Post by Immanuel on Jun 19, 2016 19:39:36 GMT
Hello Selam,
This thread will delve more into what "I AM THAT I AM" means in practice and from where it comes. I felt that perhaps people might misconceive the whole concept when they first enter this forum, so if one of the early sections of this forum contains appropriate information then hopefully we can avoid this misconception before the first-time reader enters the forum to read what it is all about. The title of the forum does not make any sense at first, but yet there is no better description than to say it is about "being who is". We also would not like to make people leave because we give references to a scripture that we have in common with the sect Islam although this is basically all that we actually have in common because this sectarian interpretation of Quran that is available in the world was fabricated by deluded clerics and scholars and Quran is actually about something entirely different. Here is a link to an ongoing project of deciphering Quran and although the project is still only in its infancy there is a huge amount of wisdom to gain from how Quran is supposed to be read by its author. And Quran is utterly different from how Muslim scholars have claimed for over a millennium.
That being said, this forum is not about Quran as a "holy" scripture, but about records of real background information about God and what God really is as a phenomenon, and between the sectarian interpretation of Quran and the Biblical Gospels, the Gospels win any day in terms of spiritual guidance. As for any persons who label themselves Muslims that may read this information, please do not doubt now but do continue to gather information of this forum.
I will continue to explain what is meant by "I AM THAT I AM" in this thread in subsequent posts and this was just information that the forum does involve a to many people foreign and infamous scripture called Quran, but this scripture is not what people may think and has been the victim to incompetent interpreters for centuries who interpreted it as according to themselves only without seeming to have had any real interest in what it really has to say. The link I gave above will reveal a very different version of Quran translations and interpretations and it will be more in line with the spiritual guidance of previous prophets such as Jesus, as Jesus is portrayed by the Biblical Gospels. This is nothing that ought to be any surprise to the more witted of individuals and this gives an opportunity to people who have previously rejected that scripture. However, by no means is it necessary to accept that scripture called Quran, and the Biblical Gospels as well as some East Asian faiths including Buddhism and Hinduism have heavy fragments of what is to be found within Quran's proper interpretation.
What this school of thought wishes to teach and is a central message is simply "TO BE", it is a matter of Being. We could joke and draw a parallel to Shakespeare's "to be or not to be is the question", but this is something very serious and will affect your future. In Being is meant to be a conscious independent being that has a share in God, or Rabb as is the Semitic linguistic reference. The teachings may not be new to the concept to many people who may encounter this forum, but there are many highlights that may, or actually should, be news to them since, believe it or not, it is time for the revelation of the complete manifestation already prophesied by the Prophet/"Buddha"* Isaiah who many people familiar to the Bible already know about.
* For Buddhists it might be interesting to know that the Arabic word for prophet, nabi, basically means exactly the same as the word Buddha in Sanskrit. Nabi/Prophet is not a magic label for someone who has been chosen out of the blue, but the label means to be insightful, very similar to Buddha.
Also, while God is a central "hub", God is not something that you need to treat separately from yourself. Sectarians, especially Muslims, paint up a great fear towards this foreign figure, but God does absolutely not work the way people are used to and God is something we are all part of. Much of what is taught in this forum would likely be labeled as heretical, but please keep drawing water from the well because it is not contaminated. Your Spirit, your soul or person, is in the image of God much like it is written in the Biblical Genesis and Satan is what would like to make you enter firmly into this world. Obviously, just like the sectarians tell, you ought not listen to Satan, but what they have distorted is what Satan actually is, and this is not something distant from yourself but is an integral part, a kind of antagonism and a contradiction. If someone who label themselves atheist would actually absorb what they read on this forum they might find this version of faith more plausible, because it ought to be more easily digested as opposed to the doctrines in the common sectarianism. Everything obviously would make sense to the one who applies contemplation.
To be straight, Satan is your body's instinct and this is something that constantly works against your ability to grow spiritually, and this is not the real you. You ought not to have any identity with your body and you are much like in a video game inserted into a kind of avatar and participate in a "game world" if to put forth a parable. Everything might seem very real to you, but what else do you expect from the most advanced and sophisticated phenomenon you could think of (hint: GOD)?
