is designed to be like that and you fight a really uphill battle to manage to change this instinctive beast on Earth, and you fight using the wrong methods to change them on material level rather than on a spiritual level to begin with. No one has succeeded in many thousands of years, World War 2 was fought just 80 years ago and the same cruelty of war exists everywhere except there is no world war right now. World War 3 will be more like a global civil war and I would not be surprised if it starts within a decade. The history of mankind is full of spilled blood and there is no indication it is going to ever change either, so stop with your naive thoughts is my recommendation to you. Golden eras (such as the relative peace on Earth the past time after the world wars) have existed throughout history before as well, e.g. the Persian Empire under certain emperors were peaceful at a level comparable to our past 80 years after World War 2. But wars will end and wars will begin and the root of the evil is the human instincts. If you are going to try to impose a temporary working system to balance wealth on Earth a war will be forced to be fought in order to establish the system, and it will soon deteriorate and turn all to shit again, literally. Am I a pessimist? No, I am a realist. Mankind has been like this for thousands of years and it has gone up and gone down like a rollercoaster. So what, do we just say karma is the reason. Studying and proposition of new systems, increase in quality of life through protests have brought changes such as women being able to work and working hours cut, minimum wage increase, health and safety standards. But this is for humans on earth and probably different to your subject of how to become of Allahem, but I feel they are connected. But then if it is karma for all these issues, how to fix collectively, or is this futile. Be an individual and try to avoid the instinct, teach about the 'instinct is of the bodily' and we are in jahannom right now. What if bad karma keeps coming, what if one tries to but karma keeps hitting. What does it accomplish for the true purpose? More good souls becoming born as women and the bad are men? Maybe an interesting turn of the tides. Women already had a better time every now and then back in the days, although we can probably say it is best in this era. Things have not always been bad in the past, it is going up and down. "The good outweighs the bad", is a saying of mine you can learn straight away. The results of Karma is not a punishment and not necessarily something which has to be enforced continuously, it is just a global indicator. A person might be born blind but is born in a "western society" and can have aid for his disability plus respect instead of mockery. A lot of disabled people work as normal people although they clearly have a handicap and they have a chance to prove their worth and evolve mentally, their handicap is not a handicap in order to grow mentally (except of course it is a mental handicap). 'Those Who Are Being' read your mind 24/7 and can monitor your thought processes, notice considerable change and whatever you have done can be remitted in a heartbeat as if you never did anything wrong. It is a more intelligent system than you might have presumed from me writing. It is a complex system which is supposed to work involving the whole humanity on Earth with exact precision, no one is ever forgotten anywhere on Earth. So studying/learning may be helpful, but ultimately the only way to help is to learn the way of removing the instinct, its quite a challenge. I've been thinking about how it always is there every day. Good. Good. Hopefully it will eventually bring clarity to the things which bother your mind. Interestingly learning becomes easier when the mind becomes more ascended, even for knowledge about the material world. I can walk in a park, slip and fall in a thorn bush with nettles. Is this karma or just bad probability. Can probability exist with karma? Can you give an example where both coexist. And I'm talking about the soul activity linked to karma. Karma is a fixed equation. Do good you get 1 point, do bad you get -1 point I think. Probability is a distribution with a weight of chance for each band and no predetermination (unless one believes in predetermination of flipping a coin i.e. flip a coin, is the outcome already known to Allahem?). So then are we not talking about probability of objects like coins or dice, but of the human decision/choice and outcome, the probability of how intense the outcome will be. Someone hits someone else. There is a probability the other person will be ok, hurt, become disabled or die. Or is this determined by Karma. If you walk into a park and slip you are either being clumsy, problem with motor skill, or someone else was thoughtless like throwing banana peel on the ground that you slipped on. Deed versus intention are two different things, you can do bad with good intention and vice versa. Like I wrote it is very complicated and you do not really need to work your mind like that on this. Birth situation and life story is calculated using a formula based on soul status/integrity which involves the so-called "karma system" on the basis of it determining the underlying reasons for your actions more than the actions themselves. It is not a sterile, primitive system with easily predictable modifiers for the "karma score" if to put it like that. You are being treated based on how you handle the instincts and not really what you do from a human perspective, they may even consider you a bad person while you are not a bad person from "the eyes" of 'Those Who Are Being'. If you have read the Bible refer to the story about Moses and the co-traveler who performs, according to Moses, mischievous deeds while Moses does not understand the underlying reason for him doing them although the co-traveler does explain in the end why he did what he did, although the story does not reveal whether Moses accepted his choices or not, but the lesson can be used on what we are discussing right here right now. I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill to be honest, as the English saying goes. You are averse because you cannot understand the system. Do you understand the practical benefit of a reincarnation system as opposed to a one person life-time chance? It looks like you do not really understand the benefit of wiping one's memory also. Speaking to people individually you can sometimes see the soul in them, the rational and logical minds. In groups, sometimes a different story. But on an individual basis, a number are/can be good. Humans should avoid being triggered by being in groups or entirely avoid social lives. The group identity instinct is really strong in Homo sapiens so in proximity with other individuals this behavior is hard to resist and requires training and discipline. Not sure this is mentioned enough in the Jesu legacy, but there is sometimes mentioned about being like sheep and so on which implies there is a flock behavior. The sheep as an animal is easy to relate to in discussions like these, it is remarkably easy to herd because all the sheep will move with the others.
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Post by yes on Sept 16, 2021 0:08:52 GMT
The issue I have with the karma system is the memory wiping part. Say for a drunk driver, they may have forgot what they did, but a party can be called as witnesses, and in our times we have cctv. The drunk driver will hear what they have done in a court of law, and maybe be able to see it. But as a new soul, they will not know at all, nothing will say they did anything wrong. They will not be shown, no one will know except Allahem. The main issue is that the person will have absolutely no clue what they did, but what they will receive is pain be it physical or mental.
Have you felt harsh physical pain, what about chronic pain. Some people have quite bad pain that just goes on and on with no cure. What about the mental side, How about people who have phobias, scared of the dark, nightmares, intrusive thoughts, hallucinations. Does this show mental weakness.
