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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 16, 2016 12:54:07 GMT
Those who divide their way of life and become Religism, you are not with them in anything. (6.159) atheisms.org/
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Post by Immanuel on May 16, 2016 17:02:05 GMT
Yes I agree, this is basically what this forum is trying to convey. Everything is about a concept and a way of living in God's unity that obviously is One, you live on a platform which is God. Either that or you choose this world including Satan.
I suppose you are hinting towards this site and "dividing into sects" which may be your personal perception likely shared by quite some Muslims. The forum is mainly intended to help people "to be", a way of become aware of Being and is a self-help rather than a (religious) doctrine.
All the information is provided by our great Rabb/God of which we are created in a particular image.
Be well Amenuel
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 16, 2016 18:52:01 GMT
There is nothing new in this...
You can read Rumi or joined the Sufi and reach tawba an-nasooha (enlightenment)...
Truth cannot be seen so long as there is the slightest taint of desire... impossible.
The Perfect Man as the manifestation of the Divine
Adam is the astrolabe of the attributes of Divine Sublimity, the nature of Adam is the theatre for His revelations.
Since in eternity it was the will and decree of God, the Forgiver, to reveal and manifest Himself.
This involves opposition, for nothing can be shown without an opposite, and there was no opposite to that incomparable King.
Therefore He made a viceroy, one having a heart, in order that he might be a mirror for His sovereignty.
So he endowed him with infinite purity (spiritual light), and then set up an opposite against him in the form of darkness.
Know that the world of created beings is like pure and limpid water in which the attributes of the Almighty are shining.
Their knowledge, their justice and their clemency are like a star of heaven reflected in running water.
Kings are the theatre for the manifestation of God’s kingship, the Wise are the mirrors for God’s wisdom.
The beautiful are the mirror of His beauty, love for them is the reflection of the desire of which He is the real object.
This cheek and mole go back to their Source, how should a phantom stay in the water forever?
The whole sum of pictured forms (phenomena) is mere reflection in the water of the river.
When you rub your eye, you will perceive that all of them are really He.
This resembles the other reflections, but in reality it is not a reflection, it is the appearance of God in the likeness of a reflection.
How should the qibla (object of worship), namely, the Divine Unity, be two? How should earth be worshipped by the angels?
The Khwāja is the God-man of whom God said You did not throw when you threw:
To see him is to see the Creator. To serve him is to serve God. To see this window is to see the Daylight.
Listen, let your inner eye and your heart pass beyond (transcend) the bodily clay! This is One Qibla (object of worship):
Do not see two qiblas. Do not say ‘two.’ Do not know ‘two.’ And do not call ‘two.’
Consider the slave to be effaced in his master.
~Rumi
Peace.
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Post by Immanuel on May 17, 2016 7:30:37 GMT
Hello,
There is more or less nothing new no, but the information that you quote to me is not correct in its entirety. This does not matter whether you are right or wrong though as long as you acknowledge that this world including your body was made as a corrupting contradiction and is a type of test environment.
Some of the information on this page is relatively new because there was a manifestation of Rabb supposed to complement what was already present. For the witted person the whole story was already accessible before, but only delivered in parables. What I am presenting on the forum is information mostly parable-free and "black on white". This is why Quran is called by that word because the word means 'Manifestation' or even a record. For hints to this, look in an ancient lexicon on Qaaf-Ra-Alif (ق ر ا) and the "odd definitions" (those that the malicious clerics did not add). Its real derivative root is ق ر ر though, which also reveals obvious information concerning this. The Quran you may know however is not even close to what it really makes one know. The below is a summary of what Quran teaches:
Man is an "angel-in-training" and the "seed" is placed in a hostile environment to develop. Man's "seed" is a part of Rabb albeit initially undeveloped, i.e. not yet a person and if the "seed" grows to completion in this world then the person will ascend and detached from it like when a fruit is picked from a tree and this is often called 'the Salvation'. The main obstacle is the world itself and primarily Satan which is manifest in man's body's and in the light of science called instinct. "Separate the Spirit from the Flesh" said Eysua and this is a good recommendation. "Cut off from its instinctive drive" I say with a more clarifying choice of words.
Be well Amenuel
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 21, 2016 4:35:15 GMT
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 21, 2016 4:37:40 GMT
My GOD is SPIRITUAL LOGIC...
