Deleted the "Consult Immanuel" subsection - forum members can ask questions in an appropriate category instead. Added News headlines on the forum front page (highlight scroll bar).
Apart from this it would be great if the current members of this forum could somehow involve themselves more than previously to encourage a steady flow of information.
It is noticed that the forum does not have more than one or two members who truly have faith in this underlying research project connected to what has been presented on the forum however, and it is not expected any miracles at this point. We must remember that if Rabb had the intention then we would be doing wonders in order to appeal to the general public but that was never the intention because we live in a test environment where each person has to find their true origin based on their spirit potential. Therefore the project is estimated to appeal to quality before quantity and we do not need to worry about numbers. Rabb inspired; "Wait and they will come" and that is what we will do.
Changed title to better present the forum plus edited names and description of forum categories for the same purpose.
For those aware of Semitic religious tradition, 'Those Who Are Being' is a translation of Elohem or Allahem. It is wise to wait and/or search for clarification before jumping to any preconceived conclusions.
Made changes to the forum structure. Many threads moved around the forum so that topics are sorted better according to their subjects. Changes were made to make the forum cleaner and more easily navigated to find what one is looking for in terms of general guidance on matters.
There will be a specific category to discuss history and its implications, instead of it being intertwined in other categories.
I have tried to make efforts in toning down the religious look of the forum since this is also not a kind of belief system but one can empirically test the methods proclaimed here and experience the results. As more people do this we can make this "general health advice" more spread around the globe. Of course this is associated with ancient mysticism and paranormal activity such as the supernatural existence of a reality beyond the universe as we know it, but yet this is something which adds to the teaching and not the other way around and acknowledging this is not necessary to benefit from the spiritual lessons proclaimed here. Much of what is taught here can be connected to human scientific arguments without incompatibility compared to religious faith. We can perceive this forum to complement what science cannot explain such as the origin of our seemingly miraculous mind and why there appears to have emerged a universe "out of the blue". Much cannot be proved through empirical science because we lack the instrumentation, but through logic it is possible to infer the highest probably cause of our existence, and it is an empirical study if a person tests a theory of the methods of this forum and see an improvement of their mental awareness, no matter if it can be explained or not, but logic can tell there is something to our minds which contains a seed-like phenomenon which can grow planted in our minds.
Been working on further removing the scent of religion from the forum structure. The removal or replacement of words like faith is not intended as a deception to a potential reader but mark that you can reconcile the concept of this forum with ordinary science and through elaboration we are going to prove that science can be a tool to empirically prove that following the proposed concept will have positive impacts on the mind of anyone adhering to it. Due to the fact that the forum does not claim there is a standard "god" of any sort but more like a universal force, the preliminary focus is not on a "God phenomenon" which turns into a delusion of worship, but the focus is on what does in fact improve the condition of our minds, i.e. the focus is entirely disconnected from to be or not to be a "God" of any kind. What any person should be concerned with in life is improvement of the mind and "background lore" is only secondary and may please the curious mind as a kind of bonus.
Certainly, if the concept presented on this forum is indeed beneficial for the mind and that the mind does actually become sharper and clearer, then it obviously means we have scientifically proven including evidence that there is a connection between bodily stimuli and the mind, and that the body does in fact affect the mind adversely. A logical assumption which would appear plausible then is that there is a clear difference between the mind and body, and this is obviously what people like us are struggling to prove to be able to reconcile ancient methods of abstention with any logical reason for doing so, instead of being just "religious doctrines" to which crazy people with faith adhere to because a god commanded them to with no conveyed logical reason for it.
Basically, what the forum is trying to ultimately prove is that the mind is indeed the soul and the body is more like an outer shell with own life in which we reside, so the body is technically the host for our soul/mind which is of a far superior origin and potential.
