Post by Immanuel on Oct 31, 2021 5:49:28 GMT
Hello again,
And sorry about the late reply.
I can answer the questions but you ask so many questions and I referred to a psychologist because they could answer it just as well as I could, perhaps even better because they have it as a profession and think about the matters more than I do.
Just because they respond to pain does not necessarily mean they are sentient. Pain is related to the body and I have said that and the mind are two separate entities.
I understand your issues with how things are, but we cannot help how things are. If you are to reach a point to debate whether "God" exists based on these directions of discussion it causes immense issues with logic as I have explained. Nor can you deny the observation of how the world looks like and that it works exactly how you have issues with it.
Even if you have problems with it, it is the blunt unemotional scenario that the humans have been exposed to on Earth and there is "someone" who put them there in this way. This someone has no moral issues with it. And it is not with me you are to argue about it with because I have nothing to do with it. It is not I who have put forth the system as you said in the last post.
And you are wrong in that there is no guarantee you end up with Elahem if you manage to abstain all instincts because that is basically the criterion to qualify for it. Your problem is that you are too bleedy and emotional due to your attachment to the worldly and see just one side of the coin.
There are things that you have to accept in order to progress further. You may have issues with it but it is how things are and exactly how it works no matter if you like it or not. I have not said I am perfectly fine with it but I try not to add too much opinion to it for something I may not understand fully. I have had my share of pain in life and I could see where you get your ideas from, but I also have seen the light so to speak.
You need to escape from your presumptions of an all benevolent creator who does not employ both good and evil methods to achieve their agenda, if you are to progress. This is not how it works. Just look at the creation with rampaging wars through the millennia on Earth, mass murder and torture, and diseases, and it is the one who created it, do you think this creator is only good? It was the one who created this mass murderer to be this way.
Your option now is to either renounce that "God" exists and just head back to an earthly life and forget about things or accept things for how they are. I am not someone to force you to either option because I am just an informer.
You are subtly seeking to apply your biased feelings and the moral dilemma and ask me to more like "defend my evil belief". I am not defending any belief but simply reality for how it is. Like I already wrote put plainly; I cannot be put to trial for someone else's choice to make a system and answer for it nor decide why you would want to become a creator yourself, this is something you have to decide for yourself.
I am eager to create funny-looking animals, just think about the extinct dinosaurs and how scientists have figured out they might have looked based on their skeletons. I put no value to how I have been treated like dirt in order to evolve into who I am today nor that a human child starves to death in Africa. I see all positive on becoming supernatural, superhuman and I have already experienced partial superhumanity and can hence see its existence.
I do understand why so many people cannot make the move onwards, some simply have issues like you do and instead divert into conjecture like that "God is good" which is a delusion based on how the world looks like. You have to think, and think a lot and I have told you you need to look aside your emotions and your limited worldview.
Is your problem you do not want to risk losing out on your life and pleasantries for something that MAY be true?
I told you that you can begin on a more limited scale if you have doubts in your mind. Small things can lead to greater things. Your greatest issue is that you trouble your mind and try to understand reality from your human eyes.
Humans instincts are like shackles and trying to shake them off you is a great opening. When you shake them off you, you can begin to see more clearly. Most importantly the instincts keep a human preoccupied, it is the biggest problem. The fourth "commandment" is to keep the sabbeteh (Sabbath) which translates into something like keeping the mind focused, literally the word refers to "be in bedazzlement/fascination (interest/focus), and it directly connects to the first commandment. The first commandment tells: "Be devoted to becoming one of those who are being".
The instincts are constantly calling to divert to other things than what is relevant and focus is required. You can clearly see what the instincts lead people to. Some seem innocent but it leads to a slave-like living. You talk about friends, work and school and I clearly see you do not understand a thing of what I have talked about. It does not matter a crap, if I am to talk bluntly. Work you have to do because you are a slave to a system, one may have to work to get around, the expenses in life directly connect to the amount of effort required. Even I have to work to get around, it is a necessary evil although I keep my expenses at a minimum because I do not need anything special, but I do not have to have friends on Earth. Hugs or kisses are not required also. I put a child to life and made an oath of marriage, so this is the company I live with. My wife is as physically disconnected as I am and we do not touch each other very much. My son needs security as a growing individual so I am there.
I told you that you cannot have both ways of living, you somewhere have to choose. What life do you want? Do you want to pursue a normal life or do you seek to grow mentally? Up to a certain point you can mix a bit of both ways but at a crossroads you need to step on forward and leave the "normal life" behind.
