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Post by darren8763 on Sept 24, 2018 19:36:51 GMT
Hello everyone.
I've come to the conclusion that only God exists, that the world (including the human body) is an illusion/dream imparted to the soul/spirit via the experiential sensations (colours/hot:cold/sounds etc.). I have also come to the conclusion that God's reason for imposing this false reality upon itself was to facilitate Self discovery and choose from the unlimited potential within itself what It is and thus express this Being through experience, such that God can become more-or-less tangible.
I'm at the stage now where I'm seeking God's will, as opposed to Darren's. Advice/discussion welcome.
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Post by rekkd on Sept 25, 2018 1:21:53 GMT
How did you come to this conclusion? What do you mean by self discovery? And what do you mean by choose from the unlimited potential within itself?
I’d really love to know God’s will! Seems to be always the missing piece of the puzzle
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 7:48:38 GMT
Hello everyone. I've come to the conclusion that only God exists, that the world (including the human body) is an illusion/dream imparted to the soul/spirit via the experiential sensations (colours/hot:cold/sounds etc.). I have also come to the conclusion that God's reason for imposing this false reality upon itself was to facilitate Self discovery and choose from the unlimited potential within itself what It is and thus express this Being through experience, such that God can become more-or-less tangible. I'm at the stage now where I'm seeking God's will, as opposed to Darren's. Advice/discussion welcome. I do not wish to start an argument with you, but the view you present is a little inaccurate. One objection I have is that you have no sort of required surrender to a higher authority, although you are subjected to a kind of isolated environment where you are put up against certain hurdles. Here you are supposed to show your own individual strength of mind in its development and the world is provided as a sort of stimulus for that, although the true nature is hidden. You may be Darren, if I say so, just as I am Emanuel or Immanuel. You can be a individual, that is the purpose of the isolated environment and the creation of new authentically existing life is the purpose of why the so-called Elahem staged this scene called Earth (the word Earth refers to all that is solid and the same word is used in Semitic etymology ارض Ardh). The human, what should we call it, "soul", is a "clone" or copy of the Origin (Father is a common translation of Abbu) and it does have the same potential as what people call "God". The nature of man is very esoteric and hard to interpret and understand, and probability is that we cannot have access to the entire background. I do know much, but I do not know all. I know what Elahem are doing and are trying to accomplish, but the ulterior motive is beyond my knowledge and I do know a lot! But know that what Elahem expects is for you to have a strong will in yourself and not be weak-minded.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 7:59:53 GMT
Correction: I know a lot, in comparison to just about any human on Earth, but in comparison to Elahem my knowledge is limited if we consider the ventures in the world beyond this. For example, I have no knowledge of any projected alternative worlds beyond this one, there may be alternate dimensions, multiple running "simulations" like this one and such as that.
However, since they expect individually strong-minded souls who can function on their own independently, I can conclude that their intention is to have these souls for something of relevance and not like slaves. This is a logical evaluation of data.
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Post by darren8763 on Sept 25, 2018 11:40:23 GMT
I expect disagreements, alternative opinions, though these things can be discussed without argument.
My logical opinion is that God cannot exist as a finite entity (as a part of existence) and thus constitutes the totality of existence, such that if God exists then nothing else does. This is why I cannot accept a divisible reality of anything, including other Gods.
If you read my opening post again, you willl hopefully see that I seek to surrender to God's will and abstain from being Darren.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 12:41:52 GMT
I expect disagreements, alternative opinions, though these things can be discussed without argument. My logical opinion is that God cannot exist as a finite entity (as a part of existence) and thus constitutes the totality of existence, such that if God exists then nothing else does. This is why I cannot accept a divisible reality of anything, including other Gods. If you read my opening post again, you willl hopefully see that I seek to surrender to God's will and abstain from being Darren. I did not say "God" is a finite entity, it does not consist of matter in any way but there can be added features, so to say. These features may be in the form of us, those of us who have any conscious existence to speak of, we share the symbiotic existence of what you call "God". We are, if we so choose to evolve, in existence and we are ourselves then. The Semitic term for "God" is Elahem or Elohim, and that term means Ela, which means "which is" and the suffix Hem which means them. Easily explained, the word means "them being", it is a collective and cryptic term for "being ones". In those beings include individuals such as Jesus (Eysua or Issa). Existence is such in its nature that life can be real and in itself existent if it is shaped that way. There are absolutely no boundaries beyond this realm we live in. Existence is shaped the way this collective mind of many in consensus and symbiosis chooses for it to be like. In what manner are you going to surrender? Are you going to seek to relinquish the Being of yourself? That is something which is not even remotely correct to what any of the prophets spoke of, for they spoke of finding yourself, discovering yourself, and what they meant by that is recognizing the you you in the formula. They spoke of becoming one with "God", one of "God", one of "God's children" as translations put it. If you are supposed to wander in God's image then you surely must evolve or develop, not relinquish who you are, your Being. What you seek is being no one, relinquish your given right to exist, as if you are ashamed of having been given life and want to be a kind of mindless slave. You do not want to be Darren, but what is your substitute then? The alternative is non-existence which means you have no existence at all and that means you will not have any consciousness whatsoever. There is a wide-spread delusion of what "God" is and about submission, but for what reason are you to submit in the first place and what does the actual god benefit from it? Does the god gain good pleasure of seeing a bunch of kneeling fools good for nothing? The key is the mind and its existence, this mind was shaped like a clone of the Origin (God or Father or whatever to call this phenomenon), but each mind is like something from scratch, brought forth from nothingness, with features or inherent traits the same as the real "God". The elder Scriptures liken the mind by a mustard seed, something miniscule referring to how faint it is in opposition to the environment it grows (the body). The choice not to be is yours, there is a choice "to be or not to be", but not Being and not taking your place will not lead anywhere for your Mind, you will not "go to Heaven" as the traditionally religious say. "Go to Heaven" means to ascend, but then you must ascend yourself mentally too. You do not excel if you attempt to relinquish yourself of who you are, who you were made to become.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 13:00:56 GMT
Let us look at it like this; "God" did create new life with minds, in its own image, not an aquarium with fish which swim around in it without any conscious awareness of their existence.
