Post by Immanuel on Jul 28, 2015 4:17:47 GMT
Hail to you,
My name is Emanuel and I am... a spiritual instructor and unaffiliated with religions, both previously and currently a seeker of truth, who "happened to" transcend into knowledge and wisdom by the grace of the Sustainer (GOD) because I was witted enough to question everything dubious instead of blindly accepting to be a sheep and you could see me as the stray sheep instead of the 99 others who continue to graze the meadow like they always have (I suppose everyone understands that parable).
Without saying too much without knowing for certain what I know, I can say that I over some years grew increasingly interested in the spiritual from having been a Sleeper and it has turned into revelation of something, backed up by someone's visions, of the fact that world religions are not presenting the Sustainer's (GOD's) faith properly, at all. There are only fragments of truth here and there.
I had read through the so-called 'Christian Bible' several times when I about five years ago put my eyes in the scripture called Quran for the first time, translation only back then, and I became deluded like many others by its passages, believing it to be the word of GOD which is also is obviously in the original Arabic language. The problem is only that some people fabricated a language on top of another and then called that authentic and its interpretation has been taken as dogma for over a millennium. Within 2-3 years I grew increasingly suspicious whether the current interpretations were really true because the sect 'Islam' does not represent the divine that I know and the deity appears very hateful and within some additional year I understood that Quran has been interpreted and twisted by a clergy with Pagan minds. The word Pagan means that you are fleshly/worldly and is not necessarily a curse word or to belong to a polytheistic religion even if disinformation has turned it that way even including some dictionary definitions, and the very religious rites and rituals of that sect are even against the 'Ten Commandments' and detrimental for people. Buddhists and Hinduists, please continue to read despite seeing doctrinal information.
About two years ago I began to take the matter into my own hands and decided to start deciphering Quran independent of other sources as a way of reducing the impact of bias, turning my zero knowledge of Semitic languages into my advantage and I used the methodology of learning the language Arabic like a child even though I am in my 30's so it is not as simple, but I could at least mix it with my wisdom of age and being a child learning the corrupted Arabic would anyway have been to no avail.
Before readers of other faith systems such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism or Judaism turn away from continuing to read my posts and this forum by seeing this as a "propagandist Islamic site" I must proclaim that this site has no affiliation with the sect 'Islam' per se and Quran was mainly a way of correspondence and a prophecy waiting for someone to be able to interpret it. There are no religions, only a concept or affinity of living to reach perfection in the Sustainer and the Sustainer in the proper interpretation of this scripture called Quran affirms of two paths directly as I have deciphered; one is the typical Buddhist and Hinduist ways which is to seek absorption in the void (Buddism) or completion (Raham/Brahman) in the Sustainer (Hinduism), and the other is 'Being like' (Be As It) which is to imitate the Sustainer's qualities and which was true for the original interpretation of the Abrahamic faith even if this knowledge has been twisted by the clergy over the centuries. I can ask Christians why Jesus did tell that "I am in the Father and the Father in me", but he also told "You will all be children of the GOD".
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Footnote: "Peacemakers" stems from the word 'Islam' which means 'sound'. The translation here is probably not perfect. This phrase is supposed to mean those who carry the qualities of the Sustainer.
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 5:45 that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the
bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
Christians have to admit that the Christian dogma ignores black on white what their own scripture says and if you are a child it means obviously you are a son or daughter. It means if you do like Jesus could will also be a "Son of GOD". It has all to do with the 'I AM THAT I AM' concept that this forum teaches. Buddhists and Hinduists basically do things right already, it is only that they may have to reconsider all the meaningless rites and rituals they are potentially doing, and for what cause is their abstention and the lore behind it other than the doctrinal absorption/completion.
Everyone please continue to read.
You see that I appeal with this to anyone no matter religious background. Quran is supposed to be a message to all mankind and not just a specific sort who worship some deity called Allah in vain. Let me explain the word 'allah':
The word allah carries deep misconception; it is actually like an adverb meaning something like 'being like' alone and its Semitic root is Alif-Lam-Lam ا ل ل which means 'near/such as' and Arabic's famous AL article uses the same root. Allah's added suffix 'ha' ه is marking third person singular. Sometimes in Quran the plural form 'hem' هم is also used, and اللهم (Allahem) means 'Being As Them' rather than the singular الله 'Being As It'. Worth noticing is that from a grammatical perspective, if adding a hem هم to allah it means that it would be written اللههم in proper grammar if to refer to "their GOD" in a traditional sense. That is not all but to grammatically have the word to be a singular object or noun with an AL article, the word would require the Arabic suffix 'teh' ة, i.e. Allateh اللة, but the "Islamic Scholars" ignore that too. Furthermore, to have a proper noun conform with Arabic grammar rules it cannot write the AL article together with the word 'lah' (if that would even theoretically mean god in Arabic) but it must be written AL Lah, i.e. ال له and you can see that with Pharaoh used in Quran more than once Al Firun ال فرعون. The AL is never written together with his name. It is obvious, but no one ever says O Allah "ya Allah" in Quran either but "ya Rabb" O Rabb (Sustainer) is used several times. Everything about the traditional use of the word allah contradicts itself.