One goal is to be able to penetrate the defenses (mental barriers) of also so-called atheist people in order to turn them over to this scientifically bound concept which is run by a foundation which requires logical answers which can be testable scientifically. This should become like it was a branch of science. However, even like this unrecognized concept, the closest science of man this is related to is actually psychology which has also had to endure problems in becoming recognized as a branch of science. One problem is the problematic to test origin of what we discuss which causes it to be hard to be recognized by science. One has to be shrewd and use the few possible ways to test the concept whereof one is to actually employ the concept in practice, wholeheartedly, and have confidence it is going to work.
A secondary goal is to expose religious lore of the ancient times and search for authentic material which is written by mentally evolved individuals who adhered to the same concept in the past and even though they did not have the material technology to many things, the human psyche has always been something people can contemplate upon and use logic to explain and explore, so knowledge of what drives a man, i.e. the instinct may very well have been known millennia ago and this is what I am suggesting that the so-called 'Ten Commandments' are based upon and are ways of mending the instinctive calls. Most of what is associated with the concept of Moses/Musa is mere nonsense, between the life of Moses/Musa and today much has fallen into incompetent hands and delusional clergymen, so this is why it seems so religious and about the faith of a god, but believe me Moses/Musa did not believe in a god and his concept meant that "God" or Being is like "I am being who I am" or I am making myself into what I am, basically. Moses/Musa taught to stop the divine worship (Paganism) and focus on the personal development, and ironically his teachings became associated with religious worship afterwards, because people could not decipher the accounts of him properly. The Being people think they should worship, is written about themselves to be one with, so ironically people worship themselves worshiping their illusion of a god.
The 'High Community' (Heaven) which consists of "ascended individuals" are from "soul seeds" just like you and me and they are in no way superior to us in potential and obviously they would not require worship since they are not tied to instincts of an animal. The god delusion of men is just an image of themselves and they are deluded that their god expects the same emotional treatment as an instinctive human, however in fact the only equivalent of a god, the 'High Community' has reach the condition in which they are not instinctively human anymore (ascended individual) because they have rid themselves of the characteristics of an instinctive human, so this god delusion is inconsistent logically. The recipe to reach ascension is through following the 'Ten Commandments' (working against the instinct) while the worshiped god is in contradiction to the rules, so it is seemingly stupid. We know our mind grows through not portraying the characteristics shown in the list of ten, but the 'High Community' (if equaled to "God") is expected to violate them to feel grandiose, like a megalomaniac and is literally breaking every commandment itself, often seeking to defeat/dominate those who are against it (e.g. like disbelieve in the god). Instead, if you are a logically consistent person, you can clearly see that this god is simply a copy of themselves and their expectations.
So in essence there is no god to worship or show reverence towards and therefore the focus should be on your self and your development into a mentally stronger being. It is your responsibility to accommodate growth and no divinity is going to do the hard work for you, for you are you and they are they, your soul is your soul and it is your being.
I am not sure how much you can see how anti-religious Jesus is according to the Biblical Gospels? Jesus/Eysua is a kind of predecessor teacher on this and also seeks to focus on "God being Who Is God" e.g. through "I am in the Father/Originator and the Father/Originator is in me". Sadly, Jesu teachings were corrupted by conjecture and erroneous attributed definitions in translations into Greek. If you could contemplate objectively while reading the Gospels one more time, you can see that Jesu is completely non-religious and teaches people to have self-confidence and finding their selves (because then they have found their "God") and this shines through despite tragic definitions like "son of God" or "only begotten son" entered Greek translations in medieval times. Furthermore, reflect on why Jesu is saying "You will become children of the Father" if he is the only son of God and no one can achieve the same mental elevation as he. Try not to give yourself any excuses but just read it black on white and be logical about it. You will notice there are then inconsistencies in the translation because parts are then suddenly turning contradictory to what others parts say. This is not subsequently invalidating the origin of the text, but obviously someone trying to decipher/understand and translate did so incorrectly. Obviously the terms "son of God" or "only begotten son" must carry a false translation and there is a mistake in the understanding of the phrases.