I may not understand the system yet but one can only do that by reflecting, and as I am doing here, asking questions.
I realize I'm talking a lot about materialism, but this is due you speaking about the karma system giving more developed souls more 'material benefits' in this world, whereas less developed souls 'less material benefits/poor'. But if I was to take the karma system as true, I would have thought the souls may be distributed based on quality of life and not standard of living i.e. developed souls can be placed in a village somewhere in a third world country, they may be poor materially, but their quality of life is ok.
You previously said we should not take sides in the covid vaccine issue, can you let me know why. I'm quite confident one should take the vaccine.
I would have thought the prophets of the past would have spoken with more empathy than what you have, but you are saying that no empathy/emotion is needed and that about the poor 'their fate is not of my concern' because they are underdeveloped. Could you just clarify this point as I may have made a mistake but based on the wording it looks this way. I can see that you are trying to be as emotionless as possible so as to not get human emotion to cloud you're decision making, but I'm not entirely sure that empathy is a human emotion, I think it is of a higher level.
And yes I can see the world is how it is, but there is always thought in how it can be improved. But on the spiritual question I don't think many people care about the question of 'why are we here', and when they do it turns into religion that I feel has no substance, so that's why I'm asking you. As your deciphering of the Manifestation is in my view quite something.
Why when people suffer does it not bother you? I thought it was meant to. Not as a homo sapien, but even as Allahem, do you not want them to succeed, every one of them, even if the probability may be miniscule. I thought humans were sentient, you said every other animal doesnt feel janahannom as we do, i.e. actually feel the suffering, all other fauna are like robots and are designed that way. But are not humans sentient, they can actually feel pain, so it still doesnt not bother you? And I'm not saying it on an emotional level for you individually i.e. feel sad for everyone that's starving in Africa, and seeing this suffering is causing loss in faith. No, I just mean bother as in you hope that they seize to suffer and are taken care of.
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Post by . on Sept 16, 2021 4:58:08 GMT
Immanuel why do you think that the more advanced souls might be born in female bodies?
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 16, 2021 23:22:50 GMT
The issue I have with the karma system is the memory wiping part. Say for a drunk driver, they may have forgot what they did, but a party can be called as witnesses, and in our times we have cctv. The drunk driver will hear what they have done in a court of law, and maybe be able to see it. But as a new soul, they will not know at all, nothing will say they did anything wrong. They will not be shown, no one will know except Allahem. The main issue is that the person will have absolutely no clue what they did, but what they will receive is pain be it physical or mental. But do you really need to know if you know you performed poorly? Your memories of what you did might furthermore hamper your progress, like haunt you etc. You cannot remember the past life if the purpose of the reincarnation is supposed to work in practice and I have told you the pieces must fit so to say, there is a story on Earth and people must have their souls distributed. Have you felt harsh physical pain, what about chronic pain. Some people have quite bad pain that just goes on and on with no cure. What about the mental side, How about people who have phobias, scared of the dark, nightmares, intrusive thoughts, hallucinations. Does this show mental weakness. I live with the tendency to develop kidney stones and have had serious ones that required medical attention so I know the definition of pain. I partially blame my earlier part of life though and diet. I am basically allergic to salt, even smaller amounts give me pain from my kidneys and if I eat salty food (because someone else prepared it) I need to consume considerable amounts of water as quickly as possible in order to flush the kidneys. Mental problems are sometimes related to the mind/soul business. The body may act strangely when for some reason the mind link between body and mind is severed or weakened because then it starts running as an animal, like animal mode. Like I have written, the mind and body are not the same organism. It requires a long elaboration in order to explain that, like an essay. But cut short, there are issues related to the body malfunctioning and therefore the mind cannot retain control, or problems related to the mind getting unstable leading to the Homo sapiens to be in "animal mode" while the mind is disabled/weakened. I realize I'm talking a lot about materialism, but this is due you speaking about the karma system giving more developed souls more 'material benefits' in this world, whereas less developed souls 'less material benefits/poor'. But if I was to take the karma system as true, I would have thought the souls may be distributed based on quality of life and not standard of living i.e. developed souls can be placed in a village somewhere in a third world country, they may be poor materially, but their quality of life is ok. Here are some extracts from what I have written. There is once I could have formulated myself much better like when I wrote "in a developed country somewhere". Obviously it could be anywhere where the quality of life is decent enough to have a decent quality of life. Not once did I emphasize on materialism though. You are born under conditions fit for your soul condition. Wealthiness is a burden just as poverty is. None of them are easy situations but I would prefer leaning towards poverty as wealth tends to become where your heart is, it is best to have shelter, well enough of food, and a small money cache perhaps to make sure food keeps being on the table, as that is how the humans have decided to live i.e. using a monetary system. The wealthy people who are greedy are obviously not the most developed souls or they are developed souls placed in a situation in order to test them. Domination and greed are high up on the list of "sins". Being rich is not necessarily a good thing. See for yourself if the rich people have any desire to share their wealth to any particular extent. Poverty could vanish completely if the wealth was distributed evenly across the Earth. But so does not happen and you have already been told why. No I cannot see that a new soul is placed in a miserable situation, it is probably placed in a neutral condition in a developed country somewhere e.g. middle-class I think you force my words into some strange interpretation to be honest. The first quote "You are born under conditions fit for your soul condition." is probably the best. You previously said we should not take sides in the covid vaccine issue, can you let me know why. I'm quite confident one should take the vaccine. Because it is a politically charged topic and I cannot get involved in politics. I understand why people may want to take the vaccine and I understand why people may not want to take it. I would have thought the prophets of the past would have spoken with more empathy than what you have, but you are saying that no empathy/emotion is needed and that about the poor 'their fate is not of my concern' because they are underdeveloped. Could you just clarify this point as I may have made a mistake but based on the wording it looks this way. I can see that you are trying to be as emotionless as possible so as to not get human emotion to cloud you're decision making, but I'm not entirely sure that empathy is a human emotion, I think it is of a higher level. I am trying to make everything crystal clear. 