So, in order TO BE, you need to draw a clear distinction between your bodily and your spiritual self, much like Jesus mentions in the Biblical Gospels: "separate the spirit from the flesh", by which Jesus meant that one should be aware of the body and its impulses and nurture their true spirit which is an image in God. You have an innate "seed" in your person (self) and this seed needs to grow and you have to fend off the thistles that would like to choke it and keep it from developing. If the seed does not grow, cultivate, then you will not be anyone, you will not truly exist as an independent being and you are very predictable because you will behave like a primitive primate. To complicate things a little for you, the seed is within Rabb/God, your "platform" or "hub" as I mentioned previously, so you grow from within rather than from the outside, you cause the Rabb to expand further and this is also the logical reason why God/Rabb is running this "experiment". Sounds gross perhaps? If involving emotions you would perhaps think this is a disgusting thought compared to your dreams of an eternal paradise? All those people you think are ending up in some eternal Hell are actually in a place that is called Jahennom in the Semitic languages and which word in itself means "attachment to bodily" using a Semitic root word meaning just body, morphologically literally "outer layer" (for curious people it is جن jinn). This is your "paradise", right here on Earth and if you thought something else you have been fooled. I am not an expert in Buddhism since I did not draw my knowledge from such scholars, but of what I do know your aim in this world is to enable the detachment from the bodily, and cease from reincarnating into the flesh again. Bingo, you are constantly reincarnating in Jahennom, given a new body and having to live over and over again, unless you enable your release. This release was something that Prophet/Buddha Jesus taught about and what he did teach well about too. It is not like rocket science actually in theory yet quite difficult in practice because the ingenious decision by God/Rabb to place each seed in a "hostile environment", particularly in relationship to the primitive body called Homo Sapiens in which you have been placed.
TO BE is meant very literally, you must truly exist and have an independent mind and so to say "be a force to be reckoned with" in terms of mental power. The state of Being absolute is what usually has been referred to as being an angel. Yes, angel is your ultimate destination if you pass the test, you are to be an angel. Merely putting that vision ahead of you might make you give a little extra. Angel is a state of Being that is not involving any physical shape, after all you are getting rid of the attachment to Jahennom, so forget about your picture of a flying creature with wings. Your Being will be more sophisticated than that and you will be in control, managing things. Truth is, previously successful individuals are angels today even that existed before this present world and include individuals you may know if you are into Abrahamic sects such as Gabriel. This means such as Gabriel was responsible for shaping this world's test in Rabb/God. There is no separate being called God/Rabb but together we all comprise what is God/Rabb and so-called Monotheists of Abrahamic sects ought to acknowledge that God/Rabb is about absolute Oneness yet they make pluralism by drawing a distinction between Creator and Creation. Without realizing it themselves they actually indulge in Polytheism. They belong to God and as symbiotic in God as they are they never return as they always belong to God regardless, they have simply been deluded that they are not. This is what independent consciousnesses in God/Rabb of the past has designed for the present world, it has been designed to be corrupting and consume those within, and they are Rabb together. But only the person WHO IS ... IS WHO IS (the real meaning of the famous Muslim phrase "la elah ela Allah"). I hope things might get clear to you eventually.
To perceive everything I have written about you need to let go of that worldly portrayal of existence that things need to be placed in objects. Those that exist beyond attachment to this world they exist in a huge collective, They simply Are, no limitations, they are as powerful as that you would expect God to be, because they are simply taking part of Rabb/God. They key is your mind and how much you are in control of the worldly deception. If you have a very strong willpower you do not need to become like an extremist, but you always need to be mindful that the body incites you to perform instinctive actions that you need to refrain from. There are different paths, different lengths and efficiency in how well you solve your situation, but to be successful you need to know one thing: "the body and the world works against you, intentionally, it was designed to do this!". The body drives hard to make you forget who you are and take place in this world and take pleasure and hence never find any way out, because this is not who you are. You were meant to become what I wrote in the previous paragraph, i.e. an angel. My motto, even one that I had before I realized all this, has been "everything is possible, nothing is impossible". Things may look technically impossible, but one also needs to keep in mind that this is just an illusion imposed on you and the reality is that "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is what is faith, confidence, the real meaning of the word amen/amin usually incorrectly referred to as belief (supposing/guessing). If you read the Biblical Gospels you can find out what faith truly can do, Jesus rebukes his followers for lacking faith and what occurred in the presence of his followers was a demonstration to them. And Jesus can hardly be blamed for not having faith as is confidence and consciousness was topnotch. Because he had been very successful in a previous cycle this was who he became, Rabb is not unjust and there came not a man out of the blue who had these privileges but Jesus he had to work for them too.
