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Post by Wanderer on Jun 11, 2018 17:29:16 GMT
Is there any way to rationalize a meaning to life on earth, if there is a 100% certainty that there is no life after death?
From a 100% objective standpoint?
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Post by Yasin on Jun 11, 2018 22:37:11 GMT
No, a streak of coincidences can not produce an existential purpose. It's logically false.
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Post by Wanderer on Jun 12, 2018 2:37:55 GMT
However, even if logically it is more probable that there is intelligence behind the creation of our universe, and it is most probably is more advanced than any human intelligence that exists on earth and existed before. However, it does not mean that the intelligence that created this reality, and our minds, that it must give us life after the death of the body? There is a big probability that it is just wishful thinking from the side of earthlings, No?
In other words, if this reality and us/we/humanity is a creation of someone, rather a result of a coincidence. It does not particularly mean that while we are "alive" in our individual bodies, that we are/will be alive at/after the moment when the body ceases to function, No?
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Post by cerulean on Jun 14, 2018 9:21:37 GMT
By looking around and seeing that everything has a purpose to fulfill ? The sun has a purpose, and only cares about doing that, everyday. same for the trees, the clouds, the bees .......
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Post by Immanuel on Jun 16, 2018 19:38:09 GMT
Is there any way to rationalize a meaning to life on earth, if there is a 100% certainty that there is no life after death? From a 100% objective standpoint? No, one lives according to their own whims and desires. And a life on Earth does not make the wary any happy. Life has no meaning unless there is any underlying purpose, and there is a hidden one.
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Post by Immanuel on Jun 18, 2018 7:25:17 GMT
However, even if logically it is more probable that there is intelligence behind the creation of our universe, and it is most probably is more advanced than any human intelligence that exists on earth and existed before. However, it does not mean that the intelligence that created this reality, and our minds, that it must give us life after the death of the body? There is a big probability that it is just wishful thinking from the side of earthlings, No? In other words, if this reality and us/we/humanity is a creation of someone, rather a result of a coincidence. It does not particularly mean that while we are "alive" in our individual bodies, that we are/will be alive at/after the moment when the body ceases to function, No? Logic tells that the universe cannot exist by coincidence, it is quite plain to see unless one is too biased to accept it and adhere to their preconceptions. Witted contemplation is all it requires to reach the conclusion. But the creating/developing force must not necessarily let there be an afterlife to the specimens inhabiting the world. Since the creator force is alive and conscious it (he/she) can also make a conscious decision to conserve things from it. Truth is one is recycled at each failure as a subject and respawned in a new flesh. This is because the development of us is the purpose of the world's existence. It can feel a bit bizarre, but it is how it is.
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Post by Immanuel on Jun 18, 2018 7:51:00 GMT
We must also consider whether people are independently alive as themselves. Few are. The mind requires development. Most are slaves to their body and its cravings.
When goals in life are no longer driven by instinct then it allows mental elevation, because the mind actively holds the instinct back which trains it (the mind) and makes it more powerful. Actually, every time you think and especially think deeply, this is good exercise for the mind.
Consider there is a mind seed in you and it needs to grow and its nutrition is its independence and protection against the ambience, except water, soil nutrients and sun.
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Post by darren8763 on Sept 24, 2018 23:58:40 GMT
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Post by darren8763 on Sept 25, 2018 0:10:00 GMT
Is there any way to rationalize a meaning to life on earth, if there is a 100% certainty that there is no life after death? From a 100% objective standpoint? No, one lives according to their own whims and desires. And a life on Earth does not make the wary any happy. Life has no meaning unless there is any underlying purpose, and there is a hidden one. Nothing is hidden. Blindness, in this context, is a consequence of not looking correctly.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 7:22:50 GMT
No, one lives according to their own whims and desires. And a life on Earth does not make the wary any happy. Life has no meaning unless there is any underlying purpose, and there is a hidden one. Nothing is hidden. Blindness, in this context, is a consequence of not looking correctly. It is hidden as that most humans do not have any perception of anything beyond the immediate world they live in. In that regard, any meaning for living does not exist except one beyond common perception.
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