'Those Who Are Being' have not had any qualms about placing the human being on Earth and often make it suffer for a guided evolution of a potentially intelligent being, and it is logical to draw the conclusion that there is missing or no empathy involved. Some level of sadness can also be displayed in animals and animals can show some level of basic empathy. If, if we are to become affected by every issue this Earth has we will run into obstacles seeing the straight path ahead and that is also exactly why the Earth has all the problems it has, to bring people to become even more preoccupied. I intentionally put it as bluntly in text as I could in my previous post as a shock factor, obviously I pity those who suffer but what am I to do about it? Jesus sounded non-the-more enthusiastic with "the poor you will always have with you". If you think the prophets were all soft-sweet men in white robes who kept the plain truth inside themselves because it would hurt others, I have to tell you are unfortunately wrong and have lived in some kind of illusion. Even in the stories about Jesus he was often by your terms cold, he even scolded Simon Peter to stop mourning that Jesus was going to die by telling him to get rid of Satan i.e. he told him to not be emotionally instinctive. You need to learn if you are going to progress to the end that you cannot waste your time on matters which do not concern you. My important lesson is that you cannot be controlled by emotion but must be in control of emotion. You need to use logic in everything you do. Logic is the way of 'Those Who Are Being'. This world has its "programming" and you cannot deplete your mental or even physical energy on it. People are going to starve and die and if you are going to choose to feel bad about it you are simply wasting your energy. You still have a lot of progress to be made and to face certain inevitable truths. I am not any particularly cold, I am just describing things as they are. One thing that you must do is to stop thinking like the human you have been on Earth. I hope you can see the point. And yes I can see the world is how it is, but there is always thought in how it can be improved. But on the spiritual question I don't think many people care about the question of 'why are we here', and when they do it turns into religion that I feel has no substance, so that's why I'm asking you. As your deciphering of the Manifestation is in my view quite something. Well, it was already prophesied over 2500 years ago! You are spot on with "But on the spiritual question I don't think many people care about the question of 'why are we here'". This is why I cannot be bothered too much with underdeveloped people. People who have not evolved over thousands of years and countless incarnations, why would they begin to evolve now 2021 AD? And would I find those among trash people who do not show many signs of an intelligent being? Why would 'Those Who Are Being' care about those who do not care about growing and why would I in return care about these people? I could care, but what difference would it make? Nominal. If I start talking about the supernatural, do you think they would understand anything about what is being said, it would enter their ears and then there is a big "does not compute, does not compute". Why when people suffer does it not bother you? I thought it was meant to. Not as a homo sapien, but even as Allahem, do you not want them to succeed, every one of them, even if the probability may be miniscule. I thought humans were sentient, you said every other animal doesnt feel janahannom as we do, i.e. actually feel the suffering, all other fauna are like robots and are designed that way. But are not humans sentient, they can actually feel pain, so it still doesnt not bother you? And I'm not saying it on an emotional level for you individually i.e. feel sad for everyone that's starving in Africa, and seeing this suffering is causing loss in faith. No, I just mean bother as in you hope that they seize to suffer and are taken care of. The issue here is that I have to an extent had my mind assimilated into 'Those Who Are Being' and I can "think with their collective mind" and because of that these matters do not bother me the way they bother you. I could wish/want that everyone of the people succeeded but now the most likely truth is they will not. Like I wrote above, there are individuals who have passed on for thousands of years in countless incarnations with their minds barely evolving at all the slightest. What is the probability that these people will grow now? Almost non-existent. I may not treat them poorly but their fate is not my concern unless I distinguish that needle in a haystack. This was my whole sentence but you isolated the, to you, emotional part. Am I writing their fate may not bother me or things like it or that they may blame themselves? You attributed bother in an exaggerated argument about what I think. I have written it does not bother me like it does to you. It does not bother me much, or rather I do not let it bother me. What do I have to benefit from letting it bother me? Immanuel why do you think that the more advanced souls might be born in female bodies? You were saying women are having a better time, a better quality of life, and that means the likelihood of their bodies hosting more evolved souls may increase. My response was a rhetoric based on that.
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Post by yes on Sept 18, 2021 13:02:55 GMT
Yes, sorry I misread some parts and now realize you speak about the spawn distribution being complex and souls being born are under conditions fit for these souls at the time, my bad.
You asked what my proposition of a system would be instead of this karma system - The point I'm trying to raise is that sometimes the suffering one gets is vary harsh and demoralizing at times. I know you've mentioned that it's meant to break down the subjects, but if one is trying to reflect, control the instinct, but is in pain, its hard. Many people may not experience this type of physical pain, but quite a few do. It feels like a punishment and not 'cause and effect', I say it feels like, and I say 'why am I suffering', 'what is the point of this'. That's why I'm talking about probability, say for example one person has the flu, and a few catch it. The impacts of the flu will differ from person to person, one may not get ill as much, one may get it quite bad, and one may get it really bad. This probably brings us to the immune system, and a range of different factors like viral load etc. But the question is, is this karma or is this just being unlucky. If every thing is cause and effect, this is karma. In fact, everything will then be karma. But then I ask, 'what is the cause'; there are many times instinct is used in ones life which may negatively affect the score, so where is this record, or is it kept off view to not cause a 'haunting' effect to people.
If I flip a coin, would 'Those who are' know the outcome.
And also, the souls have been placed in humans, making it hard for them to progress i.e. instincts are very difficult to control. Humans are thus prone to causing issues, so why make us in the first place, if many are set up to suffer and fail.
Covid-19 vaccine is not a political issue, but it has been politicized by some, but you use logic, so using logic the benefits of taking the vaccine outweigh the negatives. The probability that one gets hospitalized given they've had the vaccine is so much lower compared to if they have not. Same with deaths instead of hospitalizations. Surely there is no question about this. I can understand somewhat why some may not want to take it due to trust issues etc. but the data is there and is this not logic? I'm not saying to get involved in politics, I'm simply stating that one should take the vaccine based on this logic, is this not correct?