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 21, 2016 4:48:33 GMT
Apart from the TRUTH, what is there except ERROR? (10.32) See? Impossible... garbage in, garbage out... and the test for truth will always be "LOGIC".... free from mental slavery... Other than that are "lies".. because... God = Truth Satan = Lies
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 21, 2016 4:54:58 GMT
This is the reasoning We gave to Abraham. (6.83)
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Post by Muslim Atheism on May 23, 2016 18:43:53 GMT
Could this be the manifestation of God?
Allah knows the best...
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Post by Matheist on Jun 26, 2016 10:04:55 GMT
Everything is about a concept and a way of living in God's unity that obviously is One, you live on a platform which is God. Either that or you choose this world including Satan. I suppose you are hinting towards this site and "dividing into sects" which may be your personal perception likely shared by quite some Muslims. The forum is mainly intended to help people "to be", a way of become aware of Being and is a self-help rather than a (religious) doctrine. 50:30 The Day We say to Hell: "Are you full", and it says: "I can take more." Could never happen and I have been banned three times from the free-minds forum. Muslims Matheism Fritz Will try next time, they cannot stop the truth and logical soundness. And the truth, all the things happened in life is for the believers to reach enlightenment, tawba an-nasooha. That's the objective from the Quran. Why don't you join forum.quranism.org and build a community there? It has a blogging system for each member to write their idea. Peace.
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Post by Matheist on Jun 26, 2016 10:16:52 GMT
So are they waiting until the Hour comes to them suddenly? For its conditions have already been met. [Quran 47:18]
There is not a town before the Day of Resurrection that We will not destroy it, or punish it with a severe punishment. This has been written in the record. [Quran 17:58]
No one can change it, and that is the end for the mankind.
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Post by Immanuel on Jun 27, 2016 13:40:04 GMT
Ah yes, you are Muslims. I felt it was a shame you were banned from Free-Minds. Certain days I am uncertain whether they will ban me too because this realization I have done is extremely incompatible with the sect Islam and because I challenge the sectarian interpretation of Quran they use the forum rules against me although so far it has just been threats from the admins.
Be well Amenuel
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Post by Matheist on Jun 27, 2016 22:09:49 GMT
They have no monopoly on truth, no one can. We are responsible for its interpretation. (75.19) And if all the trees on the earth were made into pens, and the ocean were supplied by seven more oceans, the words of God would not run out. God is Noble, Wise. (31.27) Everything from is about... We did not leave anything out of the record.(6.38) and that's why.. He made all gods one god. (38.5) Peace.
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Post by Immanuel on Jun 28, 2016 13:00:45 GMT
You are right in saying all the gods are one god, if to use the lackluster "god" word. Everything is a unity and we are in it; deaf, dumb and blind (not able to perceive it) or not.
The common sectarian version is not monotheism but dualism if one is exact as they make a separation between the god (Rabb) and creation. It is strange they cannot see this themselves. Creation is just a manifestation of the god (Rabb) and like Jesus said "I am in the Father and the Father in me" we can say we exist in Rabb through the phenomenon called "allah a'had", but only if we renounce the world as it was imposed as a contradiction on man. It is just to choose, identity with Rabb or Satan ("drive to enter firmly by root Shiin-Tay-Nun), who should one choose? The choice ought to be pretty simple. Satan offers us something that you lose pretty quickly. What Rabb offers is permanent.
Satan is just a creation of Rabb, Rabb is behind Satan and it was just a play in order to filter out the unfertilized seeds or choke the "undeveloped plants due to the unwise garderners who did not remove the thistles (parable) means of a corrupting and consuming environment. Rabb does not condemn anyone, people will condemn themselves.
Be well Amenuel
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Post by Matheist on Jul 25, 2016 2:37:57 GMT
ONE COMMUNITY TO UNITE THEM ALL We have made you a justly balanced community so that you may be witness over the people, and that the messenger (Quran) may be witness over you. And We did not make the focal point that you became on except to know who follows the messenger (soundness) from those who will turn on their heels (bigotry and fallacies). It was a great thing indeed except for those whom God had guided; God was not to waste your belief. God is Merciful and Compassionate over the people. (Quran 2.143)
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