'Rabb' رب (which I translate as Sustainer) is the only word used to refer to "GOD" as a spirit name and it does not translate well into 'god' either but more like 'Foundation With', i.e. something that is upholding something to keep it working much like a platform. Existence itself as we know it is the 'Rabb'. The "Rabb' is the existence itself. This is why I care to refer to the faith as "Mono-Pantheism". No matter where you turn there is "GOD", even if you "turn inwards".
Now to fundamental doctrinal information. Please read everyone from any faith background.
It may come as a shock to some people and to people like Buddhists/Hinduists it may not, but the physical visual world is not the real world but it is an illusion put in place by the Sustainer to simply be a kind of contradiction of a "test environment" and intended to deceive from the very beginning. Human souls are placed in these bodies we possess and they are not part of the real we. We actually consist of two parts while confined in them; a body and a spirit, and the spirit has the same potential qualities as the Sustainer and it grows under delusion. The body clouds the perception of our true selves with its primate nature and the successful must avoid the instinctive drive (which is called Satan/Shaytaan in the Semitic languages). One can consider it sown seeds in the soil and then the cultivation must be tended carefully and protected from the environment. The keepers are ourselves, the potential and growing persons. A parable in the real interpretation of Quran says that the successful "did not have all their roots in this world". The point is; this is why the forum header begins to say: "Gnostic-style faith", and the plain truth is that a person to be most successful they have to abstain from the world, much like Buddhists and Hinduist already do, and seek their Spirit. The man called Jesus said something wise: "Separate the spirit from the flesh". Yes, behind the illusion induced by the Christian clergy, the Christ's faith is actually very Gnostic.
I am mixing information from all your religious backgrounds for you to see, including busting the Muslim myth of a deity called Allah. I sincerely hope that your pride will not let you turn away but realize I am onto something. A main point is that I intend to remove that delusion of a separate deity and rather prove to you that the real Supreme Intelligence is actually Mono-Pantheistic, the human as distinctly separate being Hail to you,
Everyone please continue to read.
For Abrahamic faiths, please read this about the 'Ten Commandments':
The real interpretation of Quran says that the first two commandments were lied about and the third strengthened. What are the first three commandments anyway?
The first uses these words "Abd = keep to inseparably/remain attached allah = be as (it) Rabb = Sustainer ahad = [Be] united/one". What does it really confirm? Think about 'I AM THAT I AM'. The translation with Jesus in the Gospels uses 'love' and while this is not directly wrong it might make people to misinterpret the implication. The point is that "love" here means "cling onto/adhere to/attach" just like in the "First Commandment" and is to be understood in conjunction with Jesus' "I am in the Father and the Father in me". "GOD" is probably a form of allah (Yaweh), i.e. Being and Lord derived from Rabb.
Matthew 22:37 He said to him, "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your
soul, and with all your mind.
The second said: "Do not take an image from either Heaven (abstract) or Earth (physical) and worship it". This commandment is very explicit. DO NOT take any image of whatsoever and worship it including an image of a deity called Allah or GOD, and its implicit meaning is that you should not consider the Sustainer separate but rather an integral part of you as per the direction of the first commandment. The Rabbis of Judaism originally knew this and this is why they conjectured to be almost obsessed with no images whatsoever. The point is it did not include images in that way but rather to not portray a separate image of the Sustainer aside the existence.
The third commandment was something like "no vain talk" and this was abused to make no one ever allowed to question a thing by the clergymen and scholars, reinforcing their grip over people. Ironically there was plenty of vain talk from their side.
The conclusion is that a person has no use of worshiping a deity at all in their faith because the one who has awakened understands that the Sustainer is not separate but our Spirit is in symbiosis with it. Everything in the list of 'Ten Commandments' are detrimental practices and not just zealous laws and how to really judge based on 'no jealousy' which is the tenth commandment? To worship a deity in vain is simply a huge distraction and a dubious practice. The best and only way to worship "GOD" is to get attuned and resemble its qualities to become the perfect Spirit that was part of the test from the start. One quality of the Sustainer is that it has no needs whatsoever and it does not have instincts while the deluding body you possess has. It is a hint. Buddhists already do this to find 'nothingness' in their religion, but it is actually all but nothingness you are looking for. You seek completion (al-rahman).
