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Post by Wanderer on May 20, 2018 12:56:02 GMT
Logically assuming, would one share the same name along different bodily embodiemtns on earth? Or one could have been named James Ackler in perivous life and have name of Alexander Johnsson in present life?
Than if the latter is true, what is the name of the real person behind those humanly embodiemnts? Or is there no reason for having a name in the Kingdom of Heaven, where one is connected to all, likewise Iasus said "I am in the father, and the father is in me"
Because as to my logic the most important reason humans share names and surnames on this earth is to distinguish each other.
However, if eveyrhting is known in the sight of heavens and there is nothing that is unknown in the heaven and the being is one with heaven. Doesnt that imply that there is no need to have a name, beacuse there is no need to distinguish?
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Post by Immanuel on May 21, 2018 17:36:34 GMT
Logically assuming, would one share the same name along different bodily embodiemtns on earth? Or one could have been named James Ackler in perivous life and have name of Alexander Johnsson in present life? Than if the latter is true, what is the name of the real person behind those humanly embodiemnts? Or is there no reason for having a name in the Kingdom of Heaven, where one is connected to all, likewise Iasus said "I am in the father, and the father is in me" Because as to my logic the most important reason humans share names and surnames on this earth is to distinguish each other. However, if eveyrhting is known in the sight of heavens and there is nothing that is unknown in the heaven and the being is one with heaven. Doesnt that imply that there is no need to have a name, beacuse there is no need to distinguish? Names are used only for identification purposes, although in Semitic tradition (which the name of Eysua belongs to) the name generally characterizes some special trait of the person and including what the person is/was supposed to accomplish. Eysua's name is actually a modified version of the name of Muse. The key is the وس (Waw Seen) in Muse's name and يس (Ya Seen) is a grammatical inflection of it and the root word itself means "model/imitation/pattern". The عيس (Ayn Ye Seen) means he gained the model. It is a secret signal language, intended for truly intelligent people, it plays with the language's Innate Letter Meanings or ILM as I abbreviate it. Eysua is spelled عيسى Muse is spelled موسى The root is Alif-Siin-Waw. If you are not born spiritually you have no identity with Elahem and are dead, and so you get no name until you make a name for yourself. It is what Eysua sarcastically referred to when he told a person that "let the dead bury their dead and come with me". Names humans give each other have no meaning unless one is alive, and then the name should match some characteristic of their soul. My name is Amenuel and it means "who is bound to understand" or "such who understands". It was a name given to me as a secondary first name, but I have come to identify myself by it. Between you and me, Elahem made my parents choose Amenuel for me and that according to the prophecy of Isaiah, and then let me get through my life understanding I am he of whom it was prophesied, while my primary first name has been Henrik. To truly be named/attributed Amenuel then one has to be with understanding, otherwise it has no meaning.
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Post by Wanderer on May 21, 2018 17:49:04 GMT
Thank for the insight, as christians say "God indeed works in mysterious ways".
However, as you said esrlier Amenuel, the name Amenuel was given as your second name already by your parents and it happened to also be your spirit name. However, how does one get to know the real name of itself, for example in the case of the peoples? Thank you in advance. And does one become alive by upholding to the 10 commandemnts?
What about appearance? Because I would say if I had the choice I would rather look beauitful and pure (angelic), opposite to looking animalistic. Im not wanting to look beuatful in order to have sex or anything in this sorts. However, I just like to appreacite beauty and I already can see the Gods creativty and sense of beauty that God created in this world and in the different species inhabiting this world. Would the "wanting" of looking beauitful and progressed and only in the mind but also my ohysical manifiestion in this physical world, would it hinder my growth as being?
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Post by Wanderer on May 21, 2018 17:56:46 GMT
Amenuel, What about the name Suleyman or Solomon what does it mein in the semetic tradition?