Humans were not created for this "God" individual to feel good over how superior he/she is, there is no gain in it except for instinctive humans and if you choose to ascribe this on "God" then this is your imaginary depiction of "God" ascribing your own fallible traits to "God". If we ignore the creation of man in order to please "God" for having goldfish, then there is absolutely no use of mankind and I would wonder about this creation to begin with, it is not befit the most advanced of beings to have something which does not give any intellectual exchange.
I would dread that existence, to not have anyone around me who gave me any feeling of stimulus to my thoughts and who could even remotely relate to my knowledge. So why did "God" create something like man? To have use for man of course, but like what? Pets? Pets are kind of only giving an instinctive creature any exchange and it would be even less exciting to be interacted by yourself since animals are in essence controlled by "God".
What would I want to do? I would more than anything like to see someone as potent as myself, and that is exactly the intent with man, to evolve new life, something which exists for real, not dead or inanimate or no-mind creatures. That is to create life, to create something you control yourself is not to create new life and people driven by the Satan (the instinct) do not have life, they are mere animals without any evolved "soul seed".
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 13:51:46 GMT
The wish to stand above is instinctive, and this stays within this realm, and nothing you should ascribe to "God".
But choose to be an animal if you like, an entity which is just a slave to "God", but that is just an illusion and what people have imagined for themselves. They made "God" the image of themselves, you surely can see the traits of the traditional god is just like themselves in how it acts and is, it wishes to stand on a piedestal if it can just like worldly humans. It is jealous. It is dominant. It is selfish. It violates several of its own commandments which is quite hypocritical if you ask me.
That is not "God". I have met with "God" and I know what "God" is. "God" is a collective mind and you can distinguish multiple persons therein and so you do not meet just one when you interact with "God". Those you consider "angels" are "God", you do not meet with "God's" subordinates when you meet up with an "angel". You will be a "king", but not of this world.
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 13:52:55 GMT
What is wrong about being Darren and what is God's will?
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Post by Immanuel on Sept 25, 2018 14:16:05 GMT
You can divide between Darren as an animal or Homo sapiens, what is accompanying the body and Darren as something which exists as an own Being. In that regard you should cease being Darren, if referring to what makes you to who you are in a worldly manner. That you is automated, it only gives a superficial sense of existence and so you should cease to be the average human and what they pursue in their so-called lives.
But you can and do have the right to your own integrity as an individual, this will never be taken from you and such as Jesus has his/her right to his own mind or soul as we speak even though he/she has no corporeal presence here. The idea about relinquishment is an old delusion about what "God" means and has no truth in it.
Note: I wrote he/she because gender has no relevance after the embodiment and it would be wrong to call Jesus either of them. This is why he said that either gender should stop being what they are, it is simply an illusion that we are Homo sapiens and you are better-natured than that.
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Post by cerulean on Sept 27, 2018 13:03:03 GMT
I'm at the stage now where I'm seeking God's will, as opposed to Darren's. Advice/discussion welcome. I think I understand what you mean, or maybe not. But I may have been in the same situation before. when you ask yourself what do you want to become in the future, where do you see yourself, what sort of responsibility will you have etc, and then you ask yourself maybe I'm asking the wrong questions, what if none of that mattered ? And then you conclude with the phrase: I should seek what 'god' wants me to seek. You shouldn't worry about the future. Our story is going to unfold just like other peoples'. But we want our focus to be on every step we take, not on the big picture. The big picture is going to be the result of all the step we took. And the steps we take are each and every now. So live each day as Darren, as any other person, but pay attention to how you do that. And eventually a unique story will unfold and it's going to be in accordance with God's will.
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