To not get any sort of illness, this would be very difficult, you would have to isolate yourself from anything that can carry disease, which would be extremely tough, and even then genetics may play a factor. So then genetics is a part of the karma system, everything is intertwined in this? Are you able to give a full timeline of one who was a seed, placed in a human, and how all these complexities are via the karma system. This includes things like they may do something 'bad' in the first life, and in that same life karma might hit but not too much as to put the points to zero, so the next life they have a condition which puts the karma back to zero, so what is this condition, what bad action produces a cold etc.
And to continue the mental side. Some people can watch horror/gory movies and some can't, is this a mental weakness of the person who can't. Some people have severe phobias. You've talked about the mental side of how the body goes into animal mode while the mind is essentially severed/weakened and the person cannot retain control, but why do we have nightmares in the first place. Some people have ptsd/hallucinations. You've said it requires a long elaboration, so can you elaborate when you have time? We can see the fauna experience physical pain, but mental pain is on a different spectrum.
I also have a question with the topic , lets keep it to the same 'starving in Africa'. So they are truly suffering on their own and there is no hope? They can't break out as Allahem in this life because they are starving, the first thing on their mind is food to survive, but they don't have enough food, which has happened throughout time to some people. So in this life, they simply exist to suffer and die. And maybe in their next spawn they can do something about it, but in this life, because of bad karma they exist to suffer and die.
Would you be able to paint the picture of what is going through Allahems 'mind', as they have no human emotion on say a very bad atrocity, Unit 731 in WW2 Japan. They've allowed this to happen as they aren't supposed to get involved, but can if they want, but can you take me through what it is to feel like Allahem during this time, so without human emotions, i.e. what they think. Just so I can see what it seems like to word out without human emotion playing its part, logic on cause and effect, human on human atrocity as its not 'nature' on human in this scenario. Because I'd be more understanding if they can't intervene i.e. they actually can't as they don't have capacity, but because you've said that they can but don't because they're not meant to, well.
Do you think people fundamentally know about the karma system, or do they have to be taught, or do they have to 'realize'.
You used to say 'rab' is 'God' in a way, or foundation when I was speaking/writing to you c5 years ago, have you found anything in that time where the words you have found to be different to when you initially wrote about the ILMs. How is the project going? Has it been quite slow recently or picking up. Is your understanding of the original language improved a lot since then. Have any words peaked you interest, or have any words in the modern Arabic stayed largely the same, or have any changed a lot.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 19, 2021 10:49:28 GMT
ou asked what my proposition of a system would be instead of this karma system - The point I'm trying to raise is that sometimes the suffering one gets is vary harsh and demoralizing at times. I know you've mentioned that it's meant to break down the subjects, but if one is trying to reflect, control the instinct, but is in pain, its hard. Many people may not experience this type of physical pain, but quite a few do. It feels like a punishment and not 'cause and effect', I say it feels like, and I say 'why am I suffering', 'what is the point of this'. That's why I'm talking about probability, say for example one person has the flu, and a few catch it. The impacts of the flu will differ from person to person, one may not get ill as much, one may get it quite bad, and one may get it really bad. This probably brings us to the immune system, and a range of different factors like viral load etc. But the question is, is this karma or is this just being unlucky. If every thing is cause and effect, this is karma. In fact, everything will then be karma. Without taking sides between you and 'Those Who Are Being' i.e. you have no reason to argue with me but I am speaking about how things are; the Earth is meant to "signal" a paradox and a (truly) smart person is supposed to figure out that the Earth is innately evil so to say. Even good people with a decent mental development are sometimes exposed to pain. There are so many factors which play in it requires a book to explain it. You were talking about the spread of disease and here personal choice of action plays in and there is an "open game world" where you have to make decisions in real time and which will cause consequences, positive or negative. Humans are instinctively driven towards social interaction and proximity to others humans, something which is not always best, for example you need to neither kiss or hug another person to get by but it is imprinted into the human social code, nor do you need even to shake hands with them. Touch hands I have understood is a behavior also existing in primates and the compulsion to take someone else in the hand may be instinctively driven. In the best of worlds humans do not touch each other at all, at least not outside of their closest family. Covid-19 would not have spread as easily if people were not instinctively compelled to be socially close. It is the behavior to be touching each other which is most detrimental. Another crucial factor is personal hygiene and diet, lack of certain vitamins and minerals will affect the immune system negatively. Like I wrote, the "Karma system" is complex, and it is not the only factor involved either but there is "the personal choice of action" with consequences bound to logic and exposure to the prophetic foretelling. But then I ask, 'what is the cause'; there are many times instinct is used in ones life which may negatively affect the score, so where is this record, or is it kept off view to not cause a 'haunting' effect to people. How do you expect this record to be displayed? If people are to be unaware of the supernatural level of existence any exposure of such system cannot be public of course. At any rate, if you are interested ask 'Those Who Are Being' yourself if you are that interested in your score in case you would ever get in contact with them. If you reflect a little about your life quality, acknowledgement that the supernatural exists and your level of consciousness you can measure it yourself sufficiently I would say. If I flip a coin, would 'Those who are' know the outcome. Why would they not know the outcome? They are running the world in real time using their combined mental force and when you signal to the body to do just about anything they execute the action and not you even if you believe so. The body does not even have to obey you, it can refuse to move the arm. They have control over every atom in the universe so obviously they would know about the outcome of your coin flipping. And also, the souls have been placed in humans, making it hard for them to progress i.e. instincts are very difficult to control. Humans are thus prone to causing issues, so why make us in the first place, if many are set up to suffer and fail. I have told you, it is meant to be hard for people to progress. However people make it harder for themselves in their own delusions. People were not "set up to suffer and fail", if you believe that you are thinking about it the wrong way. Purely the way it is from the start is like this; they make an environment and place an astronomical amount of blank soul seeds into it in bodies called Homo sapiens which are no more than animals and originally behaved more like it (because the soul seeds were blank). The soul seeds are copies (images) of 'Those Who Are Being', the platform so to say. So there are and were billions, even more than trillions, of undeveloped individual platforms inserted into the world to spawn according to some system and 'Those Who Are Being' chose the (one WE call) the "karma system" because as you see it is the most fair given the world functionality itself. It means evolving souls are selected for the better life quality and circumstantial conditions when it is their time to respawn. 