With all the above said, it is good that you try to think about the whole picture, but some things you simply can almost impossibly make sense of until you understand more and you need to accept the immediate issue. As you can see you and I have completely different eyes but I might have thought the way you do years ago that I do not understand why the world looks the way it does. Some blame Satan and others become atheists, and between Satan and atheism, atheism is more logical, but it is even more logical to accept that the creator has two sides of the coin. "God is both good and evil". "God" created an evil world and put the human inside of it which means it was an act of evil considered all the calamity in it, even the body of the human is bad, a weak creature with instincts, a thing which is essentially an animal.
The only act of mercy, of goodness, is the seed of life put inside, the clone of itself, "God's spirit" which is the reason the human is so called sentient. Because the human is sentient it can act differently from its "programming, not cause chaos on Earth, wars and plunder, or let it be a slave to primal desires. It can, but it takes that the individual makes a choice of who to be.
You understand that if you ask the same question over and over again with me here you do not get a different answer. The world including "God" is not as good as you want the answer of me to be. Your problem with it is why many people become atheists or they come up with hocus pocus in order to make it fit with their worldview (see religions). The logic is for atheists: because God is not good is the reason God does not exist. For religious people it is usually "evil exists because we did something wrong and/or Satan whispers things in our ears."
Why cannot God be evil in your eyes?
Why to go to great lengths to create unpleasant diseases and not be a little evil?
Learn to accept things for what they are. The world is not as pleasantly picturesque as you seek to make it and for me to say it is. I am here to tell the truth, not to lie to be popular or to appease to people to feel better. Am I a pessimist? No I am merely a realist.
When I saw and learned about the upcoming prophecy of Isaiah I was upsetting myself because people let themselves be driven towards what is about to happen, but now I have accepted that and I let it happen with less emotion put towards it. To be caught up and rallied towards the unrest on Earth is exactly the trap to fall into and lose miserably. I read the news and follow events closely, but I remind myself that they occur like scripted events.
One interesting thing is that humans exactly fail to uphold the ninth "commandment" due to the instinct which is because they lie to themselves in order to fit their biased worldview into the picture at all costs. Rather than accept things they "carry false testimony" i.e. come up with conjecture to make the truth fit into it. Some created Satan, others ascribe an original sin to themselves, because nowhere in their deluded ideas can God instead be the evil one, that fact they cannot accept so they have to lie around it. I do not: The world we live in was created innately evil and God can be both good and evil. If you want another answer you can go to a priest or imam, or ask an atheist for his argument why God does not exist.
And sorry about the late reply.
I can answer the questions but you ask so many questions and I referred to a psychologist because they could answer it just as well as I could, perhaps even better because they have it as a profession and think about the matters more than I do.
Just because they respond to pain does not necessarily mean they are sentient. Pain is related to the body and I have said that and the mind are two separate entities.
I understand your issues with how things are, but we cannot help how things are. If you are to reach a point to debate whether "God" exists based on these directions of discussion it causes immense issues with logic as I have explained. Nor can you deny the observation of how the world looks like and that it works exactly how you have issues with it.
Even if you have problems with it, it is the blunt unemotional scenario that the humans have been exposed to on Earth and there is "someone" who put them there in this way. This someone has no moral issues with it. And it is not with me you are to argue about it with because I have nothing to do with it. It is not I who have put forth the system as you said in the last post.
And you are wrong in that there is no guarantee you end up with Elahem if you manage to abstain all instincts because that is basically the criterion to qualify for it. Your problem is that you are too bleedy and emotional due to your attachment to the worldly and see just one side of the coin.
There are things that you have to accept in order to progress further. You may have issues with it but it is how things are and exactly how it works no matter if you like it or not. I have not said I am perfectly fine with it but I try not to add too much opinion to it for something I may not understand fully. I have had my share of pain in life and I could see where you get your ideas from, but I also have seen the light so to speak.
You need to escape from your presumptions of an all benevolent creator who does not employ both good and evil methods to achieve their agenda, if you are to progress. This is not how it works. Just look at the creation with rampaging wars through the millennia on Earth, mass murder and torture, and diseases, and it is the one who created it, do you think this creator is only good? It was the one who created this mass murderer to be this way.
Your option now is to either renounce that "God" exists and just head back to an earthly life and forget about things or accept things for how they are. I am not someone to force you to either option because I am just an informer.
You are subtly seeking to apply your biased feelings and the moral dilemma and ask me to more like "defend my evil belief". I am not defending any belief but simply reality for how it is. Like I already wrote put plainly; I cannot be put to trial for someone else's choice to make a system and answer for it nor decide why you would want to become a creator yourself, this is something you have to decide for yourself.