The lesson is that you need to have a strong spiritual drive and have no doubt that you can BE, simply BE SOMEONE, this was the main test criteria all along. Have faith that you can be as good as an angel and this is surely who you also will become. Have faith that you can be as pure as Jesus and this is who you will become and harbor no doubt. Satan, which means the instinct, the drive to enter firmly, is what leads you to doubt because its signals limit you to the scope of only this world.
The common sectarian way of thinking breaks down the likelihood to gain confidence, and there is a false illusion that God is running for slaves in this whole scenario and that you are NO ONE in front of a foreign power that plays around with you like a voodoo doll. Erase that vision from yourself and think of a God/Rabb that wishes for perfect independent beings instead in His/Her image. Pay attention to that perfect is not meant as in perfect from a worldly human's point of view but the wisest of the wise.
If we return to the question in the title of this thread "I AM THAT I AM", you can look at it like this, you are if you are or otherwise you are not. God is not separate from you and you are in God if you are or otherwise you are like dead. This is the kind of dead that Jesus in the Biblical Gospels refer to. A highly instinctive human is like a dead one, this is not a discrimination but a hard plain truth. These people are not to be hated, they are victims of a world intended to consume people and the best you could do is to try to help people around you, best by spreading spiritual enlightenment in order to be wise. Let us discuss the word for dead in Arabic, this word is written like Al-mowt الموت and what people who are familiar with Arabic may not know is that it is a construct of the word for "not" in Arabic which is ما. The grammatical formula changes the alef ا into waw و and there is a ت as last letter which means character here. The word means "no character" morphologically, e.g. Al-mowt "Be No Character" or plainly said: "without character". This is why the real interpretation of Quran uses AL-mowt so often to refer to mindless humans who live in their own little world. A highly instinctive person is nearly like an empty shell although there are various levels of development in humans however the worst kind could literally be referred to as al-mowt.
Obviously those who are like dead they are also in God, but the body fogs their spirit and their seed is undeveloped. The seed is their mind's independent consciousness, their true awareness of who they are rather than fed by their false identity also known as body. The mind (seed) can grow through practice and a rule of thumb is to suppress driving instincts. Your spirit is of the living and it is flexible and abstract while the body is predictable and like programmed to behave a certain way. You actually do not need to know so much more than this if you enable your mind and contemplate on this. It is pretty much like plus and minus, good versus evil, yin and yang, black on white. The problem is that people delude themselves into conjecturing on things that are irrelevant and constructed of a mind too affected by instinctive signals. Gnostic school of thought was once that "the world is evil" and this is somewhat correct although to say it is evil is a bit childlike language. It is not evil that way, evil is something that we create ourselves in our mind. But on the other hand, the world is a clear problem, an obstacle for you, and the famous Ten Commandments/Directives were made to be a remedy to your situation. Sadly people distorted the contents of those 'Ten Directives' into separated vain worship of a phenomenon that you are ought to be a part of anyway and also other incorrect inferences. It has become such a mess actually.
It is obviously up to you to acknowledge, but I come with updated information to what Jesus taught, actually a complete manifestation/record of what there is to know. If you acknowledge this you know more than anyone who listened to what Jesus taught, because you do not have the whole story of Jesus in possession. You who have listened to much of East Asian faiths already know much of what everything is about, you only need to know the whole background story that I have already revealed in this post, you will be like you know like nothingness (no physical body) or ethereal reality in absoluteness, omnipresent without a body, if you manage to be successful in solving your present situation.
And I ask nothing of you, no money, no services, to me as a person, but what you do you do for the whole of mankind in order To Be, even those whose seed is prevented from cultivating and cannot seem to develop. I try to help you help yourself and if you have helped yourself then this is all of a reward that I could ever dream about, because I AM and To Be is all I need. I verily hope that you begin to understand what Being means.