'Those Who Are Being' decided to have "continuous loops" i.e. reincarnations as the system of how humans are to have repetitive opportunities to evolve without the bias of their former life meaning their memories are blocked as they are not transferred from body to body. They obviously understood that a minimal (probably none) amount of souls would evolve into pristine souls within one lifetime. The world itself, particularly the own bodies, offer resistance to the souls and they were to evolve with that stimulus being offered and have done so too over the millennia. Most souls have some form of development today 2021. They went past certain milestones I have told you about, Torateh (the "ignition"), Enjeel (the boldening/thickening) and Quaraan (the revelation/manifestation). At each milestone humanity was given stimulus to lead everyone in the right direction. Behavior which promotes spiritual growth with Moses was revealed via the Torateh, the moral code was more or less invented for the Ignition milestone. Next was Injeel which was meant to give more refinement to the old Law in an era when the human was ready for more basically, following what Jesus taught leads to even more spiritual development even if the old Mosaic Law is very fine already. Finally we have the Qaraan which is simply put giving away the whole background information behind existence and the reason behind both of the old milestones is presented and why people are to follow the prescription. I am telling you about the reincarnation and all the mechanics around it because this is the meaning of this milestone as you and everyone who wishes to listen are meant to have this information now, and not hidden within cryptic parables anymore. I am authorized to speak in very thorough ways about what I know about 'Those Who Are Being' and the world they put in motion. The human souls are by those means evolving in a controlled environment linearly with how Homo sapiens evolves as a race on Earth. Now I have tried to bring you a thorough elaboration regarding the system itself. The world is giving a context to the souls.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 19, 2021 10:56:43 GMT
Covid-19 vaccine is not a political issue, but it has been politicized by some, but you use logic, so using logic the benefits of taking the vaccine outweigh the negatives. The probability that one gets hospitalized given they've had the vaccine is so much lower compared to if they have not. Same with deaths instead of hospitalizations. Surely there is no question about this. I can understand somewhat why some may not want to take it due to trust issues etc. but the data is there and is this not logic? I'm not saying to get involved in politics, I'm simply stating that one should take the vaccine based on this logic, is this not correct? I am not interested in getting involved. The one who thinks and learns about everything I have told must make their own evaluation. To not get any sort of illness, this would be very difficult, you would have to isolate yourself from anything that can carry disease, which would be extremely tough, and even then genetics may play a factor. So then genetics is a part of the karma system, everything is intertwined in this? Are you able to give a full timeline of one who was a seed, placed in a human, and how all these complexities are via the karma system. This includes things like they may do something 'bad' in the first life, and in that same life karma might hit but not too much as to put the points to zero, so the next life they have a condition which puts the karma back to zero, so what is this condition, what bad action produces a cold etc. Even your mental strength can help prevent disease, but it can also be prevented by keeping the body at high health something which obviously gets harder as the body ages though. I have told you the system is complex and involves "external factors" such as that the world is consequential based on the actions in it, like a video game.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 19, 2021 15:33:40 GMT
To not get any sort of illness, this would be very difficult, you would have to isolate yourself from anything that can carry disease, which would be extremely tough, Yes, however you can take basic precautions such as avoid e.g. hugging, kissing and shaking hands which will help a great deal, plus as I mentioned in a previous post you will strengthen your immune system with a proper diet, focus on hygiene, and exercise will help. Isolation is also not required, you can simply keep your distance, think about where you place your hands and meet others in a sufficiently spaced environment and also make sure it is sufficiently ventilated. I cannot imagine that everyone with a poor immune system cannot do whatever they can with diet to make it as strong as possible nevertheless. I understand people who have an auto immune system disorder though, they have to take extreme measures in order not to become ill but it is technically possible to make a very sterile environment with people who are thoughtful and not mindless. And to continue the mental side. Some people can watch horror/gory movies and some can't, is this a mental weakness of the person who can't. Some people have severe phobias. You've talked about the mental side of how the body goes into animal mode while the mind is essentially severed/weakened and the person cannot retain control, but why do we have nightmares in the first place. Some people have ptsd/hallucinations. You've said it requires a long elaboration, so can you elaborate when you have time? We can see the fauna experience physical pain, but mental pain is on a different spectrum. You ask questions which require a good psychology book with hundreds of pages and expect me to answer them in posts on a forum? Easy way to put it you can look at animals being more easily scared than others within the same species. Being scared is an instinctive response and even if a person can handle things well the body will trigger a bodily response, the question is if the mind can handle the body when it is scared. Some bodies are less prone to becoming scared, but biologically women, particularly feminine ones, are more prone to becoming scared and this has to do with them having to be more careful by nature in order to not put themselves in unnecessary danger as being the species' female. As opposed masculine men tend to show less fear as they are meant to be the protectors of the females by nature. Genetic inheritance can be an explanation why some people are displaying things like arachnophobia because the spider may signal potential life-threatening danger regardless if the spider type is actually lethally toxic or not, it is the image of the actual spider scaring them like an imprinted image in their brain. Some, often women as per my own experience, are even scared of mice and rats to the point of running away or jumping up on stairs, and it is probably understandable that this genetic fear is existent as the mice and rats can be potentially dangerous because they can spread dangerous diseases and have done so throughout history and because of the women's instinct to protect themselves via fear is strong they are more prone to display these phobia and then calling in the men to beat the mouse to death. There are hence biological explanations to the question you speak about. I did not say that men cannot be afraid of spiders, mice, rats and other stuff. but why do we have nightmares in the first place. Imagination of the Homo sapient