I am eager to create funny-looking animals, just think about the extinct dinosaurs and how scientists have figured out they might have looked based on their skeletons. I put no value to how I have been treated like dirt in order to evolve into who I am today nor that a human child starves to death in Africa. I see all positive on becoming supernatural, superhuman and I have already experienced partial superhumanity and can hence see its existence.
I do understand why so many people cannot make the move onwards, some simply have issues like you do and instead divert into conjecture like that "God is good" which is a delusion based on how the world looks like. You have to think, and think a lot and I have told you you need to look aside your emotions and your limited worldview.
Is your problem you do not want to risk losing out on your life and pleasantries for something that MAY be true?
I told you that you can begin on a more limited scale if you have doubts in your mind. Small things can lead to greater things. Your greatest issue is that you trouble your mind and try to understand reality from your human eyes.
Humans instincts are like shackles and trying to shake them off you is a great opening. When you shake them off you, you can begin to see more clearly. Most importantly the instincts keep a human preoccupied, it is the biggest problem. The fourth "commandment" is to keep the sabbeteh (Sabbath) which translates into something like keeping the mind focused, literally the word refers to "be in bedazzlement/fascination (interest/focus), and it directly connects to the first commandment. The first commandment tells: "Be devoted to becoming one of those who are being".
The instincts are constantly calling to divert to other things than what is relevant and focus is required. You can clearly see what the instincts lead people to. Some seem innocent but it leads to a slave-like living. You talk about friends, work and school and I clearly see you do not understand a thing of what I have talked about. It does not matter a crap, if I am to talk bluntly. Work you have to do because you are a slave to a system, one may have to work to get around, the expenses in life directly connect to the amount of effort required. Even I have to work to get around, it is a necessary evil although I keep my expenses at a minimum because I do not need anything special, but I do not have to have friends on Earth. Hugs or kisses are not required also. I put a child to life and made an oath of marriage, so this is the company I live with. My wife is as physically disconnected as I am and we do not touch each other very much. My son needs security as a growing individual so I am there.
I told you that you cannot have both ways of living, you somewhere have to choose. What life do you want? Do you want to pursue a normal life or do you seek to grow mentally? Up to a certain point you can mix a bit of both ways but at a crossroads you need to step on forward and leave the "normal life" behind.
With all the above said, it is good that you try to think about the whole picture, but some things you simply can almost impossibly make sense of until you understand more and you need to accept the immediate issue. As you can see you and I have completely different eyes but I might have thought the way you do years ago that I do not understand why the world looks the way it does. Some blame Satan and others become atheists, and between Satan and atheism, atheism is more logical, but it is even more logical to accept that the creator has two sides of the coin. "God is both good and evil". "God" created an evil world and put the human inside of it which means it was an act of evil considered all the calamity in it, even the body of the human is bad, a weak creature with instincts, a thing which is essentially an animal.
The only act of mercy, of goodness, is the seed of life put inside, the clone of itself, "God's spirit" which is the reason the human is so called sentient. Because the human is sentient it can act differently from its "programming, not cause chaos on Earth, wars and plunder, or let it be a slave to primal desires. It can, but it takes that the individual makes a choice of who to be.
You understand that if you ask the same question over and over again with me here you do not get a different answer. The world including "God" is not as good as you want the answer of me to be. Your problem with it is why many people become atheists or they come up with hocus pocus in order to make it fit with their worldview (see religions). The logic is for atheists: because God is not good is the reason God does not exist. For religious people it is usually "evil exists because we did something wrong and/or Satan whispers things in our ears."
Why cannot God be evil in your eyes?
Why to go to great lengths to create unpleasant diseases and not be a little evil?
Learn to accept things for what they are. The world is not as pleasantly picturesque as you seek to make it and for me to say it is. I am here to tell the truth, not to lie to be popular or to appease to people to feel better. Am I a pessimist? No I am merely a realist.
When I saw and learned about the upcoming prophecy of Isaiah I was upsetting myself because people let themselves be driven towards what is about to happen, but now I have accepted that and I let it happen with less emotion put towards it. To be caught up and rallied towards the unrest on Earth is exactly the trap to fall into and lose miserably. I read the news and follow events closely, but I remind myself that they occur like scripted events.
One interesting thing is that humans exactly fail to uphold the ninth "commandment" due to the instinct which is because they lie to themselves in order to fit their biased worldview into the picture at all costs. Rather than accept things they "carry false testimony" i.e. come up with conjecture to make the truth fit into it. Some created Satan, others ascribe an original sin to themselves, because nowhere in their deluded ideas can God instead be the evil one, that fact they cannot accept so they have to lie around it. I do not: The world we live in was created innately evil and God can be both good and evil. If you want another answer you can go to a priest or imam, or ask an atheist for his argument why God does not exist.