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Post by hope on Oct 3, 2015 5:12:16 GMT
Hello everybody
I was unsure where to place this thread so I put it in the off-topic section, hope this is not a problem.
I believe that there are people in life that we are destined to meet who are intended to help us on our journey in life, I was just wondering if anybody on this forum believes that they have found one of these people?
Secondly, I wanted to bring up the more traditional term soulmate, in the Wiccan/Magical tradition it is held that everyone finds their soulmate but you might not recognise it. Also they say if you are Magus you would recognise your soulmate by a point of light above their left shoulder. What do you all think of this notion?
Bye Esperanza
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 3, 2015 11:26:54 GMT
Hello Esperanza, In ways this is not really off-topic but an important part of the increased joining with the Realm. As I have learned the soul mate is not fixed but varies depending on "soul status" and there is thus no distinctly predestined soul mate although if you say a prayer depending on given specifics you are matched up by God's "match-making" (it is probably better to say that you wish God to choose what is best for you because God knows you better than you yourself being tainted by your Body). It is usually not a coincidence that a person meets another because the Spirits work in mysterious ways being a share of God's Grand Consciousness. The reason why some of you are on this forum is such coincidence. I have studied some of that historical background concerning "magician" and it was a religious faith that stemmed from the far East and from their clerics there came people wandering to see the newborn Jesus. Just "magi" appear to be clerics of ancient Persian religion. See this extract from the Biblical Gospels: Matthew 2:1 When Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of King Herod, behold, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, You can read more on Wikipedia: Magi. Extracts from there: Magi (/ˈmeɪdʒaɪ/; Latin plural of magus; Ancient Greek: μάγος magos; Old Persian: ? maguš, Persian: مُغ mogh; English singular magian, mage, magus, magusian, magusaean; Kurdish: manji, Turkish: mecaz) is a term, used since at least the 6th century BCE, to denote followers of Zoroastrianism or Zoroaster. The earliest known usage of the word Magi is in the trilingual inscription written by Darius the Great, known as the Behistun Inscription. Old Persian texts, pre-dating the Hellenistic period, refer to a Magus as a Zurvanic, and presumably Zoroastrian, priest.They were a priestly caste of Persia in ancient times. They were probably Gnostic in lifestyle and studied Knowledge beyond the worldly. Little is known about them except some Old Persian texts. Apparently you have to draw a distinction between them and the hypocritical Pharisees who also appear to stem from the ruling seat in the Fars region of today's Iran. I have feeling that the Magus lived a pretty secluded life yet were pretty respected spiritually. I would say they are like Buddhist monks today.' If they said it is possible to see a soul mate based on a light on their left shoulder this is nothing that I have ever heard of. There is often a light/energy within my field of view if that is the kind of indication that it implied there. It could probably be spoken about some kind of aura and suitable soul mates are variously ascended Spiritually so they would be able to recognize their increased "energetic emission". I am sure that a perceptive person can recognize a powerful ascended soul by their radiating aura around them even in the Flesh because their "nuur" in them also shines. The matching is more about soul status and the matching of their Spirit than physical attraction. Be safe Amenuel
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Post by hope on Oct 4, 2015 11:15:15 GMT
Thank you so much for your response,
Does this imply that you can have different "soul-mates" as you progress through the faith? How does this work if you have already married or have a partner?
Just out of interest sake, have you met many people that having this radiating aura present?
While I agree about physical attraction not being all that important, I still feel that you are in some why "attached" to specific "souls" or "spirits" in this life.
Esperanza
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 4, 2015 13:20:20 GMT
Does this imply that you can have different "soul-mates" as you progress through the faith? How does this work if you have already married or have a partner? Hello Esperanza, Yes, you obviously would not have a soul mate that is heading in the wrong direction and is completely incompatible or you would have to live your life prevented or not able to fulfill your purpose. You can reject a person and there is another soul mate. God may grant you divorce in some cases to ease your burden and then you have another soul mate which God arranges. It is all according to the "timeline" and the shaped destiny. Divorce is normally not allowed, but that does not say it is impossible when the unity between souls is broken utterly and you cannot go on together anymore after a period of years trying on and off and you clearly tried to show the spouse the right way. The timing to know when a divorce is viable must be sensed from within the "I AM" and separated from the Body's desires and you will face negative consequences to your Spirit if you had no valid reason to divorce except that there were some rough times. The marriage is a test and meant to be a merging between the plus and minus to become one. It is not to be taken lightly. A proper marriage means that the man and woman are no longer two individuals but one and there is no female or male but they are together in unity. When either person in the marriage considers themselves separate through word or deed then that is detrimental and opposite of the purpose. This is why in tradition a woman is being absorbed into the man's presentation Spirit name and not publicly represented by their own name. If it dissatisfies the woman they can choose a new neutral name. It is not a matter of possession to the male. In Quran you will not find the separate name of a single wife of the prophets