brain. Even dogs appear to be able to dream and can whimper while asleep as if something scary happens. The reason why your mind cannot easily affect dream content is because it is being generated by the body itself without your influence and fears the body has in its life can present itself as a nightmare, fears that can even be unknown to your conscious mind as opposed to the subconsciousness and hence you have little explanation about why you were dreaming what you were dreaming. Not very hard to understand but for example if your body misses things of a sexual nature you might dream about rolling around with someone in a meadow without it having any relationship to what you have experienced while awake. That particular dream my body has had in the example. No matter your abstention methods the body will miss the sexual interaction in life, although with the age-related decrease of fertility this might diminish with time. But things can be less obvious too as your mind and your body are two different things and you may even be unaware of what disturbs it, and it may be presented as so-called nightmares. What is a nightmare can also depend on both mind and body; some are having dreams which would be classified as nightmares by others. A strong mind can also train the body to be less scared by things, a way of getting aid by someone else is going to a psychologist if your mind cannot do this yourself, but there is also self-therapy to train your body to reduce the phobia. Some inherent fear of spiders for example in the body might be healthy, there are dangerous spiders which it is good to instinctively shrug away from and you may not know immediately which one you have encountered. The movement to evade insects is a kind of reflex. In the last couple of paragraphs I went back to speak about phobias. I also have a question with the topic , lets keep it to the same 'starving in Africa'. So they are truly suffering on their own and there is no hope? They can't break out as Allahem in this life because they are starving, the first thing on their mind is food to survive, but they don't have enough food, which has happened throughout time to some people. So in this life, they simply exist to suffer and die. And maybe in their next spawn they can do something about it, but in this life, because of bad karma they exist to suffer and die. The mind and body are two different organisms and you do not need material food in order to progress although your body will obviously die if there is too much malnutrition. Those who suffer like it in Africa are that part of humanity who did not evolve over thousands of years, but the ones that do not suffer in Africa but live in stable indigenous villages in a primitive way can be more evolved people than the previous ones. The sufferers both never evolved and did bad things previously. And they do not exist to suffer and die, it is just that they do not do anything about it, either because they do not have the know-how or someone works against them (bad karma for the oppressors). It is hard to do anything about these people, they lack thousands of years of progression and even if you give them enough food and secure shelter it is a "hit-or-miss" to try to help them, especially if you do not mentor them spiritually on the level of the Torateh, the first milestone from thousand years ago. The modern world may be just confusing to them because they are not intelligent enough, it would be best for them to evolve in a basic environment with "not too much fuss" around them. I do not discredit anyone who spends their life trying to help them if they can spread the required/relevant milestone teaching to them while they help them on a material level, it is simply just not my mission as the Manifestation revealer. If you have a mission you need to stick to it, this is why I told you it is not my concern about the things which occur in Africa, if I let it bother me it might just distract me from my mission. Outside of that obviously I feel it is a shame that they have caused themselves to remain in the doomed world they have created and pity that regardless if they are at fault themselves. The instinct is strong in these people and the traditions are enforced and they get many children which worsens the situation for the people in Africa. If the amount of born children shrunk in the third world their problems would also decrease plus there goes men to exploit their lands causing them to live in poverty. Who has not heard to diamond mines in Africa with a black labor force? If the white missionaries had gone to Africa to truly enlighten the black people to begin with Africa could have thrived better today. But financial greed simply covered the spirituality so that did not become the case even if I think Christian missionaries in many cases had a noble intention with going to Africa. Isolated cases of improved life conditions exist in Africa but corruption spread due to human greed and urge for dominance. Like I wrote, you ask me questions which would require a written book on the topic with an author which focuses on the subject at hand. Am I here to write books or to spread enlightenment? Well, I wonder where my level of responsibility really has its borderlines, I am here to manifest everything in detail but I wonder how much I am meant to write in order to carry out my mission. An issue is that you try to make things so complicated and you ask things that many times can be answered by a psychologist and in some cases even better by one since it is his/her profession. A brain scientist, psychiatrist, could probably also explain a great deal about how the human brain works as an organism through observation. Problem is you make things unnecessarily hard on both me and yourself, you seem to think within the confines of a human brain thinking and think things like empathy i.e. emotion matters at the same level on a higher level and I have told you that they ('Those Who Are Being') simply are not concerned about suffering, both psychological and physical, caused by the world which they have created, and if people do not understand themselves to act against the powers of an innately evil world they have to "suit themselves" basically. Metaphorically please compare to how humans regard animals that they may slaughter and eat usually without much problem, it is mostly natural to them. The animals do actually suffer and whimper when you do hurt them as you can see if you slowly kill them (which you should not). Very weakly evolved humans are not much different from these animals and 'Those Who Are Being' do not care much differently about them than the animals. Your issue with this is your animal instinct to rush to the defense for your species like a bull would protect his flock from harm. I am looking at humans like animals and I would be upset if I see an animal suffer just as I would if I saw a human suffer, but the attachment is not deeper than that. I mean, if an animal kills another animal I would not react very strongly, it is nature and just the same it is nature if a human kills another human, if you understand what I mean. THIS IS HOW 'THOSE WHO ARE BEING' SEES IT, it is simply nature. But 'Those Who Are Being' do respond to evolving humans and cater to those who show great promise but do never lead ahead of them but rather interact inside of them as they progress plus within their life story as it evolves. It means there is no guidance the way religious people tend to perceive it. 