Be well
My name is Emanuel and I am... a spiritual instructor and unaffiliated with religions, both previously and currently a seeker of truth, who "happened to" transcend into knowledge and wisdom by the grace of the Sustainer (GOD) because I was witted enough to question everything dubious instead of blindly accepting to be a sheep and you could see me as the stray sheep instead of the 99 others who continue to graze the meadow like they always have (I suppose everyone understands that parable).
Without saying too much without knowing for certain what I know, I can say that I over some years grew increasingly interested in the spiritual from having been a Sleeper and it has turned into revelation of something, backed up by someone's visions, of the fact that world religions are not presenting the Sustainer's (GOD's) faith properly, at all. There are only fragments of truth here and there.
I had read through the so-called 'Christian Bible' several times when I about five years ago put my eyes in the scripture called Quran for the first time, translation only back then, and I became deluded like many others by its passages, believing it to be the word of GOD which is also is obviously in the original Arabic language. The problem is only that some people fabricated a language on top of another and then called that authentic and its interpretation has been taken as dogma for over a millennium. Within 2-3 years I grew increasingly suspicious whether the current interpretations were really true because the sect 'Islam' does not represent the divine that I know and the deity appears very hateful and within some additional year I understood that Quran has been interpreted and twisted by a clergy with Pagan minds. The word Pagan means that you are fleshly/worldly and is not necessarily a curse word or to belong to a polytheistic religion even if disinformation has turned it that way even including some dictionary definitions, and the very religious rites and rituals of that sect are even against the 'Ten Commandments' and detrimental for people. Buddhists and Hinduists, please continue to read despite seeing doctrinal information.
About two years ago I began to take the matter into my own hands and decided to start deciphering Quran independent of other sources as a way of reducing the impact of bias, turning my zero knowledge of Semitic languages into my advantage and I used the methodology of learning the language Arabic like a child even though I am in my 30's so it is not as simple, but I could at least mix it with my wisdom of age and being a child learning the corrupted Arabic would anyway have been to no avail.
Before readers of other faith systems such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism or Judaism turn away from continuing to read my posts and this forum by seeing this as a "propagandist Islamic site" I must proclaim that this site has no affiliation with the sect 'Islam' per se and Quran was mainly a way of correspondence and a prophecy waiting for someone to be able to interpret it. There are no religions, only a concept or affinity of living to reach perfection in the Sustainer and the Sustainer in the proper interpretation of this scripture called Quran affirms of two paths directly as I have deciphered; one is the typical Buddhist and Hinduist ways which is to seek absorption in the void (Buddism) or completion (Raham/Brahman) in the Sustainer (Hinduism), and the other is 'Being like' (Be As It) which is to imitate the Sustainer's qualities and which was true for the original interpretation of the Abrahamic faith even if this knowledge has been twisted by the clergy over the centuries. I can ask Christians why Jesus did tell that "I am in the Father and the Father in me", but he also told "You will all be children of the GOD".
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Footnote: "Peacemakers" stems from the word 'Islam' which means 'sound'. The translation here is probably not perfect. This phrase is supposed to mean those who carry the qualities of the Sustainer.
Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 5:45 that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the
bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
Christians have to admit that the Christian dogma ignores black on white what their own scripture says and if you are a child it means obviously you are a son or daughter. It means if you do like Jesus could will also be a "Son of GOD". It has all to do with the 'I AM THAT I AM' concept that this forum teaches. Buddhists and Hinduists basically do things right already, it is only that they may have to reconsider all the meaningless rites and rituals they are potentially doing, and for what cause is their abstention and the lore behind it other than the doctrinal absorption/completion.
Everyone please continue to read.
You see that I appeal with this to anyone no matter religious background. Quran is supposed to be a message to all mankind and not just a specific sort who worship some deity called Allah in vain. Let me explain the word 'allah':
The word allah carries deep misconception; it is actually like an adverb meaning something like 'being like' alone and its Semitic root is Alif-Lam-Lam ا ل ل which means 'near/such as' and Arabic's famous AL article uses the same root. Allah's added suffix 'ha' ه is marking third person singular. Sometimes in Quran the plural form 'hem' هم is also used, and اللهم (Allahem) means 'Being As Them' rather than the singular الله 'Being As It'. Worth noticing is that from a grammatical perspective, if adding a hem هم to allah it means that it would be written اللههم in proper grammar if to refer to "their GOD" in a traditional sense. That is not all but to grammatically have the word to be a singular object or noun with an AL article, the word would require the Arabic suffix 'teh' ة, i.e. Allateh اللة, but the "Islamic Scholars" ignore that too. Furthermore, to have a proper noun conform with Arabic grammar rules it cannot write the AL article together with the word 'lah' (if that would even theoretically mean god in Arabic) but it must be written AL Lah, i.e. ال له and you can see that with Pharaoh used in Quran more than once Al Firun ال فرعون. The AL is never written together with his name. It is obvious, but no one ever says O Allah "ya Allah" in Quran either but "ya Rabb" O Rabb (Sustainer) is used several times. Everything about the traditional use of the word allah contradicts itself.