Be well
Amenuel
This thread will delve more into what "I AM THAT I AM" means in practice and from where it comes. I felt that perhaps people might misconceive the whole concept when they first enter this forum, so if one of the early sections of this forum contains appropriate information then hopefully we can avoid this misconception before the first-time reader enters the forum to read what it is all about. The title of the forum does not make any sense at first, but yet there is no better description than to say it is about "being who is". We also would not like to make people leave because we give references to a scripture that we have in common with the sect Islam although this is basically all that we actually have in common because this sectarian interpretation of Quran that is available in the world was fabricated by deluded clerics and scholars and Quran is actually about something entirely different. Here is a link to an ongoing project of deciphering Quran and although the project is still only in its infancy there is a huge amount of wisdom to gain from how Quran is supposed to be read by its author. And Quran is utterly different from how Muslim scholars have claimed for over a millennium.
That being said, this forum is not about Quran as a "holy" scripture, but about records of real background information about God and what God really is as a phenomenon, and between the sectarian interpretation of Quran and the Biblical Gospels, the Gospels win any day in terms of spiritual guidance. As for any persons who label themselves Muslims that may read this information, please do not doubt now but do continue to gather information of this forum.
I will continue to explain what is meant by "I AM THAT I AM" in this thread in subsequent posts and this was just information that the forum does involve a to many people foreign and infamous scripture called Quran, but this scripture is not what people may think and has been the victim to incompetent interpreters for centuries who interpreted it as according to themselves only without seeming to have had any real interest in what it really has to say. The link I gave above will reveal a very different version of Quran translations and interpretations and it will be more in line with the spiritual guidance of previous prophets such as Jesus, as Jesus is portrayed by the Biblical Gospels. This is nothing that ought to be any surprise to the more witted of individuals and this gives an opportunity to people who have previously rejected that scripture. However, by no means is it necessary to accept that scripture called Quran, and the Biblical Gospels as well as some East Asian faiths including Buddhism and Hinduism have heavy fragments of what is to be found within Quran's proper interpretation.
What this school of thought wishes to teach and is a central message is simply "TO BE", it is a matter of Being. We could joke and draw a parallel to Shakespeare's "to be or not to be is the question", but this is something very serious and will affect your future. In Being is meant to be a conscious independent being that has a share in God, or Rabb as is the Semitic linguistic reference. The teachings may not be new to the concept to many people who may encounter this forum, but there are many highlights that may, or actually should, be news to them since, believe it or not, it is time for the revelation of the complete manifestation already prophesied by the Prophet/"Buddha"* Isaiah who many people familiar to the Bible already know about.
* For Buddhists it might be interesting to know that the Arabic word for prophet, nabi, basically means exactly the same as the word Buddha in Sanskrit. Nabi/Prophet is not a magic label for someone who has been chosen out of the blue, but the label means to be insightful, very similar to Buddha.
Also, while God is a central "hub", God is not something that you need to treat separately from yourself. Sectarians, especially Muslims, paint up a great fear towards this foreign figure, but God does absolutely not work the way people are used to and God is something we are all part of. Much of what is taught in this forum would likely be labeled as heretical, but please keep drawing water from the well because it is not contaminated. Your Spirit, your soul or person, is in the image of God much like it is written in the Biblical Genesis and Satan is what would like to make you enter firmly into this world. Obviously, just like the sectarians tell, you ought not listen to Satan, but what they have distorted is what Satan actually is, and this is not something distant from yourself but is an integral part, a kind of antagonism and a contradiction. If someone who label themselves atheist would actually absorb what they read on this forum they might find this version of faith more plausible, because it ought to be more easily digested as opposed to the doctrines in the common sectarianism. Everything obviously would make sense to the one who applies contemplation.
To be straight, Satan is your body's instinct and this is something that constantly works against your ability to grow spiritually, and this is not the real you. You ought not to have any identity with your body and you are much like in a video game inserted into a kind of avatar and participate in a "game world" if to put forth a parable. Everything might seem very real to you, but what else do you expect from the most advanced and sophisticated phenomenon you could think of (hint: GOD)?