but they are always referred to as a the "wife of" because she is not supposed to be considered separate from the man but as one unit. This is because Quran teaches the Kingdom of God all out. It has lived on in some Western traditions where the female takes the male's family name, for example Mrs. Adams. But women do obviously have a maiden name which they may carry their whole lives but it refers to her individual share of the Spirit, the female share, the Ramm while the male is Rabb. Their merging is meant to be absolute, them complementing each other to truly become "Who Such Are" Totally Complete (al-rahman al-raheem). Many times the words of God are not literal, but in this case they are: "male and female created He them, they should CLEAVE UNTO/INTO each other and become as one body". The man "Being As Such as" the Rabb رب (Foundation brought forth of) ابى, sustaining (providing platform/foundation for) and initiating the family, and the woman "Being As Such as" the Ramm رم (foundation brought out of - root is used in Miryem's name) امى, delivering the family. This is not an unfair orientation but both have their representations of God but they only have to see it in the proper light. This is politically incorrect in the Western world, but it is how God initiated our test and I am not drawn from talking. The answer is in your Beast's biological design and unless you deny your gender's identity you do wish to attain the role. Here is where the Spirit gets in conflict because it can choose anything it likes, i.e. not to accept the role of the Beast and it is a failure of the test not to play along; it is like theater just the same as if you become an Angel you are to be able to simulate a test even if you do not need to take an active part, and if you cannot improvise realistically you fail. Here is a trap actually because we are not supposed to give in to the Body's instincts yet use its community creating functionality, but the answer is in the ability to be the respective role out of empathy for others, most importantly your co-player, the wife respectively husband and can use the ability to be empathetic to raise goodly children (with their respective Spirits/souls). What people miss is that it is a kind of submission from both genders, the man to satisfactorily provide a reasonable foundation for the family while the woman to be a good caretaker so that the whole family is healthy "from within", so it is not about one gender being inferior to the other. And obviously since they merge the boundaries are not holy and they were meant to complement each other, something that the sectarian crowd often misses. Both are to be able to mutually make decisions within the household together. I happened to move more into the topic of marriage; it seems to occur to me often. Yes I have. It becomes a matter of telepathy. A stronger Spirit becomes more attractive overall by that the Body changes dramatically over time since that the perfect and realizing person does not neglect their Body's well-being in the Ruh (the breath). The person who cannot care for themselves is not fit to be an Angel who is a representative of God. On top of that, the compatible person observer does perceive the person more attractive due to their charms and intellectual radiance. I know also the above is politically incorrect, but the truth cannot be concealed because of that reason, and it does not have to do with appearance but about radiance even if appearance comes as a "side-effect". You can be attached to certain souls in this life because God brings them forth to you, but nothing is fixed because we shape our destiny by what we do. God did bring me forth to my wife in 2009 after a prayer I did in 2007 and it appeared predestined in peculiar ways given her Persian origin and I got involved in a whole net of falsehood concerning the origin of Islam and I learned that Islam actually is Persian in origin by rebelling clerics of the Pharisee sect that opposed Jesus' teachings about association with God and rallied the whole Arabian Peninsula by falsely interpreting Quran to say something which it does not. God has some sort of pre-written manuscript but it is more complicated than that but it can be edited "on-the-fly" to what it was not originally but yet seem predestined. The fate of individual people is not predestined but we either doom ourselves or reach ascension. In ways you can say God is writing the manuscript as it happens and thus it seems predestined while in reality it is not even if you can see that "it was meant as such". Obviously nothing is hard for God but it is possible to match material written on-the-fly with such as prophecies without any inconsistency. Be safe Amenuel
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Post by hope on Oct 5, 2015 9:19:44 GMT
Hi there
I disagree with this somewhat, I do not see how one could have multiple soul mates at different eras of development. One might have a soulmate that one has not yet met when you marry another, but I think a soul mate is forever and not dependent on your development.
I have been contemplating this statement. While I can understand your reasoning, I still feel that each person has been sent to Earth with a specific inner and outer purpose. The inner purpose is to find God within you (my viewpoint) and an out purpose that is somewhat related to your naturals skills and talents. I believe work to be an extremely important part of life as I see the physical plane as a place of work. Therefore I see roles within a marriage more based on the purpose given to one by God, perhaps that man has a more flexible job and is more able to care for the children, for example.
Secondly, I think that woman are more naturally suited to become leaders within a religious environment as they are generally more sensitive to "non" visual signs. (No offence to you).
How does your wife feel about your viewpoints issued forth on the forum?
I agree with you that God has a "divine" plan, and it in come ways accounts for our flaws as human beings, which is why it can be edited "on-the-fly" as you say. I understand why you say that the fate of the individual is not predestined, but don't you think that God has planned to reclaim every soul, regardless of how long it may take? I don't see God giving up on his creations.