'Rabb' رب (which I translate as Sustainer) is the only word used to refer to "GOD" as a spirit name and it does not translate well into 'god' either but more like 'Foundation With', i.e. something that is upholding something to keep it working much like a platform. Existence itself as we know it is the 'Rabb'. The "Rabb' is the existence itself. This is why I care to refer to the faith as "Mono-Pantheism". No matter where you turn there is "GOD", even if you "turn inwards".
Now to fundamental doctrinal information. Please read everyone from any faith background.
It may come as a shock to some people and to people like Buddhists/Hinduists it may not, but the physical visual world is not the real world but it is an illusion put in place by the Sustainer to simply be a kind of contradiction of a "test environment" and intended to deceive from the very beginning. Human souls are placed in these bodies we possess and they are not part of the real we. We actually consist of two parts while confined in them; a body and a spirit, and the spirit has the same potential qualities as the Sustainer and it grows under delusion. The body clouds the perception of our true selves with its primate nature and the successful must avoid the instinctive drive (which is called Satan/Shaytaan in the Semitic languages). One can consider it sown seeds in the soil and then the cultivation must be tended carefully and protected from the environment. The keepers are ourselves, the potential and growing persons. A parable in the real interpretation of Quran says that the successful "did not have all their roots in this world". The point is; this is why the forum header begins to say: "Gnostic-style faith", and the plain truth is that a person to be most successful they have to abstain from the world, much like Buddhists and Hinduist already do, and seek their Spirit. The man called Jesus said something wise: "Separate the spirit from the flesh". Yes, behind the illusion induced by the Christian clergy, the Christ's faith is actually very Gnostic.
I am mixing information from all your religious backgrounds for you to see, including busting the Muslim myth of a deity called Allah. I sincerely hope that your pride will not let you turn away but realize I am onto something. A main point is that I intend to remove that delusion of a separate deity and rather prove to you that the real Supreme Intelligence is actually Mono-Pantheistic, the human as distinctly separate being Hail to you,
Everyone please continue to read.
For Abrahamic faiths, please read this about the 'Ten Commandments':
The real interpretation of Quran says that the first two commandments were lied about and the third strengthened. What are the first three commandments anyway?
The first uses these words "Abd = keep to inseparably/remain attached allah = be as (it) Rabb = Sustainer ahad = [Be] united/one". What does it really confirm? Think about 'I AM THAT I AM'. The translation with Jesus in the Gospels uses 'love' and while this is not directly wrong it might make people to misinterpret the implication. The point is that "love" here means "cling onto/adhere to/attach" just like in the "First Commandment" and is to be understood in conjunction with Jesus' "I am in the Father and the Father in me". "GOD" is probably a form of allah (Yaweh), i.e. Being and Lord derived from Rabb.
Matthew 22:37 He said to him, "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your
soul, and with all your mind.
The second said: "Do not take an image from either Heaven (abstract) or Earth (physical) and worship it". This commandment is very explicit. DO NOT take any image of whatsoever and worship it including an image of a deity called Allah or GOD, and its implicit meaning is that you should not consider the Sustainer separate but rather an integral part of you as per the direction of the first commandment. The Rabbis of Judaism originally knew this and this is why they conjectured to be almost obsessed with no images whatsoever. The point is it did not include images in that way but rather to not portray a separate image of the Sustainer aside the existence.
The third commandment was something like "no vain talk" and this was abused to make no one ever allowed to question a thing by the clergymen and scholars, reinforcing their grip over people. Ironically there was plenty of vain talk from their side.
The conclusion is that a person has no use of worshiping a deity at all in their faith because the one who has awakened understands that the Sustainer is not separate but our Spirit is in symbiosis with it. Everything in the list of 'Ten Commandments' are detrimental practices and not just zealous laws and how to really judge based on 'no jealousy' which is the tenth commandment? To worship a deity in vain is simply a huge distraction and a dubious practice. The best and only way to worship "GOD" is to get attuned and resemble its qualities to become the perfect Spirit that was part of the test from the start. One quality of the Sustainer is that it has no needs whatsoever and it does not have instincts while the deluding body you possess has. It is a hint. Buddhists already do this to find 'nothingness' in their religion, but it is actually all but nothingness you are looking for. You seek completion (al-rahman).
Be well