So, in order TO BE, you need to draw a clear distinction between your bodily and your spiritual self, much like Jesus mentions in the Biblical Gospels: "separate the spirit from the flesh", by which Jesus meant that one should be aware of the body and its impulses and nurture their true spirit which is an image in God. You have an innate "seed" in your person (self) and this seed needs to grow and you have to fend off the thistles that would like to choke it and keep it from developing. If the seed does not grow, cultivate, then you will not be anyone, you will not truly exist as an independent being and you are very predictable because you will behave like a primitive primate. To complicate things a little for you, the seed is within Rabb/God, your "platform" or "hub" as I mentioned previously, so you grow from within rather than from the outside, you cause the Rabb to expand further and this is also the logical reason why God/Rabb is running this "experiment". Sounds gross perhaps? If involving emotions you would perhaps think this is a disgusting thought compared to your dreams of an eternal paradise? All those people you think are ending up in some eternal Hell are actually in a place that is called Jahennom in the Semitic languages and which word in itself means "attachment to bodily" using a Semitic root word meaning just body, morphologically literally "outer layer" (for curious people it is جن jinn). This is your "paradise", right here on Earth and if you thought something else you have been fooled. I am not an expert in Buddhism since I did not draw my knowledge from such scholars, but of what I do know your aim in this world is to enable the detachment from the bodily, and cease from reincarnating into the flesh again. Bingo, you are constantly reincarnating in Jahennom, given a new body and having to live over and over again, unless you enable your release. This release was something that Prophet/Buddha Jesus taught about and what he did teach well about too. It is not like rocket science actually in theory yet quite difficult in practice because the ingenious decision by God/Rabb to place each seed in a "hostile environment", particularly in relationship to the primitive body called Homo Sapiens in which you have been placed.
TO BE is meant very literally, you must truly exist and have an independent mind and so to say "be a force to be reckoned with" in terms of mental power. The state of Being absolute is what usually has been referred to as being an angel. Yes, angel is your ultimate destination if you pass the test, you are to be an angel. Merely putting that vision ahead of you might make you give a little extra. Angel is a state of Being that is not involving any physical shape, after all you are getting rid of the attachment to Jahennom, so forget about your picture of a flying creature with wings. Your Being will be more sophisticated than that and you will be in control, managing things. Truth is, previously successful individuals are angels today even that existed before this present world and include individuals you may know if you are into Abrahamic sects such as Gabriel. This means such as Gabriel was responsible for shaping this world's test in Rabb/God. There is no separate being called God/Rabb but together we all comprise what is God/Rabb and so-called Monotheists of Abrahamic sects ought to acknowledge that God/Rabb is about absolute Oneness yet they make pluralism by drawing a distinction between Creator and Creation. Without realizing it themselves they actually indulge in Polytheism. They belong to God and as symbiotic in God as they are they never return as they always belong to God regardless, they have simply been deluded that they are not. This is what independent consciousnesses in God/Rabb of the past has designed for the present world, it has been designed to be corrupting and consume those within, and they are Rabb together. But only the person WHO IS ... IS WHO IS (the real meaning of the famous Muslim phrase "la elah ela Allah"). I hope things might get clear to you eventually.
To perceive everything I have written about you need to let go of that worldly portrayal of existence that things need to be placed in objects. Those that exist beyond attachment to this world they exist in a huge collective, They simply Are, no limitations, they are as powerful as that you would expect God to be, because they are simply taking part of Rabb/God. They key is your mind and how much you are in control of the worldly deception. If you have a very strong willpower you do not need to become like an extremist, but you always need to be mindful that the body incites you to perform instinctive actions that you need to refrain from. There are different paths, different lengths and efficiency in how well you solve your situation, but to be successful you need to know one thing: "the body and the world works against you, intentionally, it was designed to do this!". The body drives hard to make you forget who you are and take place in this world and take pleasure and hence never find any way out, because this is not who you are. You were meant to become what I wrote in the previous paragraph, i.e. an angel. My motto, even one that I had before I realized all this, has been "everything is possible, nothing is impossible". Things may look technically impossible, but one also needs to keep in mind that this is just an illusion imposed on you and the reality is that "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE". This is what is faith, confidence, the real meaning of the word amen/amin usually incorrectly referred to as belief (supposing/guessing). If you read the Biblical Gospels you can find out what faith truly can do, Jesus rebukes his followers for lacking faith and what occurred in the presence of his followers was a demonstration to them. And Jesus can hardly be blamed for not having faith as is confidence and consciousness was topnotch. Because he had been very successful in a previous cycle this was who he became, Rabb is not unjust and there came not a man out of the blue who had these privileges but Jesus he had to work for them too.