You are an interesting person... Bye Esperanza
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Post by Immanuel on Oct 5, 2015 20:46:58 GMT
Hello Esperanza, I disagree with this somewhat, I do not see how one could have multiple soul mates at different eras of development. One might have a soulmate that one has not yet met when you marry another, but I think a soul mate is forever and not dependent on your development. The explanation to this can be slightly complicated but you do have a unique Spirit which is you but this can either be nurtured into "being such as Him" or it can decay into lifelessness and delusion. At every condition that you may be in there is always a potential soul mate but you are only into God's "match-making" when you have a Spirit to talk about or as an animal you look to that yourself since your Spirit is too dim to be able to recognize anything. Personally I would not say there is any soul mate system as per traditional belief but it is conditional. Obviously there is a for you very few perfect matches if you have evolved into an Ascended Being and that sensation may make a person feel there is a unique soul mate when they meet someone with a strong aura. In fact it is the glow from their ascension. Too bad if you find a soul mate after you have married because divorce is not looked upon positively except under dire marital circumstances. But I can agree, there is a "kind of" soul mate system with a match based on the direction of your path. It can be that God proclaims that a person is for you and strongly suggests that you stay with this person. God will reward good judgment and make the person beautiful in your eyes. I have been contemplating this statement. While I can understand your reasoning, I still feel that each person has been sent to Earth with a specific inner and outer purpose. The inner purpose is to find God within you (my viewpoint) and an out purpose that is somewhat related to your naturals skills and talents. I believe work to be an extremely important part of life as I see the physical plane as a place of work. Therefore I see roles within a marriage more based on the purpose given to one by God, perhaps that man has a more flexible job and is more able to care for the children, for example. We are not here on this Earth to be toiling along in our lives, that is a complete misunderstanding and it is a big trap. We must sustain our family and thus we need to work plus we do services for other people, but the World is not meant to be indulged in by any means. If anything our work should be to make better people out of others for it is the Spirit that should be cleansed and not any illusion that you see before you. To start with our own children is always a good idea after we have solved our own problems. And to sweep under our own door mat before trying to help others. Your Spiritual progress should express itself in your way of working. Secondly, I think that woman are more naturally suited to become leaders within a religious environment as they are generally more sensitive to "non" visual signs. (No offence to you). That is likely individual rather than being a gender-specific issue and a matter of ascension of the Spirit. The Spirit is without gender so that would matter little. And apart from that I think you have to explain a little better what you mean by "non" visual signs. That ultimately depends on how separated from the Body you have become and closer to your Spirit. An ascended Spirit that drifted away from the Beast's gender limitations do not have a "visual perception" of the World. The one circumstance where you may be right here is if you compare between a lifeless man and a lifeless woman because then the woman may be as according to how you reason, since a man without Spiritual connection perceives the World pretty square-like, but separated the man and the woman can perceive the World the same way since both stem from the same Spirit copy of God. A released man and woman can think like either gender at the same time yet remain in a specific Body. I can both think and feel like a woman yet residing in a man's Body. But it is before completion needed 50% man and 50% woman to make up a good leader, this is the combination with best share of capability. What you are into is just another gender segregation and superiority diversion that fellow men who have been misogynists towards your gender for thousands of years. It is not time to turn the tide to portray fallibly in the other direction, to succeed in any kind of role it is needed 50% man and 50% woman. Man and woman together complement each other, no matter field. Excelling is the person who has become able to separate their Body identity to be able to think out-of-the-box. But I am not offended because I know what you were thinking and I can agree when comparing with the typical religious leader. The Beast's male gender unrefined is terrible on certain matters. Often it feels like the lifeless female shows a better tendency towards empathy compared to the lifeless male. Empathy is the most important parameter from the 'Ten Stumbling Blocks' (Ten Commandments) that Moses came with except the obvious "clinging unto "Be Such As Him" (Allah) Rabb in unity". Yet I think you are mistaken about any superiority in a leader setting because men has also done wrong in the past and the leader should actually be a man and woman in unity to complement each other, even if either of them can "separate the Spirit from the Body". How does your wife feel about your viewpoints issued forth on the forum? She agrees with me 100%, these days. I agree with you that God has a "divine" plan, and it in come ways accounts for our flaws as human beings, which is why it can be edited "on-the-fly" as you say. I understand why you say that the fate of the individual is not predestined, but don't you think that God has planned to reclaim every soul, regardless of how long it may take? I don't see God giving up on his creations. Nothing from what I have read so far indicates that God would continue endlessly after a certain point. It does simply seem like certain people are beyond betterment and only fall further and further back in progress. I cannot speak for the future on this matter since I do not have that prophetic insight but I know the outlook right now and it is not many at all who have managed to continue into ascension. Most people are considered lifeless with their Spirit at minimum. This era's prophecy fulfillment project is supposed to probably turn the tide when God's Lore is to be available more black on white. Considered I am not without wisdom I can make out myself that this is an act of mercy to enable more stray sheep from the Children of Israel to find the true purpose of their existence and that God does actually care about the success of His/Her/Its children. The question is for how long people will have to stay in Jahannom (explained as "testing ground" by the Holy Spirit) before they realize that their way is out from there. You have thus no absolute verdict from me but I can on that matter only speak from my insight into the matter and with my foot inside the Realm. I expect that the results of this campaign on reinterpretation of religious scriptures including Quran and a "good news" from the Creator will yield an improvement of the outlook. You are an interesting person... That was difficult to read if it was an ironical or sincere estimation. Be safe Amenuel
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