'Those Who Are Being' DO WANT people to succeed even if you have the impression that they do not care about it. For example, if they did not want people to succeed they would not reveal the so-called milestones. Contrary to what what was previously true they actually give humanity the information about everything now with the third milestone i.e. that I am telling people the whole truth behind their life on Earth, the remaining issue is that people need the sufficient intelligence to accept the information as true in a sea of disinformation, so it is still a mental test and people who never managed to take to themselves the first and second milestone will obviously have a huge handicap. Would you be able to paint the picture of what is going through Allahems 'mind', as they have no human emotion on say a very bad atrocity, Unit 731 in WW2 Japan. They've allowed this to happen as they aren't supposed to get involved, but can if they want, but can you take me through what it is to feel like Allahem during this time, so without human emotions, i.e. what they think. Just so I can see what it seems like to word out without human emotion playing its part, logic on cause and effect, human on human atrocity as its not 'nature' on human in this scenario. Because I'd be more understanding if they can't intervene i.e. they actually can't as they don't have capacity, but because you've said that they can but don't because they're not meant to, well. Like I wrote, humans with a weak mind are seen as animals going on about their business, and I write that because you asked. What makes humans potentially more dangerous than other animals is because of the mind that can think with a mix of brain and mind, this mix is volatile for the how things play out, but what they want instinctively is not different from any animal. Obviously they could intervene at any time as they are running the whole projection, in essence it is they who render humans with instincts just like any other animal. What is it that you cannot understand? That "they" are not benevolent by human terms but actually pretty cold and indifferent? I think the comparison of human versus animal is pretty good as a measuring stick, most humans do not really get that upset if they see an animal kill another animal in nature, but they would normally get immensely upset if a human kills another human, although however they might get less upset if they think the person "deserves it". Like I have said, you are confounded because you insist on thinking in human terms instead of leaving your humanity behind yourself. You cannot both remain human and be superhuman at the same time and understand things. They think very differently from how you perceive things. Do you think people fundamentally know about the karma system, or do they have to be taught, or do they have to 'realize'. It is something retained in culture e.g. Christian values which comes from inheritance, although some things can be helped by the bodily nature itself i.e. empathy for the own species in a variety of situations for example a mother caring for her children. On top of that, a person using their mind can also come to their senses that way. A person detached from instinct will have an easier time. You used to say 'rab' is 'God' in a way, or foundation when I was speaking/writing to you c5 years ago, have you found anything in that time where the words you have found to be different to when you initially wrote about the ILMs. How is the project going? Has it been quite slow recently or picking up. Is your understanding of the original language improved a lot since then. Have any words peaked you interest, or have any words in the modern Arabic stayed largely the same, or have any changed a lot. Yes I used to believe that 'Rabb' was a word to refer to 'God' via thinking of it as a foundation and/or sustainer and/or developer. When I argued these things I had less knowledge about the Semitic language system. I was not really correct because I still saw the word as a proper noun rather than a normal word of the language, and my arguments were based on what could be found in Arabic lexicons of the past. The word 'rabb' means to evolve/develop/grow or even to mentor (in order for someone to grow). Rabbi, word with suffix Ye, would indicate something like a Mentor, the word would mean literally 'a developer (entity)' but translation is difficult; and hence when the disciples of Jesus called upon him by 'rabbi' and it would be easier to see it in English as Mentor, or Master (but not using the definition 'to dominate/rule but as someone standing for something you seek to learn). But the meaning in the original language refers to that "the person is an evolved one", this old (code-like) language is phenomenal for conveying many words in just a few symbols, three in this case, and this is due to the reason each letter/symbol also holds a more elaborate meaning than just helping making a syllable as in you regular language, compare it like a hybrid between East Asian written languages compared to for example English, and it is easier to understand. The understanding about the ILM of Rabb is basically the same as a few years ago, and it is still difficult to find a perfect definition for the letters hence why I cannot use ILM for every word in the language yet. Originally I defined 'Ra' as Foundation but it is difficult to use it in order to understand the ILM in use. It is important to use more like verbs than nouns in order to make a better prediction of what a word means. 'Be' is easier than 'Ra' in my opinion and means something like with/in. Together they mean '(get) based with/in' or Substantiate With or with easier definition 'give substance to' if we entirely paraphrase it. The pictured meaning is that something gets "fuller" with the 'Ra', that is the abstract meaning while 'Be' connotes inclusion or direction towards something being conjoined towards, 'Be' as a letter is often used in the language as a prefix which makes it easier to deduce its meaning than 'Ra' e.g. "be'esm el'la'heh el-rahaman el-raheem" where the initial 'Be' means like "in the direction of" or "for the following sentence to be true" (grammatically of course) perhaps it is easiest and best way to translate it is "For the condition of an absolutely complete Being" with the initial 'Be' simply being "for". I have also attempted a translation where the subsequent sentence simply starts 'Al-Rahaman Al-Raheem' just like the next time it is used in the context i.e. being the first words of a sentence, meaning "Be'esm El'La'Heh" stands entirely alone, meaning it says "For the condition of Being", something which might turn out logical as the subsequent context speaks about how to learn to be develop the Being. My understanding of the language has vastly improved over a period of five years yes, but the progress has definitely not been optimal. My prophecy-related personal issues have gotten in the way. Progress depends on a combination of ILM, semantics and grammar, it is much more than simple linguistics, the language has not even been understood for hundreds of years, it is like looking at a dead language which was extinct over a thousand years ago, add at least 500 years to 1000. On top of the "extinct" forgotten language someone invented a false language which makes it tremendously harder. Most of the time "modern Arabic" and 'the real language' are at great conflict with each other and definitions are entirely wrong or they add the improper focus to contexts something which can be described by "a play with words". Working with it is extremely tiresome and it does not help I am tired with things and I have no real helper, nor do people acknowledge this little thing which is an uphill battle, but I also dropped the connection with reformist Muslims as I saw they had nothing in common with this nor could they understand it. I refrain from calling myself either this or that nowadays as well. Muslim is not a proper noun but it means 'to be of soundness' (mentally/bodily fully functional), something which is quite the irony if you look at the majority of the population calling themselves that. Related to what I am teaching you could use the word in relationship to logic. You greet someone saying "selam alaykam" because you wish for them soundness, both that their body does not start to malfunction (diseases, injury) and that they keep their sanity. Formerly in English you used the word 'hail' but it could no longer be used after Adolf Hitler as he made people say the "HH" thing, but the hail word comes from the Germanic 'hel' which