"What we teach here is to not even let yourself be "natural" but accept that you are a form of supernatural lifeform and develop that mental power instead of remaining like a lowly animal."
Summary is, Jesu was teaching people to elevate their minds and he was elaborating upon the very ten directives of Moses/Musa hinting towards their nature and reason for why being in place even though Jesu never delved that far into their origin. This is because he was not to spoil the mental challenge yet at that time. But the secret is that the ten directives of Moses/Musa deals with the human instinct and what leads towards their doings so Jesu suggested hints which further help to stop the behavior. One commandment says "do not defeat/dominate" (mistranslated "do not kill"), but Jesu said "do not even become angry with your brother", so Jesu offered a pre-stage/remedy before the instinct leads one to wish to defeat. Anyone even mediocre in intelligence and thinking ability today, would realize that what affects a man to become angry is bodily reactions to stimuli and since the human is an animal of kind then this stems from the instinct itself. It is all related to human psychology. With the light of science we can delve deeper into the philosophical background to it all and we can actually understand better today. What Jesu was basically teaching is to find ways of not becoming angry with your brother (anyone around you), it includes reflecting upon your thinking patterns with your mind. Anyway, what Jesu was hinting towards was the underlying drive which leads a man to seek to dominate/defeat and it is very instinctive in origin. If someone breaks your foolish pride then you (may) feel angry, for example, and often you may find that if this happens you may fight them with words or deed in order to defeat them, for no meaningful purpose either to add. In such cases you will be blind to thinking logically and may also miss important parameters the "adversary" is trying to get across to you. Fundamentally you wish to harm them and in extreme cases you may wish them dead, even if you do not come to that (because you have some restraints). This is when the body takes the upper hand over your mind. What we teach here is to maintain a firm handling of the body at all times, actively not trying to let it go with what it desires and actively seeking to maintain and if temporarily lost control seek to as quickly as possible retain control. Maintaining and retaining control becomes easier with mental training and actually at all times resisting everything listed in the old 'Ten Directives'. When your mind growth mentally, you will notice that you have more possibilities to regain control in scenarios where your body and mind is exposed to intense provocation. It is natural to lose control, but it is supernatural to regain control without it escalating and doing what is not predictable behavior is superhuman, and it is supernatural to not even become affected by provocation. What we teach here is to not even let yourself be "natural" but accept that you are a form of supernatural lifeform and develop that mental power instead of remaining like a lowly animal.
And rest assured, I am NEVER going to expect any money from anyone for offering these teachings. Excuse me that this forum news posting became also like a teaching, but at least you will learn precious knowledge without even leaving this page.
11/24/2017 Compressed the number of forum sections and removed redundant ones in order to make the forum more accessible and easier to navigate. No threads were deleted but merely moved under new headings.
12/23/2017 Combined the "What is being I am who I am" and "The nature of the universe and beyond" into one board. You will find the old posts from the latter one in the other. No post was deleted. Reason was because both categories go pretty much hand in hand and speak of the same thing basically.
Furthermore, the "Discussion of Faith Systems" board was moved into another category which is history and its implications.
Last Edit: Dec 23, 2017 12:57:42 GMT by Immanuel: Added more information
In case you have not noticed, I am frequently updating the Testament/Manifestation file nowadays and making some progress deciphering it. I am content to say I am picking up some speed again after some stalling time.
Beyond that I am not writing many new posts at the forum, but I do respond to posts that people make. What I (and Elahem indirectly) wish to teach you takes shape through the interpretation of what the old Semitic language says, for the time being. I may return to active teaching once I finish the project or as I somehow gain inspiration to write something new. The way I see it currently, all you need to know that is known at this time can be found in already existing posts or within the Testament/Manifestation scripture.
- Changed the forum default theme to be more gentle to the eye, the white light is exhausting the eye
Also changed the background color of the project file (for those with access to it), I recommend people to install Google Docs Dark Mode if you like me are sensitive to the monitor white light, I cannot stand sitting for prolonged hours staring at the monitor while working. It is less exhausting for the eye if the background is dark and text is light.