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Post by Immanuel on May 22, 2018 5:42:42 GMT
Thank for the insight, as christians say "God indeed works in mysterious ways". However, as you said esrlier Amenuel, the name Amenuel was given as your second name already by your parents and it happened to also be your spirit name. However, how does one get to know the real name of itself, for example in the case of the peoples? Thank you in advance. And does one become alive by upholding to the 10 commandemnts? What about appearance? Because I would say if I had the choice I would rather look beauitful and pure (angelic), opposite to looking animalistic. Im not wanting to look beuatful in order to have sex or anything in this sorts. However, I just like to appreacite beauty and I already can see the Gods creativty and sense of beauty that God created in this world and in the different species inhabiting this world. Would the "wanting" of looking beauitful and progressed and only in the mind but also my ohysical manifiestion in this physical world, would it hinder my growth as being? In my case, the name Amenuel was embedded in Isaiah and I drew the conclusion I was named secondarily as that in order to progress to discover it is my name of fate, after finding out which makes me Amenuel by attribute. Otherwise, names are just identification, but according to the tradition of Shem (Semitic) it is something which characterizes you. As you wrote, Elahem works in mysterious ways and you may already carry a name your parents subconsciously gave you and which actually Elahem gave you through them.
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Post by Immanuel on May 22, 2018 7:01:18 GMT
One becomes alive by upholding the 10 "commandments" (or aids as they can be called) and for the right purpose and reason, and it helps knowing how they should read instead of the Pagan-influenced ones one may know from the Bible for example. I have written about them multiple times, but here they are again:
1. Adhere to being (some)one/unique 2. Be not attached to stereotypes (imitations) 3. Do not take the call/word to be being in vain 4. Contemplate frequently 5. Care for your neighbor as yourself 6. Do not dominate 7. Do not exploit 8. Do not perform redundant sex 9. Do not bend the truth 10. Do not covet your neighbor's... things, social status etc
All of those are related to what the instinct drives one to.
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Post by Immanuel on May 22, 2018 7:37:53 GMT
If you wish to look beautiful it means you have a lurking instinctive impulse and it is wise to rethink about it. You compare yourself to others and it is also adhering to established stereotypes.
You need to think about for what purpose you want to be beautiful. Is it that others regard you as attractive (not necessarily sexually). The body is just a platform in which you temporarily reside and the same body only remains with you for some decades and then it dies.
How the body looks matters to 0% for your mental development.
And "angels" have no corporeal form, they are ethereal, although they might manifest themselves in any manner they wish. Generally they appear as a bright artificial-looking light if present manifestly, because they might cause some spatial anomaly and it is their raw form. The light is how we experience it, it is the visual phenomenon of this mere force.
On the other hand, it is not explicitly disallowed to decorate oneself and surroundings, but the underlying reason must be taken into consideration and it must not be instinctively propelled for the reasons mentioned in the decree of Muse (the "Commandments"), such as adhering to stereotypes, group identity, covet what your neighbor has or enhance the sex appeal and status. Oftentimes when people do things like dress themselves it is instinctively driven. The usual reasons are to complement the level of beauty or to show social status, based on stereotypes.
It is better that the mind looks beautiful than that the body does, and the mind you will always have with you, and if you do not cultivate it well then it will be in disarray.
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Post by Immanuel on May 22, 2018 7:47:43 GMT
Amenuel, What about the name Suleyman or Solomon what does it mein in the semetic tradition? That name is based on the semi-root سلم (Selam) which connotes wholesomeness and soundness which in its turn is based on the derivative root سلو Selawa which means peacefulness, tranquility and serenity or even orderliness. His name means "the sound one". Definitions for the word in English can be healthy, pristine, wholesome and sound. Because of how much the being of man circulates around sanity, sanity is a good measurement for what is soundness/healthiness in a person.
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Post by Wanderer on May 22, 2018 13:04:05 GMT
Amenuel, thank you sincerely for your time and the elaborate and informative information You shared.