means whole/complete/intact, literally the same thing as the Semitic Selam word. People say "hi" today, which is the hail cut short or the form "hello", for that reason I use to greet people on this forum with hello because then I mean selam without using foreign words and putting the focus on something which can be misinterpreted as a religious forum, although the spiritual aim is quite obvious but you know what I mean. There are many interesting words of course. There are religiously charged words like 'amen' (should be pronounced Amin so the Arabs do it right actually) which does not really refer to one's faith or belief but it has a much stronger implication such that it bluntly means "to understand" or "to realize" (for real). The old Semitic tongue does generally look down on such things as believing things without substantiating that into firm understanding. Either you understand that "God" exists or you do not, belief is just a weaker maybe although you can be believing more strongly. So if Jesus asked do you believe I can do these things he meant "Do you (now) UNDERSTAND I can do these things? i.e. he used very heavy words on the listener. Likewise this is why I put so much emphasis on understanding in my teaching. It is important to understand and not believe. Via logic you can UNDERSTAND that "God" exists as I have already told you. There is no reason to doubt anything I have told you. The word 'amen' is based on very simple letters "A'lef - Miim - Nun" and basically means Be - Of - Integrity, because of these simple letters it is easy to research on and has been for me. Likewise Miim - Nun 'Min' works as a preposition within the language itself in a grammatical context with a quite similar meaning as "Amin" but saying "Of Integrity-" plus the word in the sentence. Al'la'heh is another word with a WILDLY different meaning because the religious people interpret it as the word for their "God". The word in itself means 'the Being One' as opposed to Al'La'Hem which means 'the Being Them' more properly translated into English as 'Those Who Are Being'. Similarly the singular word refers to the one being in the same context as that the word occurs, the person in question must come forth and it can even be a hypothetical person. Al'La'Hem is a bit more obvious than the former that you refer to a specific group of people, the final Miim in a Semitic word weighs more heavily one might think just as that the letter occurs in 'Jehennom', not only does it add plurality but it adds all inclusiveness to those related to the word something which might be hard to understand when thinking in terms of English. In the Semitic tongue the Miim in Jehennom and Al'La'Hem share similarity because of... yes you understood it right, the ILM functionality. When the words end with Miim it suddenly universally includes everyone who fills the attribute mentioned previously in the word itself. This means that the El'La'Heh with adding Miim is MUCH heavier than understanding the same in for example English. This also means there are two aspects of the "God", the personal (power of) Being which anyone can possess via their soul and the 'Those Who Are Being' group which the one with "power of Being" is included within. The language is deliberately made this way because the whole "God" experience works through a (to us) mysterious symbiosis and so the language reflects the truth of how to perceive life. You never use "I" (the English way of referring to the self) in the language when speaking normal sentences and this is why I originally had difficulty deciphering the language as I was looking for how you say "I". The language avoids any first-person pronoun except when it must be used.
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Post by yes on Oct 10, 2021 1:14:33 GMT
Hi Amenual,
Thanks for your replies.
Basic precautions such as no hugging, kissing or shaking hands reduces the likelihood of not getting disease, but it doesn't nullify. So there is always a chance you can catch something, even if you take so many precautions. People have to go to school/work and during busy periods travelling, its very difficult to completely protect yourself. In essence its ultimately out of your hands in this scenario.
I'm not trying to make the questions hard for you and me, and I would have thought if one was to be spiritually aware on a much higher level, these would not require a book. Many people don't have access to a psychologist etc. so there must be a way to answer them without the complexities, if they are meant to be answered. And I think they are meant to be answered because they are questions based on projections from the mind. Maybe the questions I'm asking are too 'human' and I should focus more on the mind, but are they not put there for a reason, like curiosity or closure.
I wasn't putting forth the argument of rushing to defend my species (humans) as I always thought some animals (octopus, elephants, crows etc.) are sentient and not robots. Put it this way, if they feel pain like humans feel pain then are they not sentient? Isn't it to do with the nervous system, where bugs don't have the neural functions to exhibit pain. But humans (and I thought some other fauna) do.
I guess what I can't figure out is that 'God' doesn't help the ones that call for help, and certain pain, be it physical or mental is just unnecessary and silly. So we are placed on earth as humans, with a special seed that is from the originator. Humans have social tendencies to be close to others, be it hugging or kissing or shaking hands or whatever. But there's a caveat, which is you can get disease from this. So something that looks relatively innocent can cause pain just because it was made that way.
I think another issue is with this mindset that may be portrayed by being 'superhuman'. Some humans will see a homeless person, and because of their human emotions (empathy/sympathy) may feel sad and think of a better system to help them out. But as a 'superhuman', it is one who states in their mind to the homeless "This is karma, you are in this situation because of yourself". I mean, at this point I can't think like that. Yes, currently I do feel the system you have put forth about how seeds were put in the humans for development under harsh conditions are far too harsh and unfair. It just seems cold.
If 'Who are' aren't concerned about suffering then they shouldn't have made it in the first place. But they have and it's here. They put the instinct in humans that give a dopamine/serotonin hit to make one feel good, but a lot of that is actually not good (sugar is addictive as it is ironically very sweet and tasty for humans thus causing gluttony, winning gives domination instinct etc.).
When humans attack other humans due to instinct, how can Allahem see that the same as hyenas feeding on a live deer. I thought you said humans actually 'feel' pain, i.e. are sentient, they are aware that they are aware (maybe some aren't but I think you know what I mean). But animals are like robots, so they don't feel like humans feel, so which one is it.
If one was to try to cut the instinct off, would this not be a very lonely existence on earth. To cut off 'winning' or dominating, going out and having alcohol, buying 'nice' things i.e. things that are material. If one was to abstain from these things that drive the instinct, when nearly everyone, nearly every human participates, this will be very lonely. You'll have minimal, if any, friends. And to what, meditate and try to develop mentally to try and find the truth of existence. What if one tries this and fails, that's a double hit. There is no guarantee that if one were to abstain drivers of instincts and do their best to develop that it will end well where you become 'Those who are'. And like I said previously, why would I want to be a projector in which seeds of existence suffer under harsh conditions from the existors' own doing. That part really irks me. To project a world that includes suffering.
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