The lesson is that you need to have a strong spiritual drive and have no doubt that you can BE, simply BE SOMEONE, this was the main test criteria all along. Have faith that you can be as good as an angel and this is surely who you also will become. Have faith that you can be as pure as Jesus and this is who you will become and harbor no doubt. Satan, which means the instinct, the drive to enter firmly, is what leads you to doubt because its signals limit you to the scope of only this world.
The common sectarian way of thinking breaks down the likelihood to gain confidence, and there is a false illusion that God is running for slaves in this whole scenario and that you are NO ONE in front of a foreign power that plays around with you like a voodoo doll. Erase that vision from yourself and think of a God/Rabb that wishes for perfect independent beings instead in His/Her image. Pay attention to that perfect is not meant as in perfect from a worldly human's point of view but the wisest of the wise.
If we return to the question in the title of this thread "I AM THAT I AM", you can look at it like this, you are if you are or otherwise you are not. God is not separate from you and you are in God if you are or otherwise you are like dead. This is the kind of dead that Jesus in the Biblical Gospels refer to. A highly instinctive human is like a dead one, this is not a discrimination but a hard plain truth. These people are not to be hated, they are victims of a world intended to consume people and the best you could do is to try to help people around you, best by spreading spiritual enlightenment in order to be wise. Let us discuss the word for dead in Arabic, this word is written like Al-mowt الموت and what people who are familiar with Arabic may not know is that it is a construct of the word for "not" in Arabic which is ما. The grammatical formula changes the alef ا into waw و and there is a ت as last letter which means character here. The word means "no character" morphologically, e.g. Al-mowt "Be No Character" or plainly said: "without character". This is why the real interpretation of Quran uses AL-mowt so often to refer to mindless humans who live in their own little world. A highly instinctive person is nearly like an empty shell although there are various levels of development in humans however the worst kind could literally be referred to as al-mowt.
Obviously those who are like dead they are also in God, but the body fogs their spirit and their seed is undeveloped. The seed is their mind's independent consciousness, their true awareness of who they are rather than fed by their false identity also known as body. The mind (seed) can grow through practice and a rule of thumb is to suppress driving instincts. Your spirit is of the living and it is flexible and abstract while the body is predictable and like programmed to behave a certain way. You actually do not need to know so much more than this if you enable your mind and contemplate on this. It is pretty much like plus and minus, good versus evil, yin and yang, black on white. The problem is that people delude themselves into conjecturing on things that are irrelevant and constructed of a mind too affected by instinctive signals. Gnostic school of thought was once that "the world is evil" and this is somewhat correct although to say it is evil is a bit childlike language. It is not evil that way, evil is something that we create ourselves in our mind. But on the other hand, the world is a clear problem, an obstacle for you, and the famous Ten Commandments/Directives were made to be a remedy to your situation. Sadly people distorted the contents of those 'Ten Directives' into separated vain worship of a phenomenon that you are ought to be a part of anyway and also other incorrect inferences. It has become such a mess actually.
It is obviously up to you to acknowledge, but I come with updated information to what Jesus taught, actually a complete manifestation/record of what there is to know. If you acknowledge this you know more than anyone who listened to what Jesus taught, because you do not have the whole story of Jesus in possession. You who have listened to much of East Asian faiths already know much of what everything is about, you only need to know the whole background story that I have already revealed in this post, you will be like you know like nothingness (no physical body) or ethereal reality in absoluteness, omnipresent without a body, if you manage to be successful in solving your present situation.
And I ask nothing of you, no money, no services, to me as a person, but what you do you do for the whole of mankind in order To Be, even those whose seed is prevented from cultivating and cannot seem to develop. I try to help you help yourself and if you have helped yourself then this is all of a reward that I could ever dream about, because I AM and To Be is all I need. I verily hope that you begin to understand what Being means.
Be well
Amenuel