Aviel: Immanuel, Thank You very much for the work you do. Thank you for your insight, IM SINCERELY THANKFUL! There are people to whom your work is very important, and I can and will raise my hand for being one of them.
Jul 31, 2017 10:29:55 GMT
Immanuel: You are welcome, hansolo. It is for your sake that I am doing it primarily, but I am also a bit curious myself regarding the underlying lore. Persistent research and critical thinking has led to a great breakthrough.
Aug 13, 2017 19:08:46 GMT
nullandvoid: Wondering what a future with only non-dualistic people would be like?
Jan 28, 2018 14:53:12 GMT
Immanuel: Symbiotic existence, like a permanent telepathic coexistence. This is why humans are placed to learn to coexist on Earth on a very basic level and even with marriages, in order to be ready for a greater union by developing from there.
Feb 2, 2018 21:32:19 GMT
Immanuel: Our challenge here is Homo sapiens' self-preservation and other instinctive drives/motivations, which makes people think in "dualistic" ways.
Feb 2, 2018 21:34:12 GMT
hftwo: Immanuel do you believe that You will be able to do "Godly" things during this Immanuel-life-time? Because I do think if Jesus said that you will. e able to do these things and even greater! But logically thinking to get Godlike powers...
Oct 4, 2018 10:48:45 GMT
hftwo: ... one needs to become perfect /totally complete as a being. I do not count on my self, because it seems like the sex commandment is something that I usually break.
Oct 4, 2018 10:49:35 GMT
hftwo: How can I count myself as a perfect being if I cannot control the reproduction urges of the body?
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:10 GMT
hftwo: But at the same time, I do not want to be a human any longer, I do not want to be weak any longer.
Oct 4, 2018 10:50:49 GMT
cerulean: learning to live each day as the last i.e giving our best at each moment, not allowing for sloppiness in thinking and doing, not even for a second. Not allowing the postponing of what should be done
Oct 10, 2018 18:51:29 GMT
cerulean: We should learn to do that, and then all other things will be easier. By adopting a way of being instead of just focusing on abolishing those apparent wrong acts such as masturbation.
Oct 10, 2018 18:55:42 GMT
Immanuel: I might seem to prescribe impossible goals, but I also say that we do reside in a creature which is an animal and you will not be rid of its functionality without killing it and the creature as an animal has needs which are inevitable.
Nov 4, 2018 21:01:04 GMT
Immanuel: What the "Ten Commandments" counteract is the enslaving effects of the body. Furthermore, I am still not convinced about what the seventh command says as it probably says "unnecessary sex". Jesus gave a recommendation of not even looking upon a woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:05:37 GMT
Immanuel: Jesus' word of not even looking upon a woman (or man) suits that of no unnecessary sex. It is about that sexual trigger in the mind which is spoke of. Pay attention to that translators usually add "other" within parentheses, meaning it is about ANY woman.
Nov 4, 2018 21:11:06 GMT
Immanuel: "but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28 NASB
Nov 4, 2018 21:17:55 GMT
cerulean: Right, so one should probably adopt an entire way of living, instead of focusing on one thing, because many other things can lead to that one thing you are trying to keep away from.
Nov 5, 2018 12:44:38 GMT
Immanuel: Yes, this is about a way of living rather than a dumb set of rules. People have incorrectly referred to the so-called 'Ten Commandments' as laws to uphold for the sake of worship, but this is wrong. They are guidelines in order to maintain a conscious lif
Nov 5, 2018 18:38:31 GMT
Immanuel: Unfortunately the first lines of the Commandments were distorted so badly it looks like they sanction religious worship. While they seem to promote relinquishing the mind, the truth is they that say the straight opposite.
Nov 5, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
hftwo: Just "Be" is that simple
Jan 11, 2019 12:54:40 GMT
hftwo: You have everything You need, You have Yourself, or is it?
Jan 11, 2019 12:55:25 GMT