About the topic of beauty. It is for certain that certain things in this world spark the sense of beauty/attraction in humans and some spark the sense of ugliness/disgust. However, is it most probably so because the human-animal is programmed to be attracted to certain traits/shapes and thus it sees these things/persons as beautiful and more "perfect" so to speak? Most people would consider a Ferrari an aesthetically pleasing piece of machinery and at the same time, most people would agree when seeing a very attractive/beautiful person to be an attractive/beautiful. It is fascinating to me, because where does this knowledge/model/archetype of the perfect physical shape come from? The answer must be in the fact that when God was designing this matter world and the human-mater bodies inhabiting it, it was designed to obey certain rules. In a sense, the same phenomena as You speak about the body of a human being a machinery that has predetermined sets of action, no better than a computer in which a certain input is given and an exact same output is given back. However, by this logic doesn't that mean that God when creating/designing this world could have made it so that the things humans find ugly/disgusting would have had a 180 degrees opposite effect and vice-versa? So things that humans find right now to be beautiful would have had another effect on the humans, finding it ugly for example.
So it is totally under the control of God to determine what do humans find attractive/beautiful and what-what do the humans find ugly/repulsive. Because there have been studies that show that attractive faces and the advantage of having an attractive face go far beyond sexual acts. For example, there is a study where it is shown that human babies tend to be attracted to more aesthetically pleasing faces, in other words, more beautiful/harmonic faces. Or the fact that men tend to respect more the males with bigger jaws and chins/height or any other masculine/androgenic/dominant trait. While a man of short stature/with small childish facial dimensions/chin size etc. , is seen as a worse leader, less charismatic and etc.
So my question is to You do You reason that the earthly sense of beauty and ugliness belongs to the earth itself and has no meaning outside of earth and its inhabitants. To paraphrase the question in other way; is the sense of beauty and ugliness humans tend to feel is it a universal truth or is it a programmed behaviour/thinking in humans who were placed that sense of physical perfection in their minds, and they are following it after and its physical manifestations whether it be a car, a tree, an island, a human being-body and etc, whatever they see it manifest?
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Post by Immanuel on May 22, 2018 15:55:10 GMT
Undeniably there is a sense of design in the shape of the Earth and its features. We usually consider perfect designs to be beautiful and there probably is something about that which is perfect. A Ferrari usually has a sleek design, big engine and is distinctively a masterpiece of engineering, but it is also connected to instincts as owning a model of it shines of social status revealing.
As it seems, perfect specimens are usually considered more interesting than something imperfect.
All species of animal is designed by Elahem and we cannot deny there is a sense of design involved in how each one looks. I would call it a kind of engineering. The Earth and the universe is a manifestation of creativity because even if it is an illusion, the design is like the in-game world of a computer game.
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Post by Wanderer on May 23, 2018 13:27:30 GMT
Indeed it seems like everything from the leaf to the elephant has a perfect model and this every object is compared to the perfect model, eg. a perfect elephant, a perfect apple tree, a perfect circle etc.
Amenuel, so If perfection is better than imperfection why cant a truly conscious being even though The Being in the realization that the host-animal/body that the being is controlling in this earth reality, why can't The Being try to make it look nice/beautiful/presentable if the Being is Elohims representative/light in the world/darkness? Usually having a beautiful host/body/vehicle is correlated with the healthiness of the animal. Example., when an animal gets sick it tends to look less healthy, less attractive, hair starts to thin/or fall out, the skin loses its color and etc. If a Truly sane/sound Being would go after healthiness/sharpness and beauties/perfection of the mind, why can't the same Being who is attached to the host/body that represents the Being for the time-being in this earthly reality, why wouldn't he want it to look more sound/perfect/beautiful, as long as it does not hinder mental/mind growth/expansion?
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Post by Immanuel on May 25, 2018 6:46:49 GMT
The Earth is intended as a believable illusion on man.
I have never said that aiming for the soundness of mind incorporates neglect of the body's condition and health, but enhancing the beauty beyond taking care of the body for its health for instinctive reasons is what I mean is not supporting mental growth.
Eysua was no advocate of fasting or a miserable living nor am I.
Just learn what is the call of the Satan (i.e. the instinct of the body).
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